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[Aweus]

And as for CDProjekt. It happens that I know them very well. I even applied for job there but they offered me a 3-months trial (decent chance to get dropped out) so I declined to keep my current stable job. Had a friend who worked there for several months. It is a big company but bulk of what they do revolves around distribution. The Red division was an experiment of sort. They pumped lots of money into Witcher and Witcher 2. It was an all-in. They succeeded. But if you bet everything on one card you better be damn sure you have a strong hand. Bioware on the other hand... well. They have gone big. How many studios they have already now around US and Canada? How many people they hire? They feel like they are kings of the world. And EA on top of that. Going big very often disconnects you from customers. Blizzard also got disconnected after their huge WoW success.

Modifié par Aweus, 06 avril 2012 - 07:06 .

[Dridengx]

Aweus wrote...

And as for CDProjekt. It happens that I know them very well. I even applied for job there but they offered me a 3-months trial (decent chance to get dropped out) so I declined to keep my current stable job. Had a friend who worked there for several months. It is a big company but bulk of what they do revolves around distribution. The Red division was an experiment of sort. They pumped lots of money into Witcher and Witcher 2. It was an all-in. They succeeded. But if you bet everything on one card you better be damn sure you have a strong hand. Bioware on the other hand... well. They have gone big. How many studios they have already now around US and Canada? How many people they hire? They feel like they are kings of the world. And EA on top of that. Going big very often disconnects you from customers. Blizzard also got disconnected after their huge WoW success.

Thank you for your mighty insight on the minds of everyone who works at Bioware. I'm sure everyone here feels better now knowing you know how they feel. Kings of the World you say? I think Jennifer Hepler would disagree with you as would many who work at Bioware atm

Modifié par Dridengx, 06 avril 2012 - 07:10 .

[Aweus]

Dridengx wrote...

Thank you for your mighty insight on the minds of everyone who works at Bioware. I'm sure everyone here feels better now knowing you know how they feel. Kings of the World you say? I think Jennifer Hepler would disagree with you as would many who work at Bioware atm

O hai DridenTroll, didnt see you yet today. Yes, Kings of the World. When you achieve huge success you get that feeling. Bioware, Blizzard, Microsoft, Apple. Heck, I would probably feel it as well if I were at their place. It is a human thing to do. Of course they will disagree. You dont openly admit your faults like that. Especially if you have to keep PR in mind. They need to mind what they say. Same as I wont openly say what I think about you. Becouse I would get banned.

[garf]

The Angry One wrote...

Varus Praetor wrote...

I'll bet you really liked TW2's "romance" scenes then!  Apparently CD Projekt agreed with you and decided to up the anty a bit.

Personally, getting upset about the sex cards seems silly whether they're juvenile or not.  The video games are based on novels and the main character gets around...a LOT.

I never said I was upset, I called them juvenile and that's that.
I'm aware of how Geralt is in the novels. Let's just say I suspect the author has a lot of... frustrations.

Turn about is fair play I guess... I just covered my screen with rockstar.

[garf]

JustifiablyDefenestrated wrote...

garf wrote...
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Actually the nudity wouldn't bother me. in some of her scenes I WISH I had a body like Merigold's.  But .. well ... I don't think collecting souvenier cards of the males I've spread for would be an endearing feature of a game to me. Nor having a romance forced on my becuase the book says I must swoon for Geralt's manly white locks.

er.. anyway I'm not asking them to rewrite or deviate from the novels but ... Geralt just.. Doesn't do it for me as 'my' character in an RPG.

I was happier playing the nameless princess in Fable III and there were guns there too.

I guess I wasn't commenting so much on the nudity, as the specific goal that the devs. had in mind with their portrayal of nudity. They weren't trying to make Triss admirable; they weren't trying to get players to say, "Oh, I'd like to be like her!" They were trying to make Triss seem sexually attractive, right? Notice how Geralt is never actually nude? It's because guys probably don't want to, "swoon for [his] manly white locks". At least, that's the conclusion I drew. (btw, "manly white locks" might be the greatest phrase ever invented to describe Geralt-- when I read this, I snorted in a very unlady-like fashion--suffice to say, chai tea everywhere).

What I'm trying to say is that Geralt might not be your cup of tea because he was specifically designed not to be your cup of tea. He was designed to be admirable and relatable to a subset of people; specifically people who are not female. Furthermore, I think that there are not many girls who are interested in collecting trading cards of their "conquests". I may be wrong, but it just seems like something that doesn't appeal to many girls--maybe becase they are so often objectified in this manner. I have absolutely no verification for this, but the game mechanic itself seems designed for guys.

seems so... Not that I'm entirely against a litle 'misogynism' in my .. er.. 'play' but yeah. It just left me rather cold.

[Spanky Magoo]

The Angry One wrote...


What has that have to do with what I said? Where would be the harm in adding a female/customisable character?
If that counts as "fanservice" to you, don't bother responding.

I think It has to do with them telling the story of Geralt, an established character it would be weird for him to suddenly change genders.

[Seboist]

Forget CD Projekt, even a freaking fighting game developer like Arc System Works is more capable at creating a more cohesive better planned series with their Blazblue franchise which actually has a branching narrative in it's story mode with tangible choice and consequences (different opponents).

Bioware's an overhyped developer that's only capable at creating "save the world from the dragon" disney-esque plots with a childish morality system and a tacked on datesim mechanic where sexual degenerates can have creepy "romances" with overgrown children like Liara and Merrill.

[HenchxNarf]

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

CD Projekt and Valve are much better companies than BioWare, truth.

Valve is useless, tbh.

Get into PC gaming and I imagine your opinion may change. Steam is just... fantastic.

I do play PC games.

And people complain about Bioware's endings.. Valve's games don't even HAVE endings.

TF: Squad based MP Shooter, just a mod
Counterstrike: Online FPS just a mod, pretty much
L4D: A co-op shooter that has no real story
Portal: A mini-game that turned into a bigger mini game.
Half life: Cliffhanger after cliffhanger... What episode is next!?!

The only thing I can respect them for is Steam. Steam is amazing. But their games suck balls.

[Aweus]

HenchxNarf wrote...

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

CD Projekt and Valve are much better companies than BioWare, truth.

Valve is useless, tbh.

Get into PC gaming and I imagine your opinion may change. Steam is just... fantastic.

I do play PC games.

And people complain about Bioware's endings.. Valve's games don't even HAVE endings.

TF: Squad based MP Shooter, just a mod
Counterstrike: Online FPS just a mod, pretty much
L4D: A co-op shooter that has no real story
Portal: A mini-game that turned into a bigger mini game.
Half life: Cliffhanger after cliffhanger... What episode is next!?!

The only thing I can respect them for is Steam. Steam is amazing. But their games suck balls.

Not every game has to be story-driven. Gameplay is also what matters. At Bioware I was seeking the story and I couldnt care less about gameplay. When I play TF it is all about gameplay, I dont give a damn about story. Two breeds, neither is worse from the other.

[RainbowDazed]

The Witcher is not a perfect game and has some serious problems, but it has passion. And more importantly the company behind it has passion. The free DLC's, fast reaction to fan-feedback and the awesome extras (Game Guide, soundtracks etc.) they packed on Witcher Enhanced Edition have really made them stand out. I'll be buying W2 the day it's released on Xbox to show my support to them.

Personally I am not that keen on medieval rpg's or traditional monster-stuff, but Witcher has been refreshingly mature take on the genre. The protagonist lives in a heavily patriarchal twisted and world where both men and women do what they need to survive (the tone reminds me of R.E.Howard's works). The main character represents well enough the world he lives in, for example by the way he treats and uses women. I can not approve all of his actions and by today's standards he's action are totally non-PC from time to time, but that is part of the fascination in the series. After the 80's most fantasy movies have shown clean worlds with people that have white teeths and moral values of today's world. Even the new Conan sunk to that after a promising beginning. So the Witcher is a fresh and bold new take and I want to see what CD Projekt evolves into in the future. I hope we have long future together - maybe as long as I had with Bioware!

[WilliamDracul88]

The Angry One wrote...

What has that have to do with what I said? Where would be the harm in adding a female/customisable character?
If that counts as "fanservice" to you, don't bother responding.

Well, you must understand, the Witcher is based in a book saga in which the character is a male albino called Geralt of Rivia. So, in the videogame, the character is... a male albino called Geralt of Rivia.

Really, I see no point in this. It's like saying "Batman: Arkham Asylum" is bad because you can't play Batwoman. Oh, come on, you can't play William Croft in Tomb Raider neither, what's the problem with that?

If a videogame is made about a preexistent story, well, is kinda sensible that you FOLLOW the preexistent story.

Also, making both sexes available in a big RPG means two voice actors hired to record A LOT of lines, and a lot of secondary characters making changes to a lot of responses. That means money.

I personally don't like very much The Witcher 1; it was good, nothing more, and it had really good parts. But The Witcher 2 was a literal MASTERPIECE. I recommend you to play it before "permantly discarding" CDPR. It's very deep, full of important decisions, and most importantly, very satisfiying.

Sorry to disagree with you in this, is not common .

[Bann Duncan]

What I don't understand, though, is that Geralt is just about as pre-set a character as possible. Given that, how can we reconcile and established character with all of the things gamers decide to make him do in the game?

[Axolotl Shepard]

No, I made a computer with a hamster powering it. SO I'm indie, and all of you should support my releases.

[Robhuzz]

I like both BioWare (Minus the PR department and people responsible for the ending to ME3) and CDProjekt, am I a bad person now?

[Lethys1]

The Angry One wrote...

Oh, did my comments sting that much? Witcher fanboys are cute.

There is a thing called narrative.  It's the reason I didn't think every character should be romanceable by all sexes, unless the character was specifically written as a bisexual.  Things like gender, sexual preference, etc. are parts of story structure in most cases.

In Witcher, you play as a set character who has an open mind and is willing to, based on your decisions, take a number of paths in how you play.  He is a male, and the story is written specifically for him to be male.  His backstory is well established.  It wouldn't work with a female, it wouldn't be accurate to the source material, and the story would lose a lot if made to applicable to both male and female heroes.

The world itself is set up that way.  It's a more open mind to as a woman be willing to play as a man and have no problem with it instead of demanding they change their product, which was written long before video games existed as they do today.  Just as I am willing to play as a female character if a good game comes out featuring only a playable woman with no male option.

In fact, the game often ridicules sexism in how strong the women characters actually are, despite prejudice against them from male NPCs.  The most influential three characters are women in Witcher 2, Geralt not included.

So any commentary you offer is just wrong.  If you feel you should have more control over the actual creation of the character, this game isn't for you.  I promise even with an established character, your actions have impact on the story than any Bioware game ever.  

There are ten different hours of content for certain playthroughs, and you literally need to play through it twice to fully understand everyone's interests because occasionally you don't find out.

Modifié par Lethys1, 06 avril 2012 - 08:49 .

[Dridengx]

Aweus wrote...

O hai DridenTroll, didnt see you yet today. Yes, Kings of the World. When you achieve huge success you get that feeling. Bioware, Blizzard, Microsoft, Apple. Heck, I would probably feel it as well if I were at their place. It is a human thing to do. Of course they will disagree. You dont openly admit your faults like that. Especially if you have to keep PR in mind. They need to mind what they say. Same as I wont openly say what I think about you. Becouse I would get banned.

When you achieve huge success you get that feeling? So, you felt it when Retake won and got your new ending.. oh wait. nevermind. I'm going to assume in some other aspect in your life you felt this feeling although it must pale in comparison to fighting for a video game ending which you seem to spend much of your time on. Thanks again for your insight and do please continue to indulge me with inside knowledge with no creditable source

[Deflagratio]

CD Projekt isn't even that great. Certainly better than most, but highly overrated simply because they aren't "Mainstream" yet. The second they become as popular as Bioware/Bethesda/Irrational former fans will tear The Witcher and Assassins of Kings apart like they never even liked them in the first place.

[Aweus]

Dridengx wrote...

When you achieve huge success you get that feeling? So, you felt it when Retake won and got your new ending.. oh wait. nevermind. I'm going to assume in some other aspect in your life you felt this feeling although it must pale in comparison to fighting for a video game ending which you seem to spend much of your time on. Thanks again for your insight and do please continue to indulge me with inside knowledge with no creditable source

You are just trolling again. I dont even know what you are talking about. I was mentioning Bioware managers feeling as gaming demigods becouse of what they achieved in the industry. What does it have to do with what I feel regarding Retake win or fail? And what credible source? My own opinions needs credible source? Should I ask you for Wikipedia citation every time you open your mouth? Troll more.

[Lenimph]

I would love to see CD Projekt do a female protagonist.

[Zeppex]

In a couple of years after CD Projekt gets more acclaim. There name will read....
CD Projekt
A Division of EA.

[rma2110]

My brother tried to get me into The Witcher, bless him. I only had time to play through the intro before I had to go, and found that I wasn't interested enough to continue. Something about Geralt and his world didn't klick. Still, I will give the Witcher 2 a chance soon.

I am really impressed with CD Projekt though. DRM free games and free DLC, I really hope I like The Witcher 2.

Modifié par rma2110, 06 avril 2012 - 09:12 .

[HenchxNarf]

Lenimph wrote...

I would love to see CD Projekt do a female protagonist.

I would, too. Someone kick ass.

We need a good kick ass female mideval protag.

[rma2110]

I want an RPG where it is possible to fight, sneak, or talk your way out of any situation. Maybe even make money an hire an army. Every game seems to be about combat.

[Lenimph]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

I would love to see CD Projekt do a female protagonist.

I would, too. Someone kick ass.

We need a good kick ass female mideval protag.

Oh well you see I would like to see it because it would make me laugh... so hard :innocent:

[Lethys1]

Deflagratio wrote...

CD Projekt isn't even that great. Certainly better than most, but highly overrated simply because they aren't "Mainstream" yet. The second they become as popular as Bioware/Bethesda/Irrational former fans will tear The Witcher and Assassins of Kings apart like they never even liked them in the first place.

My liking of Mass Effect hinged on the impact choices from games one and two would have in game three.

My liking of Witcher and Witcher 2 is entirely because of each game individually.  Witcher 2 is just a far superior game to ME and Witcher is as well.