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[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Hi, this is my Female Shepard Anita made in ME1

Anita in ME1



Anita in ME2



Anita in ME3

[Myeth]

Wow, what setup do you have here? Looks like your shep imported beautifully - congrats!

[StarAce905-2]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Deleting the facecode did not do a better job for me than the facecode. Whatever the case, my character's face does not translate in ME3. I do still think it is part of the ME1->ME2 transition. When I imported my face from ME1, I wanted to make changes to it. I went into customization and rebuilt it (and was able to get a 100% match). Neither the facecode or deleting the facecode gets me a close match in ME3. I had to reconstruct it manually with a lot of trial and error, and it is still only a 90% match because they changed the eyes to make them wider.

If you import that save directly, it will straight away use the face code of the rebuilt face, and if you delete the face code, it will use an "approximation" of what your ME1 face was. Sadly, both are messed up in several cases.

[MICHELLE7]

Daennikus wrote...

Clarian wrote...

My Shep does not look like the same person between ME2 and ME3.

Woah!!

My condolences

Yeah, that's pretty scary...it's a shame...the ME2 Shep is beautiful...ME3...not so much. Maybe they shouldn't have messed with the character creator at the end of the trilogy or the textures(graphics...whatever is making it looked so washed out) for that matter.

[Aquilas]

My custom FemSheps look like the ME1 and ME2 default females wearing my customized hairstyle and make-up. That's it. Fail.

Modifié par Aquilas, 12 avril 2012 - 12:29 .

[Vhalkyrie]

They changed the face meshes to add more LOD points so Shepard can scowl more expressively. It looks like they also changed a few features for female Shepards so people can make more 'cute' or 'young' characters. This is the problem with my Shepard. After fixing her base bone structure, I still cannot make it look like her because they widened the eye to a more youthful appearance.

[StarAce905-2]

The bottom line is, they wanted to impress the newcomers. Cause they knew old timers would get this thing anyway.

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...

Here's some real weirdness I took the ME3 code for my recreated face, and used it in ME2. Look at the result. (The hair was actually one of the buns in the import, not the cropped, and a shade of red. Those are the only changes.)

Left is the original ME2 character, middle is the ME3 code in ME2, and right is ME3.

That is interesting.  The middle one looks like a transition morph between ME1 and ME3.  All 3 look like similar, but different people.  The eyes are different in all 3, which is the biggest difference to the look.  You could say they are sisters, but not identical triplets.  ME3 being the younger sister, which makes no sense!

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 12 avril 2012 - 12:41 .

[lillitheris]

At first glance, Anita at the top of this page looks really close…but on closer inspection, there are some differences that might hit that uncanny valley. Hard to say without gameplay footage though. How satisfied is FRANCESCO84Inn?

[StarAce905-2]

ME3 code in ME2 does give a few changes. For example, my femshep Elizabeth Shepard (on the first post under my username) gets a very ugly fat mouth shape via the ME3 code when inserted into ME2.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@Lillitheris, i'm not satisfied for my Anita, in ME3 have strange aspect, i prefer Anita in ME1, its the most beautiful

[mmm buddah23]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Hi, this is my Female Shepard Anita made in ME1

Anita in ME1



Anita in ME2



Anita in ME3

This is about how mine worked, beautiful transition. Had no problems on 360.

[mmm buddah23]

edit double post.

Modifié par mmm buddah23, 12 avril 2012 - 12:57 .

[lillitheris]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Here's some real weirdness I took the ME3 code for my recreated face, and used it in ME2. Look at the result. (The hair was actually one of the buns in the import, not the cropped, and a shade of red. Those are the only changes.)

Left is the original ME2 character, middle is the ME3 code in ME2, and right is ME3.

That is interesting.  The middle one looks like a transition morph between ME1 and ME3.  All 3 look like similar, but different people.  The eyes are different in all 3, which is the biggest difference to the look.  You could say they are sisters, but not identical triplets.  ME3 being the younger sister, which makes no sense!

Yep, got that syndrome. Although, to be fair, the Squad pic for ME3 is really flat. I've some others in the album and earlier in the thread that have more depth.

Still, though, cover the ME2 pair from the eyebrows up. She really looks the same. I could buy that transition for a facial reconstruction surgery. This whole thing is just weird

[HBC Dresden]

BioWare "updates" the old system with the claims of making everything better. The downside is that the most hardcore, longtime fans are left out because what they expect is sacrificed to make it appealing to new fans.

And ME3's character creator suffers from this as well.

[Vhalkyrie]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Hi, this is my Female Shepard Anita made in ME1

Anita in ME1



Anita in ME2



Anita in ME3

The face and jawline have been narrowed, which is a standard I've seen among the examples.  Part of the changes to the CC for female Shepards to make them look younger and 'softer'.  With better lighting and shaders, she would probably look more familiar.  If this pic was taken at the beginning of the game, it has the worst/washed out rendering in the game.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 12 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...

Yep, got that syndrome. Although, to be fair, the Squad pic for ME3 is really flat. I've some others in the album and earlier in the thread that have more depth.

Still, though, cover the ME2 pair from the eyebrows up. She really looks the same. I could buy that transition for a facial reconstruction surgery. This whole thing is just weird

I've taken a look at the album, and I know you did your best, but I still think it looks like a different person, or at least a younger version of herself.  But ME1->ME3 are not an identical twin.  The backport looks more similar to ME1, but still far different than ME3.  Backport of ME3->ME2 are also not identical twins.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 12 avril 2012 - 01:19 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

i made my screenshot in PC version, i take the screenshot for Anita in ME3 after the last ptch.

[X2three]

When the patch was released, I had a sliver of hope that the patch might at least make me able to make my Shepards look closer to how they looked in ME1 & 2. But alas the patch did sweet F.A. for me. Hell I would have been happy with the patch being able to recognise my MALE Shepards face as being, you know male but it still imports a bloody female face!!




That is my Shepard from ME2. Pretty standard stuff.

Now look at how he imports when I use a save game file saved AFTER the suicide mission. This is the same face imported before and after the patch:



Not entirely bad (The face itself) but still nothing like my Shepard except the haircut.

Ok now this is where it gets F**ked up!! Look at my import in ME3 if I chose an earlier save file from the same Shepard in ME2:



I not only do not get a male Shepard who looks nothing like my Custom, no Bioware wants to add insult to injury of having paid for this abomination software by giving me a female head FFS!!!!!

Oh and it doesn't
end there. One of my other ME1 & 2 imports where I was lazy and used
the stock standard Male Shepard, well importing his file into ME3, you
expect no probs right? No face modification, just the Male Shepard we
all know and love right??

WRONG!!



Somehow
ME3 can't even recognise Stock standard Shepard's face. As for my Femshepard, I too get that same Doe eyed brunette head everyone else has been getting.

And to think, I used to support Bioware!! Even after the whole Dragon Age 2 insult, now I am embrassed I ever supported them. No more $$$$$ from me Biofail!!

[Szuli]

I think the biggest problem is that the eyes look so different, which is very unfortunate, since the eyes are such an important part of a person's face. When you look at somebody, you usually look at their eyes first and if there's something not right there, you notice.

In ME3 the problem is not just that the eyes are shaped differently, but also that the makeup is different. In many cases there's less darkness on the upper eyelids and upper eyelashes. I don't imagine that it would be too hard for BW to fix that.

I started with ME2 and my characters didn't import correctly either. They all looked different in ME3.

Another difference is that some of the hair changed. E.g. the hair Vhalkyrie and kintaro115 used (that's one of the hair styles I used, too) is flipped now and covers more of the forehead.

lillitheris wrote...

@chevyguy87 Not only is the CC weird, but the Vancouver sequence has some of the worst lighting in the entire game. You have to get up to the Normandy before you have any idea what the character ‘really’ looks like.

I totally agree. First, the lighting in the CC is very dark, so it's hard to see how the character will really look. But you try and recreate your Shep as much as you can or make a face you like. You tweak things until you're either happy with the results or just resign to the fact that your Shep will not look the same, but at least she looks okay. Then, once you start the Vancouver sequence, your character looks quite different from how she looked in the CC. And, frankly, because of the lighting, she actually looks aweful. I wonder if they made the lighting darker because they wanted to make the mood darker?

I don't like her frowning face, so for me that change to her mesh was not worth it...

[Szuli]

@X2three: Wow, those are huge differences! I don't understand how male Shep could become female Shep on import.

[Vhalkyrie]

Szuli wrote...

I totally agree. First, the lighting in the CC is very dark, so it's hard to see how the character will really look. But you try and recreate your Shep as much as you can or make a face you like. You tweak things until you're either happy with the results or just resign to the fact that your Shep will not look the same, but at least she looks okay. Then, once you start the Vancouver sequence, your character looks quite different from how she looked in the CC. And, frankly, because of the lighting, she actually looks aweful. I wonder if they made the lighting darker because they wanted to make the mood darker?

Yes, I noticed the 'mood' effect right away.  Probably because I just saw the movie "The Machinist" recently, and this was exactly the type of film lighting effect they used.  The lighting is designed to feel washed out and that something is very wrong about Kansas.  However, it is very off putting and shocking since it is the first glimpse we get of our character in the past 2 years.  Especially for those of us who had very drastic or not even close deviations.  When I landed on the Normandy with warmer lighting, my character looked far more cherubic than she should have been.  This was not someone who head butted Krogans.  I spent a lot of time making my Shepard in ME1/2 look authorative and commanding in cutscenes the way I wanted her too.  ME3 was too cute, I couldn't take her seriously.

You know my story about my reconstruction, and she's still too dang young.  Ugh.

The hairstyle change was annoying, but I could live with that if I actually had the same face.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 12 avril 2012 - 01:56 .

[lillitheris]

I have to say, I'm really baffled how they let Vancouver go out the way it did. I have not seen a single character look good in the courtroom, for example, from anyone.

And even the most cursory playtesting would probably at least make it that far…

[Chugster]

gotta add my awesome import:



edited to add facecode pic

Modifié par Chugster, 12 avril 2012 - 03:03 .

[Skarwael]

Damn. Some of these are terrible. And one that imported the wrong gender! How the smeg did that happen?