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[pixelface]

bioware has made a lot of great games, which i am a fan of, but i don't think i can ever be a fan of a company.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dylan Dogood wrote...

TheBlackPigeon wrote...

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

Hello, Dylan.

Fans come in all shapes and sizes. Some love to gush about how the games they love are so awesome. Some love to do nothing but complain. Some love to complain because they love games, and feel they know how to make them better. Some people enjoy placing their favorite characters into uncomfortable sexual situations. No matter the preference, nearly everyone who frequents an official forum for their favorite video game can be considered a fan. And an official forum should be a place where any type of fan can put their feet up and say what they feel, whether good or bad (but always within reason).

Right now, the Bioware ME forums are filled with folks who are visibly and emotionally distraught with how the Shepard story arc ended. Expect it to be this way for quite some time. If you feel that it's going to bother you, then I humbly suggest that you simply ignore the posts concerning this, and focus your energies on the things you want to talk about, with the people that share in your interests. Or, if you feel it's getting to be too much, consider holding a private chat session elsewhere with other like minded individuals, free from the topics and attitudes that you may find distracting.

If this comes off as condescending, then I apologize. Just trying to put things into a different perspective for you. Bottom line = A Retaker isn't any less of a fan then a Pro-Ender, and vice versa. We're all fans in our own way.

Thank you for post. I just personally feel that the amount of negative criticism on the forums does not match the quality of the actual game as a whole. That´s what makes me depressed. The ending controversy have overshadowed all of the good things. Kinda.

I think that is not odd. Because once you have seen the end, it makes any decisions you made in the previous games unimportant. Anything you have decided before in ME1 and ME2 and even in ME3 has no impact on the ending. It all boils down to the basic video colors: RGB. All of them end the same. The galactic civilizations die, because of the exploding mass relays. You can find the effects of an exploding mass relay in the codex. Genocide all of the place. The reapers won, no matter what you have decided and no matter what force you brought to the end game. Also, people like me are interested in what that means for Shepard's friends and LI and how the end has an impact on their lives. Because no stellar system with a mass relay can sustain life after the end, they are pretty screwed.

So all the good things in the game gets overshadowed by the ending, And thats why people dont talk about the good things? I think I can understand that. Do you think after this ending controversy is over people will start discussing the good things?

Well, Dylan, I am one of those people who do not hate ME3 as a whole. Sure, every game has its flaws, but ME3 up until the end is pretty good. Then the end arrives. From that point on anything done before became nonsense. The only way I can enjoy replaying ME3 is to pretend that when Anderson dies, the game ends.

[Han Shot First]

XMasterPrime wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

XMasterPrime wrote...

I'm glad more of the ME3 fans who liked the game are speaking up on this forum. I feel that if we don't all Bioware fans will look as annoying as the louder vocal minority of complainers here.

Those that hate the endings are a majority.

Yes because you can prove this with polls on this forum that are already full of haters.

It isn't just this forum.

If you go to any website where Mass Effect 3 is being discussed or reviewed the tone of the discussion is nearly universally negative.  This true from polls to user reviews on sites like Amazon or Metacritic, or the comment section of ME videos on youtube, or websites like facebook or twitter. Contrast that witht he tone of the discussion following the release of Mass Effect 2. While there were people who hated that game as well, there was never any doubt that they were anything but a minority. The tone of the discussion was mostly positive.

Fans of Mass Effect 3's ending are a tiny minority.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 06 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[ArmoredD M Z]

Han Shot First wrote...

Fan of the series? Yes, except for the horrible ending.

Fan of Bioware? No. The mess that was Dragon Age 2 and the ME3 ending debacle have caused me to lose faith in the company. They can no longer be trusted to either turn out a quality product, or to listen to the fans.

If your no longer a fan of bioware, why are you still on the forums brah?

[bloodstalker1973]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Your argument is based on it being required to like everything someone does to be fan. Your argument is clearly flawed.

That was not what I was trying to say. Stupid dyslexia!

I just kinda wondered if someone dislike most of the games bioware has made for half a decade, is that person still a fan? And what is he/she doing here.

Can't speak for everyone, but this is why I've still been a fan of BW.

I got into BW back in the Baldur's Gate days. I loved Baldur's Gate, I loved KotOR, I loved Jade Empire, I loved DA:O, and I lover ME1.

After that much history with BW, I had a lot of good will built up for the company. Consistant releases of games that I thought were excellant had pretty much built up what you might call a credit account with me. I knew their track record, and I trusted them to release games I liked enough that I generally bought everything on relase dates.

Mass Effect 2 came out, and I was a little disappointed about the streamlining fo some RPG elements and the final battle. Overall I enjoued the game, but detected a few worrying trends. But , since BW had already built a reputation with me. I didn;t mind so much. It was just a couple flaws in a long history of great gaming for me.

Dragon Age 2 came out, and i was completely underwhelmed. Control over changing my characters gear and appearance was taken away from me, the game style became more flashy, reused interiors all over the place, and a story i didn;t really care much for. In short, I really did not like the game. I've never played it a second time, and I didn't buy any DLC released after I finished the first run. This was my first major dissapointment from BW, but given their track record, one game I didn't like was pretty much chalked up to being a fluke in spite of the worries I had about ME2. Any company can release a dud I said, so big deal.

During this period, BW announced that ToR would be MP, not SP. This was also extremely dissapointing since I don;t play MP game. But, again, BW had such a good record with me that I was looking to ME3 to validate my faith in the company.

ME3 came out, and the ending was completely bad for me. I know some people like it, but i didn;t. And i didn;t expect a happy ending. I just wanted an ending that I felt was in step with what ME had become. I didn;t get that. Again this is personal preference, but my feeling is that ME3 ending was just terribly executed.

At this point, a lot of good years good faith had been eroded by several recent releases. I'm not going to over react and abandon faith in a company over one single game like DA2. It takes time to erode the kind of faith i had in BW.

So now, I am here waiting for the release of the extended ending DLC. If that works to fix the problems I had with the ending as far as execution, and make sense, it will win some of that faith back. If not, well three straight disappointing releases has put me to the point where my faith and trust in BW is no longer what it once was.

So, as it stands, if the endings stand and still after DLC don;t suit my expectations, then it's probably time to just admit that maybe the company I loved for so many years is just going in a different direction than my particular tastes care for. One or two games can be overlooked when you have a long history with a company. Three straigfht bad experiences moves BW firmly from the "Buy on release" into the "Buy when and if people I know and trust their opinions tell me the game is something I would like." But because of all the great experiences I had from BW over the years, it simply took two or three bad experiences to convince me that the first bad experience might not have been a fluke.

The only reason I started posting on the forums is because I wanted to give my feedback on the endings because I really wanted to at least put my concerns somwehre the developer might see them. If the endings don;t get fixed, or even if they do, I'll just fade back off the board either way. The only difference will be how I approach BW games in the future.



TL;DR

It takes more than one or two disappointments to make me change my thinking completely on a company like BW that I had been a fan of for many years. One or even two could have been a fluke.

Anyway, that's just why I held out for so long. Can't speak for anyone else, but hopefully that will help you understand my position anyway.

[DJBare]

I never was a fan, I've always been a consumer of what I consider good entertainment, if the service fails to deliver a satisfactory product I take my business somewhere else.

The whole fan thing has been the main problem with this particular industry, it's what the gaming industry bank on, the fan purchases no matter the quality, but it's become evident that the fans tipping point has been reached.

[Dylan Dogood]

Han Shot First wrote...

XMasterPrime wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

XMasterPrime wrote...

I'm glad more of the ME3 fans who liked the game are speaking up on this forum. I feel that if we don't all Bioware fans will look as annoying as the louder vocal minority of complainers here.

Those that hate the endings are a majority.

Yes because you can prove this with polls on this forum that are already full of haters.

It isn't just this forum.

If you go to any website where Mass Effect 3 is being discussed or reviewed the tone of the discussion is nearly universally negative.  This true from polls to user reviews on sites like Amazon or Metacritic, or the comment section of ME videos on youtube, or websites like facebook or twitter. Contrast that witht he tone of the discussion following the release of Mass Effect 2. While there were people who hated that game as well, there was never any doubt that they were anything but a minority. The tone of the discussion was mostly positive.

Fans of Mass Effect 3's ending are a tiny minority.

People! Do we really need to start discussing how big one group is over the other. There are a few threads about that already you know. Don´t you think the world and Bioware has got the message. Many. People. Are. Uhappy. With. The. Ending. That is proven.

Modifié par Dylan Dogood, 06 avril 2012 - 06:29 .

[newplayer64]

You're right, I'm not a fan of Bioware anymore. Not after they butchered my playthrough after investing well over 200 hours into it and caring deeply about everything. Hell I thought ME2, story wise, was well on par with ME1. ME3 was a complete letdown on all aspects. The characters - not as deep, the cameos - bland and unoriginal, the story - epic but not nearly as the previous, the MUSIC! - lacking, THE DECISIONS!!! (the namesake of ME) - garbage. There were more cutscene decisions made in ME3 than ME1 and ME2 combined. Why is Kai Leng shielded by cutscenes 3 times and basically the entire game? Why does my Shepard get all butthurt when he is more than capable of handling everything mentally? Why does he even care about a little kid (dying)? I've ruthlessly killed tens of people out of combat, hell I butchered the indoctrinated Salarians back on Virmire, where is the remorse for that?

I will give ME3 the edge over every other game I've played from the bystander dialogues. They're the only thing extremely well done and give you both the sense of atmosphere and scale of the events unfolding around you. Hell the first time you dock you get the Turian and Asari couple and that was some of the realest lines I've heard from 2-d characters.

[OutlawTorn6806]

Yellowwizard wrote...

Let me make my standpoint perfectly clear.
Mass Effect 3 was a great game. The scenes on the Citadel were immersive. Rannoch and Tuchanka were some of the best written story arcs I've ever had the pleasure of taking part in.
Mordin's part in this game made me cry it was so poignant.

The ending, however, was disappointing and I would be willing to pay money to see it changed.
So yes, I'm a fan. Part of being a fan is applying rational, constructive criticism where applicable so that the developers and writers can learn and grow, creating a better product.

I hold by my opinion that Bioware's games get better and better with each release. The multiplayer in ME3 was done very well. The game itself flowed smoothly and was (For me) bug free at release. This is a hallmark of professionalism. The graphics were good, and the music was, as always, amazing.
The only part of this game I would change IS the ending. It stands out so jarringly against the backdrop of an otherwise seamlessly great game like a bloodstain in an art gallery.

The reason we are so very upset about the ending of this game is because we are so invested in it. If we were not fans, we simply would not care.

Well said. Though I am content with the endings and excited for the DLC, I can respect what you are saying. If the the rest of the crowd were as reasonable as you, the forums/internet would be a better place. But alas, its not, and everyone out there is making people like you look awful. Good on you for making a sound statement. 

[XMasterPrime]

Han Shot First wrote...

XMasterPrime wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

XMasterPrime wrote...

I'm glad more of the ME3 fans who liked the game are speaking up on this forum. I feel that if we don't all Bioware fans will look as annoying as the louder vocal minority of complainers here.

Those that hate the endings are a majority.

Yes because you can prove this with polls on this forum that are already full of haters.

It isn't just this forum.

If you go to any website where Mass Effect 3 is being discussed or reviewed the tone of the discussion is nearly universally negative.  This true from polls to user reviews on sites like Amazon or Metacritic, or the comment section of ME videos on youtube, or websites like facebook or twitter. Contrast that witht he tone of the discussion following the release of Mass Effect 2. While there were people who hated that game as well, there was never any doubt that they were anything but a minority. The tone of the discussion was mostly positive.

Fans of Mass Effect 3's ending are a tiny minority.

...louder vocal minority. Those user reviews, polls, and comments must be the majority right? It's not like rabbid fans are going site to site dropping 1/10 reviews all over the place. Those that enjoyed the game should be out there spending as much time browsing various forums and review sites and be as dedicated to sharing their love of the game as the fans who hate the game.

Would you believe the phrase "Do something good and a customer will tell three people at most. Do something bad and a customer will tell at least a dozen"?

Maybe no one is saying much of anything positive of the game on this forum and others because they know these sites have been taken over with "ending-haters" and know they will be harshly criticized for it. Thats why I praised Dylan for speaking his mind. I know at least a dozen players of Mass Effect 3 and some liked the ending, some disliked it, but all agree the game was at least mostly good. You can't point me to user-bombed reviews of 1/10, and expect me to take that as the voice of the majority. Even you must admit the game was at least 90% good, otherwise you wouldn't still be here.

[Ryven]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

I never once complained about a Bioware product (pre-ME3ending of course). I preordered everything that allowed preordering and have pretty much all of their games, sometimes on multiple systems.

But that changed with the end of Mass Effect 3. Now I've played some games with bad endings before and have been perfectly happy (Deus Ex, Halo 2, etc) but Ive never had as much investment with a series as I have had with Mass Effect (About 500 hours give or take a hundred) and once I hit the end of ME3 I just felt betrayed.

After the end and up until the announcement today I did let my emotions get the better of me and immediately went to bashing Bioware mainly because I felt so passionate about the game in the first place. But after a bit of reflection I am willing to see what the extended cut DLC adds before I make a judgement on calling myself a fan again. After about 10-15 years of greatness, I owe Bioware that much.

[Benny8484]

Elite Midget wrote...

Fans are the most passionate of all consumers, they will pour their money and soul to you and will spew venom when they catch you in bed with another lover. Bioware wanted the CoD fanbase at the cost of their current one, it shows in the end product.

This.  We were sold out.

[XMasterPrime]

Xydorn wrote...

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

I never once complained about a Bioware product (pre-ME3ending of course). I preordered everything that allowed preordering and have pretty much all of their games, sometimes on multiple systems.

But that changed with the end of Mass Effect 3. Now I've played some games with bad endings before and have been perfectly happy (Deus Ex, Halo 2, etc) but Ive never had as much investment with a series as I have had with Mass Effect (About 500 hours give or take a hundred) and once I hit the end of ME3 I just felt betrayed.

After the end and up until the announcement today I did let my emotions get the better of me and immediately went to bashing Bioware mainly because I felt so passionate about the game in the first place. But after a bit of reflection I am willing to see what the extended cut DLC adds before I make a judgement on calling myself a fan again. After about 10-15 years of greatness, I owe Bioware that much.

That's reasonable. Other "fans" should at least do the same.

[Bl0dbathNBeyond]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

Well, I feel like some people have reasons to be unhappy with with portions of the newer games.

On the other hand - when the RPG Codex closed down all those trolls had to go somewhere. 

[Mad-Max90]

I just re-read the whole FAQ again…I'm no longer a fan, if a representative can sound so much like a pompous ass to his "fans" then why the **** would I want to be a fan of the company he works for? If the ending was done right in the first place we wouldn't need this "clarification". after DA2 and ME2, I figured I'd give ME3 seeing as they said there adding some of the rpg elements back into the series...I ended up with ****ty auto-dialogue and fetch quests from eavesdropping on every random **** on the citadel."I'm commander Shepard, and I'm the nosiest creep on the citadel"

[Reptilian Rob]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
The word 'fan' and especially 'passionate fan' has become something to hide behind for many, a simple disguise of motives and agendas.

God that was retarded I think you gave me cancer. 

[R-F]

Just because the ending doesn't sit right with me doesn't mean I'm not a fan. I've been a fan of BW's since Kotor, and their games are the only ones I ever play more than twice (usually 4-5 runs in each game). I'll continue supporting them because I like what they create, but at the same time I'm kind of hurt with how they are handling this whole scenario. You think they'd jump at the chance to make new endings and charge us for them, we'd eat them up like crazy.

[Vaktathi]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I think the correct term is 'marriage of convenience' to many of them. They like them, support them as long as they do what they want or demand. When they do not the threats and vitriol begins, the insults and hyperbole all comes to the surface. Simply bullying tactics in order to get what they want. I find it amusing to a small degree when people use the phrase they are doing it for Bioware's sake and because they love them when in reality for most it is a case of they are only in it for themselves and what they want. The word 'fan' and especially 'passionate fan' has become something to hide behind for many, a simple disguise of motives and agendas.

You seem to be unable to post anything anymore that isn't attacking the character of those who disagree with you. Why is that?

[Dylan Dogood]

Xydorn wrote...

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

I never once complained about a Bioware product (pre-ME3ending of course). I preordered everything that allowed preordering and have pretty much all of their games, sometimes on multiple systems.

But that changed with the end of Mass Effect 3. Now I've played some games with bad endings before and have been perfectly happy (Deus Ex, Halo 2, etc) but Ive never had as much investment with a series as I have had with Mass Effect (About 500 hours give or take a hundred) and once I hit the end of ME3 I just felt betrayed.

After the end and up until the announcement today I did let my emotions get the better of me and immediately went to bashing Bioware mainly because I felt so passionate about the game in the first place. But after a bit of reflection I am willing to see what the extended cut DLC adds before I make a judgement on calling myself a fan again. After about 10-15 years of greatness, I owe Bioware that much.

Hello Friend

I´m sorry to hear that the ending ruined so much for you. Maybe i´m lucky that it did not destroy that much for me. Maybe I wouldn´t call myself a fan if it had. As it stands I can still appreciate the game as a whole. I hope the DLC fix some of the problems for you.

Modifié par Dylan Dogood, 06 avril 2012 - 07:19 .

[Dridengx]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

There is a difference between a fan and a fanboy.

good for you, you learned something. put it on your resume

Modifié par Dridengx, 06 avril 2012 - 07:21 .

[hangmans tree]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

Hello People

I feel this forum is not a place for fans but a place for people that hate.
You talk about the ending and how Bioware betrayed you. You talk about how the mother brain EA ruined Dragon age 2, and how it´s only natural that Mass effect 3 went the same route. You consider Mass Effect 2 to be only a shadow of the original Mass Effect, the only true Space Opera RPG.

Basically. I wonder how people with all the aforementioned views can still be considered fans. They haven´t liked a Bioware game for half a decade. What are you doing on these forums when the only thing you do is rant about how Bioware continuously makes worse games, with less of what you love for every game.

I understand that you have been on these forums a long time. And consider yourselves the elite. And gotten alot of friends. 

But some times a just want you to leave.

I think It´s fine to dislike an ending or a detail or two.
But apart from that shouldn´t this forum be a place for people who actually likes the games Bioware makes Today. A place for fans.

How about some fans stick with BW for 15 years or so? Then they see a significant drop in quality in recent years (in their eyes)... how would you react?

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I think the correct term is
'marriage of convenience' to many of them. They like them, support them
as long as they do what they want or demand. When they do not the
threats and vitriol begins, the insults and hyperbole all comes to the
surface. Simply bullying tactics in order to get what they want. I find
it amusing to a small degree when people use the phrase they are doing
it for Bioware's sake and because they love them when in reality for
most it is a case of they are only in it for themselves and what they
want. The word 'fan' and especially 'passionate fan' has become
something to hide behind for many, a simple disguise of motives and
agendas.

that is sure high on rhetoric... adds nothing to the discussion apart from being inflamatory.

[addiction21]

pixelface wrote...

bioware has made a lot of great games, which i am a fan of, but i don't think i can ever be a fan of a company.

Yas. So many times yes.

I like what BioWare has done and does with their games, but I am not a fan of everything they have done. Or will do.

[Dylan Dogood]

hangmans tree wrote...

How about some fans stick with BW for 15 years or so? Then they see a significant drop in quality in recent years (in their eyes)... how would you react?

This is a quote from a previous poster (bloodstalker):
"...then it's probably time to just admit that maybe the company I loved for so many years is just going in a different direction than my particular tastes care for."

This is probably how I would react. Besides 15 years is a long time, a drop in quality (in their eyes) or a different direction (in my case) is to be expected.

Modifié par Dylan Dogood, 06 avril 2012 - 07:56 .

[aberdash]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

That was not what I was trying to say. Stupid dyslexia!

I just kinda wondered if someone dislike most of the games bioware has made for half a decade, is that person still a fan? And what is he/she doing here.

You listed 3 games and said that was enough to bring in to question if they were a fan or not. I dont see how 3 titles out of 13 would be enough to do that.

You also imply that dissenting opinions should not be allowed in your last sentence so I have no idea why anyone is taking you seriously.

Modifié par aberdash, 06 avril 2012 - 08:02 .

[SteelerWayne]

dragonflight288 wrote...

I'm not a retaker. I don't expect, nor demand, anything from Bioware. Though their poor handling of this situation and the disappointing ending to Mass Effect will definitely force me to be more wary of future purchases. Mass Effect 3 will probably be my last day one purchase of a Bioware game.

I think you have to remember, most of these people, myself included are/were Bioware fans. They want these games to be good. They want Bioware to realize they made a mistake. Not just to correct it for ME3, but to use that feedback for their future ones. They aren't fighting Bioware. They are fighting FOR them and the quality products they were known for. They want the last 10+ years they loved Bioware to mean something, and not just watch them turn into another factory line developer, pumping out titles regularly with no concern of their quality.

Frankly, I agree with them. The incomplete and lazy ending strikes me as a developer that had a deadline and needed to finish it. Creating numerous endings that factored in the players decision is what the series needed, but would not have been easy, cheap, or fast to produce. The fact they took the easy road scares me about the quality of their future titles.

I respect the civility of the tone here. But unfortunately, for every fan like you and me, and others like us, who calmly and respectfully express our disappointments, there are far more vocal fans who call for boycotting everything to do with Bioware, trying to ruin their reputation along with EA (which is already shoddy at best) and then go out of their way to ruin the experience for those who haven't finished the game.

The people who go on and on how they'll never buy another game or DLC made by Bioware. Period, doesn't matter how good it may be, they just won't. And these people are very vocal, and some (not all) proceed to go out of their way to convince others they shouldn't be fans and to give up everything associated with Mass Effect or Bioware.

THIS!!!!