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Axialbloom

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RazRei wrote...

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I think the real problem is that it doesn't arc....It's supposed to be a smaller version of the Arc Projector from ME2....I might be able to deal with a lower damage if it was spreading from enemy to enemy...


Yeah but the description doesn't lie.  It doesn't say it jumps from one to another, all it says is that its based on the ARC Projector and nothing more.



It also lists its stats as the best in the game :P

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Axialbloom wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Frankie Muniz wrote...

I think the real problem is that it doesn't arc....It's supposed to be a smaller version of the Arc Projector from ME2....I might be able to deal with a lower damage if it was spreading from enemy to enemy...


Yeah but the description doesn't lie.  It doesn't say it jumps from one to another, all it says is that its based on the ARC Projector and nothing more.



It also lists its stats as the best in the game :P


And BOOM, that's a lie.  I got mine up to level X earlier this week so I cn forget it.

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Not going to say it good(because it's garbage) but the damage stat is based on charged shots and the ROF stat is based on single shots. That's why it seems to be so great in the stat bars.

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I used it and even its charged shot is weaker than a regular carnifex shot, it is a terrible and useless weapon. That being said, it seemed that it absolutely destroys shields, which makes sense, but its still useless compared to other stronger guns.

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KarmaZ wrote...

Arc Pistol is worst?!?

HAVE YOU EVER USED THE INCISOR?

It's actually pretty good on stability-specced Turians

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But it looks awesome when those little things on the top dance about as you charge it!

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The stats are deceiving for sure, I'm not convinced the charged shot is more powerful than Carnifex either

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I had an idea about how to fix this gun the other night. Leave all its stats alone, and simply give it a Disruptor Ammo effect that has a 100% chance of shocking non-shielded enemies and does a lot more damage against shields and synthetics (even let it stack with Disruptor Ammo for uber shield and synthetic damage). Voila, the gun is worth its rare slot all of a sudden, and more importantly it's actually interesting.

Modifié par Atheosis, 06 avril 2012 - 05:25 .


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Cloaking_Thane wrote...

The stats are deceiving for sure, I'm not convinced the charged shot is more powerful than Carnifex either


Charged shot does less than the Carnifex.

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Axialbloom wrote...

Charged shot does less than the Carnifex.


And the regular shots do less damage than a pea flinged by a fork.

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AndanteInBlue wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

Charged shot does less than the Carnifex.


And the regular shots do less damage than a pea flinged by a fork.


It took me about 10 times as long to take a pyro's shields down with my Arc 8, than when I use my Carnifix 5.

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KarmaZ wrote...

Arc Pistol is worst?!?

HAVE YOU EVER USED THE INCISOR?


But the incisor is so much fun to use:devil:

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Axialbloom wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

The stats are deceiving for sure, I'm not convinced the charged shot is more powerful than Carnifex either


Charged shot does less than the Carnifex.


AND it's NOT hitscan. Means you will miss much more. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

The stats are deceiving for sure, I'm not convinced the charged shot is more powerful than Carnifex either


Charged shot does less than the Carnifex.


AND it's NOT hitscan. Means you will miss much more. 


I have played a few gold games with you.

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Still sucks.

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If you're interested in Melee, for whatever reason, it's the best Melee firearm in the game- equipping it with the Pistol Stunner will make your Melee attacks deadlier than a Shotgun with a Blade attachment.

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 I have.. Mixed feelings about the Arc Pistol. I mean its cool that you can go from rapid fire, to charged super shot, but even so it doesn't seem worth it. A Predator does way more rapid fire damage, and a Carnifex/Paladin can headshot 3-4 enemies in the time it takes the Arc Pistol to charge.

And no. The worst gun in the game is the Incisor. Also it pisses me off how charging in cover makes you peek out. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 08 avril 2012 - 07:06 .


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On paper the Arc Pistol should be an amazing weapon: its normal fire is as fast and powerful as the Predator, making it ideal for CQC against low-level mobs, and yet it has a charged shot that can deal magnum-level damage for use against armored and high-HP targets (It is possible to perform one-shot headshot kills with a charged Arc Pistol). And the Arc Pistol is balanced to take account of the latter fact, thus it is one of the heavier of the pistols as a result. 

In practice however the Arc Pistol is gimped because in order to release magnum-level damage, it has to be charged. Unfortunately, charging kills the Arc Pistol's rate of fire significantly, and both MP and SP gameplay show that the most effective weapons have a good combination of RoF and attack damage. The Widow and Claymore have slow RoF but compensate by dealing incredible damage that can kill opponents in a single shot, and the Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower deal incredible damage when charged. The charged Arc Pistol only deals damage similar to a Carnifex, and yet the severe reduction to RoF means that it isn't as powerful as the Carnifex in practical combat since the latter weapon has a faster RoF - and the Carnifex already  2-3 bodyshots to kill even Husks. And since the Arc Pistol's standard attack is middling at best, that means that the Arc Pistol has all the weaknesses of the "magnum" Heavy Pistols with none of the advantages. At  this point it's more effective to simply stick to the standard attack for the RoF, but if you're going for pure RoF the Predator or Phalanx would  be more preferable choices due to being much lighter. Along with the fact that its weight makes it difficult to use for power users and you have a Heavy Pistol that doesn't really have much to offer on the field. 

The only way to make the Arc Pistol viable is either to decrease its encumbrance (i.e. make it lighter), or drastically increase the damage of the Charged Shot - say, +40 to +50% more damage -  to compensate for the RoF decrease and make it viable as a legitimate combat option.  

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Still sucks.

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Axialbloom wrote...

The Arc Pistol actual has the best listed stats in the game.  Unfortunately it does the worst damage of any gun in the game, except maybe the odd SMG.  Is it bugged?  Even the charged shot does less than a bullet from the Revenant.


I don't know what you're doing wrong with your pistol, but I can rape most enemies in a heartbeat with an arc pistol. The damage isn't a misprint or bug, when it's fully charged and aimed at the head, it has the hitting power of a sniper rifle. ZAP. 

One thing you need with the gun though is a good connection, or play as host. There seems to be a travel lag issue with the shot.

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sheltomlee wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

The Arc Pistol actual has the best listed stats in the game.  Unfortunately it does the worst damage of any gun in the game, except maybe the odd SMG.  Is it bugged?  Even the charged shot does less than a bullet from the Revenant.


I don't know what you're doing wrong with your pistol, but I can rape most enemies in a heartbeat with an arc pistol. The damage isn't a misprint or bug, when it's fully charged and aimed at the head, it has the hitting power of a sniper rifle. ZAP. 

One thing you need with the gun though is a good connection, or play as host. There seems to be a travel lag issue with the shot.


You must be in bronze.  Also I prefer destroying my enemies, not sexually assaulting them...

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Would I be considered a troll for saying I like it?

Before I got Canifex and Paladin (which is **** for N7), I found I loved the Arc pistol on my Salarian Engineer at the time. It strips shields fast with mouse button bashing and could be charged to use like a sniper rifle with a scope and damage mod.

Not likely to use it ever again though.

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Bad Alchemy wrote...

Would I be considered a troll for saying I like it?

Before I got Canifex and Paladin (which is **** for N7), I found I loved the Arc pistol on my Salarian Engineer at the time. It strips shields fast with mouse button bashing and could be charged to use like a sniper rifle with a scope and damage mod.

Not likely to use it ever again though.


Its damage is that of the starting pistol :(

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Axialbloom wrote...

sheltomlee wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

The Arc Pistol actual has the best listed stats in the game.  Unfortunately it does the worst damage of any gun in the game, except maybe the odd SMG.  Is it bugged?  Even the charged shot does less than a bullet from the Revenant.


I don't know what you're doing wrong with your pistol, but I can rape most enemies in a heartbeat with an arc pistol. The damage isn't a misprint or bug, when it's fully charged and aimed at the head, it has the hitting power of a sniper rifle. ZAP. 

One thing you need with the gun though is a good connection, or play as host. There seems to be a travel lag issue with the shot.


You must be in bronze.  Also I prefer destroying my enemies, not sexually assaulting them...


Don't be condescending. Geth don't condescend. 

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sheltomlee wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

sheltomlee wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

The Arc Pistol actual has the best listed stats in the game.  Unfortunately it does the worst damage of any gun in the game, except maybe the odd SMG.  Is it bugged?  Even the charged shot does less than a bullet from the Revenant.


I don't know what you're doing wrong with your pistol, but I can rape most enemies in a heartbeat with an arc pistol. The damage isn't a misprint or bug, when it's fully charged and aimed at the head, it has the hitting power of a sniper rifle. ZAP. 

One thing you need with the gun though is a good connection, or play as host. There seems to be a travel lag issue with the shot.


You must be in bronze.  Also I prefer destroying my enemies, not sexually assaulting them...


Don't be condescending. Geth don't condescend. 


Then pick your words better.