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Megachaz wrote...

Not sure what this has to do with ME3's Story and Campaign.


It's clear the moderators were told to shutup for awhile, so who cares.

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Skyline45 wrote...

People, People... They already did fight and the result was the star child....


:sick:

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Megachaz wrote...

Not sure what this has to do with ME3's Story and Campaign.


Absolutely nothing.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

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Cpand671 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Cpand671 wrote...

Not against Feminism, but a question for you:

If a male and female got into a fist fight, and the male won; how would you react?


Depends on who's fighting.
Not sure what that has to do with what I said anyway.


Was just trying to gauge whether you were a females are above males hypocritical feminist, or a real feminist.


(Hint: those first ones are largely made of straw. As such, they rarely use the internet)

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Cpand671 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Cpand671 wrote...

Not against Feminism, but a question for you:

If a male and female got into a fist fight, and the male won; how would you react?


Depends on who's fighting.
Not sure what that has to do with what I said anyway.


Was just trying to gauge whether you were a females are above males hypocritical feminist, or a real feminist.


If you must know I believe in equality in all things and position by merit, I don't consider men lesser or anything.

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CD Projekt RED is a wonderful company... easily on par with the likes of Valve.

That said, I'll tried to avoid judging companies simply based on the games produced.

Look at Bioware: They made games like Baldur's Gate 2 to Mass Effect 2 before the decline.

CDPR has made two games. The fanatical loyalty of gamers will only face disappointment.ultimately if we keep judging companies as the "best evur" just because they're on a roll now.

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The Witcher Series is more about following a GREAT story as opposed to "creating your own". Yeah there are choices, and some of them are big, but you are still somewhat restricted by the original narrative. WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING. Great Story, Great Gameplay (In 2), Cool Characters.

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The Angry One wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

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Impossible outcome, FemShep would always beat ManShep. :bandit:

classic feminist line :D


Not really. FemShep is a badass, whereas default ManShep is modelled off an effete Dutch male model, who probably has a glass jaw.

I finally understand why you don't "like" TW2 (eventho you never played it); it's because you don't like the fact that the main character is a man. Well here is the reality: CD Project will NEVER cater to any group of people to get higher sales, they'll only add such a thing to their games IF and only IF the writers demands it.

Unlike ME, where fans have ruined the IP, either by redicilous demands of fanservice or something else.

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Deep in my heart there's hope someday CD Projeckt will dissapoint their fans just to they learn NOT to idolize companies.

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azerSheppard wrote...

I finally understand why you don't "like" TW2 (eventho you never played it); it's because you don't like the fact that the main character is a man. Well here is the reality: CD Project will NEVER cater to any group of people to get higher sales, they'll only add such a thing to their games IF and only IF the writers demands it.

Unlike ME, where fans have ruined the IP, either by redicilous demands of fanservice or something else.


I'm sure you think this a great revelation, even though I already said that's why I don't play it (CRPG with a set character? No ty).
Also, fanservice? Really? Is CDPR great for listening to fans or for not listening to them? Pick one.

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Actinguy1 wrote...

Ok, I'll bite. Without spoilers, tell me about the basic gameplay. Recruiting squadmates? "Anyone can die" mentality? Choices carrying over between games? Legitimate questions, I know little to nothing about the The Witcher games.


The Witcher 1

www.youtube.com/watch


The Witcher 2

www.youtube.com/watch (Not the Enhanced edition with added HOURS of gameplay and other features ^.^)

Sadly there are no companions, Not everyone can die, but yes important people can have an impact on the world if they die/live, Yes choices carry over into the games (PC Only cuz I dont think they made the first one for 360, could be wrong though)

There is no good/evil option. Everything is risky when making choices. Which to me makes it a better story.

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The Angry One wrote...

Skyline45 wrote...

It is when the arguments that are used are relating to a story that is fictional.


I merely pointed out that TW1's sex cards were juvenile.. and they are.


yeah as if girls were 'pokemon' "Gotta catch sex them all"

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Skyline45 wrote...

Actinguy1 wrote...

Ok, I'll bite. Without spoilers, tell me about the basic gameplay. Recruiting squadmates? "Anyone can die" mentality? Choices carrying over between games? Legitimate questions, I know little to nothing about the The Witcher games.


The Witcher 1

www.youtube.com/watch


The Witcher 2

www.youtube.com/watch (Not the Enhanced edition with added HOURS of gameplay and other features ^.^)

Sadly there are no companions, Not everyone can die, but yes important people can have an impact on the world if they die/live, Yes choices carry over into the games (PC Only cuz I dont think they made the first one for 360, could be wrong though)

There is no good/evil option. Everything is risky when making choices. Which to me makes it a better story.


Also and a big deal breaker for me. You play a specific and established character Geralt. You can't change his appearance or gender. I very rarely play a male in my RPGs. It's just my taste.

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garf wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Skyline45 wrote...

It is when the arguments that are used are relating to a story that is fictional.


I merely pointed out that TW1's sex cards were juvenile.. and they are.


yeah as if girls were 'pokemon' "Gotta catch sex them all"


Sounds like my kind of game.

OH YEAH

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The Angry One wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

I finally understand why you don't "like" TW2 (eventho you never played it); it's because you don't like the fact that the main character is a man. Well here is the reality: CD Project will NEVER cater to any group of people to get higher sales, they'll only add such a thing to their games IF and only IF the writers demands it.

Unlike ME, where fans have ruined the IP, either by redicilous demands of fanservice or something else.


I'm sure you think this a great revelation, even though I already said that's why I don't play it (CRPG with a set character? No ty).
Also, fanservice? Really? Is CDPR great for listening to fans or for not listening to them? Pick one.

They don't LISTEN to fans, as that would lead to disaster. Each fan wants something different, so you end up with more rage each time. Check out Ken Levine's reaction to ME3 ending change for more info.

Now CD projekt will in case of failure; admit it, and adapt to improve. They won't do it becuase fans DEMAND it; but because they feel that they cheated their customers/ And thats also the reason why the give out free dlc, they believe their customers are "entitled"  to the full product, including expansions and dlc (will be hard on 360 as MS demands cash for dlc).

Why is Garrus and Tali in ME2? Fans demanded it. Why is there SS in ME3? Fans demanded it, why is there MP? Some fans demanded it, and BW attempted to cater to GOW/COD crowd etc...

CD Projekts is great to their fans, and they'll never pull an "artisitc integrity" card on anyone. Certainly not dismiss their fanbase as entitled brats.

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garf wrote...

Skyline45 wrote...

Actinguy1 wrote...

Ok, I'll bite. Without spoilers, tell me about the basic gameplay. Recruiting squadmates? "Anyone can die" mentality? Choices carrying over between games? Legitimate questions, I know little to nothing about the The Witcher games.


The Witcher 1

www.youtube.com/watch


The Witcher 2

www.youtube.com/watch (Not the Enhanced edition with added HOURS of gameplay and other features ^.^)

Sadly there are no companions, Not everyone can die, but yes important people can have an impact on the world if they die/live, Yes choices carry over into the games (PC Only cuz I dont think they made the first one for 360, could be wrong though)

There is no good/evil option. Everything is risky when making choices. Which to me makes it a better story.


Also and a big deal breaker for me. You play a specific and established character Geralt. You can't change his appearance or gender. I very rarely play a male in my RPGs. It's just my taste.


^You've never played. You know how I know. You can change his hairstyle and clothes in the second one after CD Projekt got to make their own engine.

Also they have "side" compains that go along with the story in the first one where you play as different characters that you make.

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MJF JD wrote...

there is a little too much credit being given to these guys lately

Not enought if you ask me,


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azerSheppard wrote...
They don't LISTEN to fans, as that would lead to disaster. Each fan wants something different, so you end up with more rage each time. Check out Ken Levine's reaction to ME3 ending change for more info.

Now CD projekt will in case of failure; admit it, and adapt to improve. They won't do it becuase fans DEMAND it; but because they feel that they cheated their customers/ And thats also the reason why the give out free dlc, they believe their customers are "entitled"  to the full product, including expansions and dlc (will be hard on 360 as MS demands cash for dlc).

Why is Garrus and Tali in ME2? Fans demanded it. Why is there SS in ME3? Fans demanded it, why is there MP? Some fans demanded it, and BW attempted to cater to GOW/COD crowd etc...

CD Projekts is great to their fans, and they'll never pull an "artisitc integrity" card on anyone. Certainly not dismiss their fanbase as entitled brats.


What has that have to do with what I said? Where would be the harm in adding a female/customisable character?
If that counts as "fanservice" to you, don't bother responding.

Modifié par The Angry One, 06 avril 2012 - 04:39 .


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wikkedjester wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

there is a little too much credit being given to these guys lately

Not enought if you ask me,



^This

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azerSheppard wrote...
CD Projekts is great to their fans, and they'll never pull an "artisitc integrity" card on anyone. Certainly not dismiss their fanbase as entitled brats.


You'll just do that for them, eh?

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Skyline45 wrote...

garf wrote...

Skyline45 wrote...

Actinguy1 wrote...

Ok, I'll bite. Without spoilers, tell me about the basic gameplay. Recruiting squadmates? "Anyone can die" mentality? Choices carrying over between games? Legitimate questions, I know little to nothing about the The Witcher games.


The Witcher 1

www.youtube.com/watch


The Witcher 2

www.youtube.com/watch (Not the Enhanced edition with added HOURS of gameplay and other features ^.^)

Sadly there are no companions, Not everyone can die, but yes important people can have an impact on the world if they die/live, Yes choices carry over into the games (PC Only cuz I dont think they made the first one for 360, could be wrong though)

There is no good/evil option. Everything is risky when making choices. Which to me makes it a better story.


Also and a big deal breaker for me. You play a specific and established character Geralt. You can't change his appearance or gender. I very rarely play a male in my RPGs. It's just my taste.


^You've never played. You know how I know. You can change his hairstyle and clothes in the second one after CD Projekt got to make their own engine.

Also they have "side" compains that go along with the story in the first one where you play as different characters that you make.


Guess I didn't get to that point. (in one) but when I ask. "Can customize the main character? especially select gender" and the answer from reading the box or talking to the gamestore employee is 'no' then you're right I never play. your point?

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Beliyaal wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...
CD Projekts is great to their fans, and they'll never pull an "artisitc integrity" card on anyone. Certainly not dismiss their fanbase as entitled brats.


You'll just do that for them, eh?


lols

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Megachaz wrote...

Not sure what this has to do with ME3's Story and Campaign.


Absolutely nothing.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE


Ah yes "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" we have dismissed this outrage.

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I don't think I like calling them the new BioWare. Maybe the old BioWare.

The thing I like about CD Projekt is Witcher 2 is an improvement over Witcher 1. That's something that BioWare can't say anymore, their games get worse as time goes on.

Also both games have sex. CD Projekt have artistic integrity and aren't afraid of a little ****** action. BioWare on the other hand, have people take showers with clothes on.

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A little unrelated but some person on 4chan's /v/ claimed that the developers for DA 3 were thinking of using a similarly modded Aurora engine to what The Witcher uses. Its just a rumour that anyone could make up but people on /v/ who have claimed to be BW developers have been right before (Lair of the Shadow Broker, DA:O artwork and etc.)

EDIT: And iirc he had a PDF file with more leaks and rumours but I'm not gonna say cause I think video game leaks are bad and I don't want to get my account banned or anything for saying them, especially when they might not be true.

Modifié par Halberd96, 06 avril 2012 - 04:46 .