173 réponses à ce sujet

[Chrillze]

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

Yeah all the retakers bully anyone that doesn't agree with them

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

Turning?

What, are you new here?

[Axlesauce]

Chrillze wrote...

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

Yeah all the retakers bully anyone that doesn't agree with them

And all the pro-enders generalize everything. See?

Whatever happened to being Neutral? I think we should sound the beige alert. 

[AkiKishi]

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

There has never been a single aspect of a game that so many people have seen as a total failure before. Most people can agree that DA2 was bad, but the reasons vary. That means the lines blur depending on the thread. Here everything is focused on the craptastic endings.

[Dylan Dogood]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Fans who do nothing but praise whatever is put before them are a waste of space. Both to the company and to everyone else.

Very, very, very few fans, praise whatever is put before them. I don´t.
But the opposite is also true. Criticism from fans who hate things on principle is also worhless.
And I think the later is more common.

Modifié par Dylan Dogood, 06 avril 2012 - 10:49 .

[Farbautisonn]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

There has never been a single aspect of a game that so many people have seen as a total failure before. Most people can agree that DA2 was bad, but the reasons vary. That means the lines blur depending on the thread. Here everything is focused on the craptastic endings.

-precisely

[Rudy Lis]

Farbautisonn wrote...

-precisely

And that is the reason why I think it was done on purpose.

[He4vyMet4l]

This is what happens when you feel betrayed. When you are betrayed.

How can you consider yourself a fan if you are ok with what we got and BW attitude?

[Farbautisonn]

Rudy Lis wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

-precisely

And that is the reason why I think it was done on purpose.

Deliberately sinking their own franchise? For what?

[Estelindis]

I'm a fan of ME1, ME2 and 99% of ME3.  Not being a fan of the final 1% of ME3 doesn't invalidate my fandom of the rest.  Indeed, it is my love of the majority that has led me to not be a fan of the ending.  I hope that makes sense to you.  
:happy:

[Mysten]

Videogame Internet Forums - A Definition:

Developer's own website, pre-release:
A place for fans, old and new, to get together and discuss pre-release materials and share in each other's excitement for the impending launch of a new title.

Developer's own website, post-release:
A place for aggrieved players, fans and non-fans alike, to get together and discuss how much they hate the game, the developer, the publisher, that old woman who lives down the street and share in each other's rage and mutual usage of the "-So/Now It Sucks" tropes. A frequent stomping ground of the fabled Internet Troll.

GameFAQs:
The former's attitude and atmosphere in the latter's time frame.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Rudy Lis wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

-precisely

And that is the reason why I think it was done on purpose.

Deliberately sinking their own franchise? For what?

Because you build synthetics, they take over you, chaos prevails!
But this way you'll be disappointed and doesn't do this 

[Rudy Lis]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Deliberately sinking their own franchise? For what?

A) Not sink, scuttle. Controlled demolition. To clear path for future franchise. I think they had enough with "consequences" for now.

 They really think it is philosophical and all that. I mean speculation hidden meanings everywhere.

C) Red (no pun intended) herring a.k.a. my favorite "chaff and flares". To draw our attention to one obvious problem from lot of others. We could argue whether graphics are good or bad, same for animations or visuals, weapon system, skills, storywriting, but now most are concentrated on endings and endings only.

[Suikoden]

L00p wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

There has never been a single aspect of a game that so many people have seen as a total failure before. Most people can agree that DA2 was bad, but the reasons vary. That means the lines blur depending on the thread. Here everything is focused on the craptastic endings.

Not to mention the publicity part of the thing: even Forbes is involved. Never thought I'd see that. Never

Forbes' gaming articles are irrelevent.  Getting gaming articles from Forbes would be like getting anime articles from Sports Illustrated.  Forbes is cashing in on the internet phenomena of the ending just like every other website and podcast out there - and it's very easy right now to pick and choose websites and articles that back up your views on the matter - whatever they may be.

In a month, the whole outcry over the ending will have died out.  There will still be token ranters here and there (just like ranters in the Civilization V forums), but people in general will have accepted the fact that the ending is not being changed.  Eventually, the DLC will tie into Mass Effect 4, and all of the free publicity (good or bad) from the current ending will have introduced more new consumers into the mix which will offset any disgruntled gamers that decide to speak with their wallets.

Modifié par beutelmarkus, 06 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[Dylan Dogood]

Estelindis wrote...

I'm a fan of ME1, ME2 and 99% of ME3.  Not being a fan of the final 1% of ME3 doesn't invalidate my fandom of the rest.  Indeed, it is my love of the majority that has led me to not be a fan of the ending.  I hope that makes sense to you.  
:happy:

It does, thank you.

[andomguy666uk]

I never was what you'd call a "fan". I enjoyed the series right up until the last 10 minutes of 3 (after that it felt like i'd wasted my money). The reason i followed the mass effect series was because it was one of the few Sci-Fi RPG's that actually mostly improved game to game.

I'm never one of these people who gets a game because of the title. I get a game because of what i've seen, how it looks, and what people are saying. 90% of the time, it has led me to buying amazing games, but sadly you always get one or two huge let down that slip through... and the ending of ME3, along with the various other issues (PS3 framerate, From Ashes actually being already mostly on the disk, and the DLC was just the missing stuff that had been removed pre-launch) was sadly the biggest let down

[AkiKishi]

beutelmarkus wrote...

L00p wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

There has never been a single aspect of a game that so many people have seen as a total failure before. Most people can agree that DA2 was bad, but the reasons vary. That means the lines blur depending on the thread. Here everything is focused on the craptastic endings.

Not to mention the publicity part of the thing: even Forbes is involved. Never thought I'd see that. Never

Forbes' gaming articles are irrelevent.  Getting gaming articles from Forbes would be like getting anime articles from Sports Illustrated.  Forbes is cashing in on the internet phenomena of the ending just like every other website and podcast out there - and it's very easy right now to pick and choose websites and articles that back up your views on the matter - whatever they may be.

Forbes is respected a lot more than IGN or some other random gaming site. EA's stock plumeted in the wake of ME3 , the consequences go beyond this board, or even gaming.

[Estelindis]

Dylan Dogood wrote...

It does, thank you.

I'm glad!  You're welcome and thank you for the gracious response.  

[Suikoden]

BobSmith101 wrote...

beutelmarkus wrote...

L00p wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Rothgar49 wrote...

Is it just me or is BSN turning into a "you're either with us or against is" place?

There has never been a single aspect of a game that so many people have seen as a total failure before. Most people can agree that DA2 was bad, but the reasons vary. That means the lines blur depending on the thread. Here everything is focused on the craptastic endings.

Not to mention the publicity part of the thing: even Forbes is involved. Never thought I'd see that. Never

Forbes' gaming articles are irrelevent.  Getting gaming articles from Forbes would be like getting anime articles from Sports Illustrated.  Forbes is cashing in on the internet phenomena of the ending just like every other website and podcast out there - and it's very easy right now to pick and choose websites and articles that back up your views on the matter - whatever they may be.

Forbes is respected a lot more than IGN or some other random gaming site. EA's stock plumeted in the wake of ME3 , the consequences go beyond this board, or even gaming.

Forbes is not respected 1 iota in the realm of videogames.  I don't see gamers clamoring onto forums and saying "did you hear what Forbes gave Mass Effect 3?  ROFL! OMG!"  Forbes is catering to your opinion on the matter - which is why you side with them on this.  Were the results reversed, and Forbes spoke out against the retakers, your response would be the exact opposite.

 And EA's stock is virtually identical from the day that Mass Effect 3 was released.

Modifié par beutelmarkus, 06 avril 2012 - 11:17 .

[AkiKishi]

beutelmarkus wrote...

Forbes is not respected 1 iota in the realm of videogames.  I don't see gamers clamoring onto forums and saying "did you hear what Forbes gave Mass Effect 3?  ROFL! OMG!"  Forbes is catering to your opinion on the matter - which is why you side with them on this.  Were the results reversed, and Forbes spoke out against the retakers, your response would be the exact opposite.

 And EA's stock is virtually identical from the day that Mass Effect 3 was released.

Forbes is not interested in Mass Effect as a video game. It's viewing Mass Effect as a product and the effects as it applies to business.

Well thanks for telling what what my response would have been not sure why you think you are qualified to do that ?But thanks for the input.

Well if a 75% drop is virtually identical it is.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

Fans of ME1 + 2, Yes.