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[DavidMW]

storm_crow wrote...

MicMaky wrote...

Because the ending is just s**t no "clarification" can fix that

And you know this how? Tell me how is the hurricane season this year?  Bioware could pull off something amazing with this DLC, which is FREE btw. So lets give them a chance to fix it hmmm?

We gave them a chance when we gave them our money. They have no intention of fixing the ending, just explaining why its so awesome and makes perfect sense.

btw its free because Bioware knows how bad they screwed up, they wouldnt go to all this trouble otherwise.

[Mack0438]

Delaney wrote...

WhitenameB wrote...

1. StarChild

Still don't understand the decision to trivialize the Reapers in the last minute when they have been the the beings of incomprehensibly immense scale until that point.


2. Harbinger.

Should have been the main antagonist of ME3.
Instead we got TIM.

Seriously, what was the purpose of ME2 and all that development which seemed to lead to a fateful battle against Harbinger, if you are not going to include him in ME3 other than that token appearance.

After that ending we can also ask what was the purpose of the whole trilogy ... *sigh*

/sign

[Thornquist]

1. The way fans are treating it.

Bioware deserves more faith from their biggest fans, not a constant stream of screaming & verbal abuse.

[DnVill]

 

When do we start mourning Bioware?

[DavidMW]

JamesT91 wrote...

only just read the post giving som evague details of it. my problem is that it doesnt address the issue

the fans arent happy because the endings completely disregard the past 5 years and hundreds of hours that fans have invested in the story, adding some new cutscenes or details about an ending thast no one wanted isnt going to fix anything

Couldnt say it any better.

[Raiithe]

@storm_crow
Because clarification means to explain. therefore all they are doing according to their description is explaining or adding extra information into the ending. Extended scenes and deeper insight will not/can not equal endings being repaired.

The endings do not make sense in mass effect, earth or bioware HQ.

Teleportation does not exist in ME, therefore squad members can not get to the normandy in a battle situation fast enough for it to escape a very fast blast wave, that according to previous game content can wipe out all life in an entire system.
Nor can clarification explain how 3 endings equal the culmination of all the players actions up to that point. Regardless of how you play you will get the same 3 endings. Which in the end equal one because exploding mass relays is bad news for anyone, organic or otherwise.

They maybe able to explain some of the smaller inconsistencies, But the massive issues that do exist in the endings can only be fixed by altering the endings entirely not altering them.

As others have already said, they have addressed some issues while ignoring others entirely. Unfortunately its the parts they are ignoring that ruin the ME trilogy.

So if you wish to criticize others opinions then at least read the article to find out what people are replying to.
http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

[DavidMW]

Thornquist wrote...

1. The way fans are treating it.

Bioware deserves more faith from their biggest fans, not a constant stream of screaming & verbal abuse.

Yeah you are right, except they took our money. We gave them faith when they promised us our choices would change the ending. Check all the prerelease statements and then tell me to have faith.

[Hy0ga]

WhitenameB wrote...

1. StarChild

Still don't understand the decision to trivialize the Reapers in the last minute when they have been the the beings of incomprehensibly immense scale until that point.


2. Harbinger.

Should have been the main antagonist of ME3.
Instead we got TIM.

Seriously, what was the purpose of ME2 and all that development which seemed to lead to a fateful battle against Harbinger, if you are not going to include him in ME3 other than that token appearance.

nothing more to add

[GongStar]

Because I don't trust Bioware to do a good job.
They have already shown they are sloppy, why would it be any different now?

[Rickin10]

lalalalala-we're listening-lalalalalalalal-artistic integrity-lalalalalalalala- here,a have a cookie

[Rickin10]

Thornquist wrote...

1. The way fans are treating it.

Bioware deserves more faith from their biggest fans, not a constant stream of screaming & verbal abuse.

Amnesia?

http://social.biowar.../index/10204263 

[Bludger133]

The phrase being used is "Extended Cut", not "Director's Cut" or "People's Choice". This leads me to believe that we will basically see more of what we hated. What will be even more annoying is the inevitable claim by Bioware and the media that the "entitled" fan base just can't be pleased.

If I am right, Bioware may win the PR war, but I really can't see any good coming from this: for us, Bioware, or the minority that were happy to swallow the lousy endings. I'm pretty sure ME3 will be the last Bioware game I purchase and they will sit beside The Creative Assembly on my list of developers not to be trusted.

[snugglecakes]

still no ACTUAL ENDGAME BOSSFIGHT... having 3 mini bosses at once doesn't equal a real boss fight... thats just lazy..
I was totally expecting for there to be another last section of the level.. on the citidel killing reaper troopers working your way to the Final room of the game for a final bossfight and then an endgame cutscene.. Then i realized that was it... no more actual gameplay... THIS WAS IT... 3 Banshees ... that's yur super uber endgame bossfight for the ages? pfftt.. Also that entire part runs at like 5 frames a second and freezes up on the pitiful PS3 port but anyway yeah... So first we get a total lazy cop out endgame bossfight which isn't a true bossfight... And then we get hit with the critical mission failure known as the star child to put the final nail in the entire saga's coffin

[Fulgrim88]

Thornquist wrote...

1. The way fans are treating it.

Bioware deserves more faith from their biggest fans, not a constant stream of screaming & verbal abuse.

Two or three games back I would have been inclined to agree.

But after DA2? After SWTOR? After ME3?

Face it, all of these games gave a rats ass about their consumer base.
They all had to bow to the overlaying principle of "appealing to the masses".

Some fanservice was squeezed in as long as it didn't hamper overall sales projections, but that's about it.

"Faith" from the fans against all reason is what has carried them over these past years. People buying DA2 even though the very first trailer screamed "Final Fantasy" right at your face. Faith in ME3 promises that were broken to a point that seems almost deliberate.

I'm done having "faith" in this company. It's about time they start to deliver again

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 06 avril 2012 - 11:43 .

[FOX216BC]

 They going to extend this  ?

[Kov]

I won't "hate" it until I play it.
But I don't think I'll like anything with the Starchild in it.

[SimplePlan2k8]

Needs more Harby, then I'll be cool with it

[Vigil_N7]

Because for the majority of people in this thread they'll never be happy with anything bioware does mass effect related or specifically related to the ending.

You were probably the same people that were complaining about the ending to ME2, or how easy the suicide mission was, how the entire of ME2 was just about recruiting squad mates as opposed to the actual story, etc.

Makes me laugh looking back to all the complaints people made ME2, now people are talking about how it represented the glory days.

[Foolsfolly]

Why even do this ending DLC thing if you're not going to give the series a better send off? I mean explaining the ending, artistically speaking, is a no-no. Right?

[MattFini]

StarJar.

StarJar takes the focus away from the Reapers with five miutes to gon

[GongStar]

@Vigil_N7: I love ME2 and never wrote a single word about it in the forums. I still hate the ME3 endings. Can you please analyze me? I want to see what you can come up with Dr. Phil.

[Nassegris]

I don’t hate the news. I just don’t think any of the issues I had can be fixed with clarification – I’m still happy that Bioware is trying to appease some of its fans. Everything considered, it’s a good move on their part.

As for the poster above – I loved ME2. I’m usually not very picky with the details, I absolutely adored every part of it. I’ve never been to a single forum to ‘complain’ about a game before, and I only did so now because I was in a state of shock.

Might be they’ll fix the whole thing with clarification, but I don’t think I can put myself through the game again, knowing that it ends with the Star Brat and clarified green, blue and red. Hopefully it will make the whole thing okay for new players at least

[Fulgrim88]

Vigil_N7 wrote...
Makes me laugh looking back to all the complaints people made ME2, now people are talking about how it represented the glory days.

It's a matter of perspective.

The problems with the ending of ME2 pale in comparison to those of ME3, which makes the design of the suicide mission seem good in retrospective.

It's for the same reason why people are now willing to settle for almost anything that's not the ending we've got, even though it'll still be crap in comparison to what we could've had. It's simply how the human mind works.

Wether it's ethical to use that mechanism in order to trick your customers into docility is another question.

[Joccaren]

There is still no significant choice in the endings.

[Foolsfolly]

The only thing I remember people vocally complaining about with ME2's ending was the Human-Reaper looked like a Terminator.

That's it. Some people thought it was too easy to get through the mission without loosing anyone, but for a year after the game came out you'd still get "How do I get everyone out alive?" threads bubbling around these forums.