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[SaladinDheonqar]

CPR are certainly doing a fantastic job of building trust and loyalty by rewarding their customers instead of exploiting them. Perhaps it's too early to tell if they will reach the heights that Bioware once reached, but I look forward to spending many more hourse on TW2 after the Enhanced Edition comes out, and any future products from them. They have certainly surpassed the current Bioware regime for me.

[Phaedros]

CD Projekt IS the New Bioware: Right down to having to play a male to get the most lays...

[Lenimph]

Phaedros wrote...




CD Projekt IS the New Bioware: Right down to having to play a male to get the most lays...

All the lays... 

Unless you want to RP lesbian.  Then you might get one, and will be joked about throughtout the game for your lesbomancy. 

[HenchxNarf]

Lenimph wrote...

Phaedros wrote...




CD Projekt IS the New Bioware: Right down to having to play a male to get the most lays...

All the lays... 

Unless you want to RP lesbian.  Then you might get one, and will be joked about throughtout the game for your lesbomancy. 

Geralt is the uberplayer.

[AllThatJazz]

CDPR are good, no doubt about that. However, when they've made 14 games (not counting expansions), 8 of which are their own Intellectual Property, and a vast majority of which allow you to play your own character rather than someone else's, then they'll be the new Bioware.

Seriously, claiming they're the 'new' anything after two games is a little bit premature, I think. Unless you're saying they're the new CDPR ;P

[panzerwzh]

Leave CDProjektRed alone. I do not want they to be fallen as much as Bioware before the Witcher 3!
More importantly, I can not stand "Ghost Child" and "artistic integrity" crap in future 'witcher' games.

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

sorry double post.

Modifié par Gi-Joe-Ge, 06 avril 2012 - 09:29 .

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

CD Projekt Red is not there yet to become the new Bioware, however in my opinion there is potential that I don't see with any other company, apart of Bethesda maybe.

What CD Projekt Red need to add to their future products is free character creation and the ability to chose our character's gender though.

Modifié par Gi-Joe-Ge, 06 avril 2012 - 09:29 .

[nitefyre410]

No CDPR is CDPR and sense they under wing of the WB games the very same people who have nurtured Rocksteady with the Arkham Series... they are in good hands.

They don't need to add anything if they want to make a game that has set protagonist they can... if they want to make a "Hero of 1000 faces" they can as well.

So let them be them.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 06 avril 2012 - 09:32 .

[karlchen]

Hey,
I told it 1-2 times before.

The witcher is IMHO one of the only alternatives to me series. Never had such similar emotions to me like with the Witcher. Especially the Witcher 1 (but TW 2 too) shows, how passionate the devs where...
Of course. there are many issues in the game. But the whole result ist just genius.
Very important is to play the ENHANCED EDITION. Because there are many bugs fixed, new NPC designs, addons, and the fight-gameplay is way's better!

There are so much lovely features in the game. Potion making is logical but a bit of complex and makes a huge difference in gameplay!. You can earn money with fighting in pubs (and is embedded into a longterm quest), plants are evereywhere but you can only identify them if you talk to people with wisdom about them or reading books. The Skill design is complex but funny and you emediatly feel the difference after a level up.
You can drink to much and have quest about it and so on.

The immersion and the slipstream into the game is heavy as i never experienced before (except of ME Series)... so i can say. Just give it a try. Even if it's medieval (in case you don't like it) And its cheap. So you don't loose much money in case you don't like it. And you can resell it.. no DRM!

www.gog.com you can buy it.

Modifié par karlchen, 06 avril 2012 - 09:34 .

[golyoscsapagy]

Same CDPR which promised free witcher2 dlcs? Still waiting for those...
Well I guess they didn't have time because they were too busy extorting people who pirated their games with pay up or else letters. And yes, I own a w2 copy, it's about principle - you don't harm the people who might actually purchase your products.

Modifié par golyoscsapagy, 06 avril 2012 - 09:38 .

[nikki191]

while they do have the potential ive got a wait and see attitude with them. i am curious to see bioware moving into rts games. its what happened to westwood too. once EA took them over EA killed the rpg side and moved straight to rts games for them and when there wasnt brand loyalty anymre they killed it.

i do wonder if eventually thats biowares fate especially after the ending crisis has really shaken brand loyalty, while im not saying bioware will fold because of this, its hurt them

[Wowky]

I just want more Mass Effect or stuff like it, I don't care who makes it.

[pikey1969]

The Angry One wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...
They don't LISTEN to fans, as that would lead to disaster. Each fan wants something different, so you end up with more rage each time. Check out Ken Levine's reaction to ME3 ending change for more info.

Now CD projekt will in case of failure; admit it, and adapt to improve. They won't do it becuase fans DEMAND it; but because they feel that they cheated their customers/ And thats also the reason why the give out free dlc, they believe their customers are "entitled"  to the full product, including expansions and dlc (will be hard on 360 as MS demands cash for dlc).

Why is Garrus and Tali in ME2? Fans demanded it. Why is there SS in ME3? Fans demanded it, why is there MP? Some fans demanded it, and BW attempted to cater to GOW/COD crowd etc...

CD Projekts is great to their fans, and they'll never pull an "artisitc integrity" card on anyone. Certainly not dismiss their fanbase as entitled brats.

What has that have to do with what I said? Where would be the harm in adding a female/customisable character?
If that counts as "fanservice" to you, don't bother responding.

Geralt is an already established character. There are relationships, history, and lore set and built around him as this established character, and his gender is a great part of that as well. Just slipping in the option to 'swap genders' seems about as outstretched as turning Shaft into a woman or the catwoman into a man because of audience demand.

Fan demand/input are two seperate things. And yes, I do believe developers need to be selective, and have all the right to be selective when it comes to integrating/responding to fan feedback. Just because the way Bioware chose to be 'selective' was disagreeable and even wrong, doesn't mean the concept of being 'selective' is flawed in the first place.

ps. I agree with you about the cards, they were juvenile and something most of the mature audience cringed/laughed at. That said, don't slag the franchise just cause of that little caveat, the rest of the series, ESPECIALLY as of Witcher 2 have been absolutely fantastic.

Modifié par pikey1969, 06 avril 2012 - 09:54 .

[Spanky Magoo]

JustifiablyDefenestrated wrote...


Er.... I always thought the point of nudity in games (and other media) was to jump up and go "omg boobs!" You're supposed to notice them...  If you didn't, you kind of missed the point, right? 

As for not expecting you to notice nudity.... well, wouldn't you have felt slightly uncomfortable if the camera had panned slowly and lovingly over Geralt's nether regions?   Equal opportunity maturity, right?

This was sooo awkward to write...

I definitely see where you are coming from when you mention the fact that it's based off of a series. All I'm saying is that it'd be nice if the whole thing was a bit more inclusive.

Well I would say both men and women can appreciate a beautiful womans body real or digital while nobody really enjoys looking at a dudes "gear" lol.

[Silhouett3]

Let's see them make a Hard Sci-Fi first. Then we'll talk.

[Mister Mida]

nitefyre410 wrote...

No CDPR is CDPR and sense they under wing of the WB games the very same people who have nurtured Rocksteady with the Arkham Series... they are in good hands.

They don't need to add anything if they want to make a game that has set protagonist they can... if they want to make a "Hero of 1000 faces" they can as well.

So let them be them.

CDP Red is under nobody's wing but CDP's. They just made a deal with WB to release TW2's 360 version in the US.

And the statement of this thread is old news ever since TW2 topped ME2. That doesn't mean they can't do wrong, though. But as long as they stick to their current vision and make good games, I'll support them.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 06 avril 2012 - 10:23 .

[Patchwork]

nikki191 wrote...

while they do have the potential ive got a wait and see attitude with them. i am curious to see bioware moving into rts games. its what happened to westwood too. once EA took them over EA killed the rpg side and moved straight to rts games for them and when there wasnt brand loyalty anymre they killed it.

i do wonder if eventually thats biowares fate especially after the ending crisis has really shaken brand loyalty, while im not saying bioware will fold because of this, its hurt them

This is my prediction for Bioware. Their future games might have strong to middlin plotlines but the focus will be on combat and gaining the RTS/dudebro audience.

As for CD Project- Its two games have rave reviews, Witcher 2 especially, but if I can't play as a woman I have no interest in playing and most importantly from the company's pov buying a game.
I'm not saying The Witcher's protagonist should suddenly be playable as female I understand in many ways he's a set character. I just hope that future projects will have the choice, I'd like to see what the fuss is about.

[Aweus]

Mister Mida wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

No CDPR is CDPR and sense they under wing of the WB games the very same people who have nurtured Rocksteady with the Arkham Series... they are in good hands.

They don't need to add anything if they want to make a game that has set protagonist they can... if they want to make a "Hero of 1000 faces" they can as well.

So let them be them.

CDP Red is under nobody's wing but CDP's. They just made a deal with WB to release TW2's 360 version in the US.

And the statement of this thread is old news ever since TW2 topped ME2. That doesn't mean they can't do wrong, though. But as long as they stick to their current vision and make good games, I'll support them.

I would say that TW2 topping ME2 is a subjective opinion. You would find many who would agree and many who would disagree. ME2 had its problems, so did TW2. But saying as fact that one was better from the other is just a personal statement, not fact.

[alienatedflea]

The Angry One wrote...

Oh, did my comments sting that much? Witcher fanboys are cute.

Angry one, I never played Witcher games...but you are starting to remind me of Garrus....both of you have a stick up your @^$...Don't tell me you're going to take it out and start beating people over the head with it?

[Mister Mida]

Aweus wrote...

I would say that TW2 topping ME2 is a subjective opinion. You would find many who would agree and many who would disagree. ME2 had its problems, so did TW2. But saying as fact that one was better from the other is just a personal statement, not fact.

Gee, you think?

Everything is an opinion. I'm not gonna repeat that every time I post.

[pikey1969]

Witcher 2's enhanced edition came about like this.

Witcher 2 comes out on PC, critical acclaim, fans love it, and etc.

Fans as they always do provide critcisms and things they wished were done differently/better.

CD Project Starts working on the 360 port, starts looking at the feedback from fans and things they wished they wanted to do differently/better themselves. They decide they will add additional content on top of the 360 port they start working on... and oh yea their core-fans on the PC, they too can get all that stuff for free when they release the 360 version.

They make a new amazing cinematic trailer starring the main antagonist, and they make this gameplay trailer.

Witcher 1 may have been riddled with 'collectible' women cards, but Witcher 2 handles women/romances in a far mature manner. Also, consider the setting/time period, not exactly a setting that is open to 'forward' thinking feminist ideals. Considering that, Witcher 2 handles the topic of women in the best way it can.. and they certainly did away with some of the more immature crap from Witcher 1.

Modifié par pikey1969, 06 avril 2012 - 10:38 .

[pikey1969]

That said CDP and Bioware have VERY different tones in their story telling. CDP does and tells some pretty dark **** in their games. People that loved Bioware for what it was may not necessarily get as deeply into CDP's level of grittiness.

The only similarity really is that they both do an excellent job in integrating the concept of player-choice/consequence. And that they both show 'boobies'.

[ElofValant]

golyoscsapagy wrote...

Same CDPR which promised free witcher2 dlcs? Still waiting for those...
Well I guess they didn't have time because they were too busy extorting people who pirated their games with pay up or else letters. And yes, I own a w2 copy, it's about principle - you don't harm the people who might actually purchase your products.

Actually, if you read the patch notes & FAQ, you'll notice the DLC's they promised are included for free in the patch's they have released.. So if you download and install the game patch's, you receive the free dlc's they have promised - so either download the patch's from www.thewitcher.com and install them or make sure your steam copy is fully up-to-date (verify cache files to ensure latest game files are installed). To quote (http://www.thewitcher.com/support/#q28):

"Instead of manually downloading, all released DLCs are now included in patch.

List of DLCs: Troll Trouble, Roche Commando Jacket, Ultimate Alchemy Suit, Ultimate Magical Suit, Ultimate Swordsman Suit, Finisher Pack, Mysterious Merchant, and more."

In regards to this whole debate - in my opinion it's a moot point. They are 2 different developer's, with 2 different backgrounds and the games they produce are aimed at different target audiences. While there is going to be some over-lapping of audenices involves, this doesn't mean one is replacing the other or stepping up while the other falls away. I like both W1 & W2, but I also like a lot of BW's games - in some respects I like what each company is doing, the story and style they are taking their games, and in some respects I don't agree with their decisions, idea's, style, etc.

Some people will flock to CDP because what they offer is what they want, some people will scoff at this because the games produced so far are not to their liking - this is natural and should be expected. Heck, just read this thread and you'll see this - some are declaring CDP the new comming of godhood, some are vilifying them for aspects of the game(s) they have produced, and some are "like who cares, can't we all agree that both are good?"

Modifié par KamatsuDash, 06 avril 2012 - 12:27 .