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[Hicks233]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Hicks233 wrote...

Wow thats one of the best brosheps I've seen.  Can I get the code for that possibly? 

You certainly can. If anyone is interested there is the female code also.

Male 642.WK5.RG4.13R.MAN.EDB.SLG.39W.WK6.CR5.E3A.8
Female 141.41B.GJ6.K9I.J16.6FW.9MG.71B.DC2.417.6BB.372

[jimbo32]

Mine looked quite different as well - she seems a lot more pasty, and the makeup doesn't seem as pronounced. Or something. Kinda hard to put my finger on it I guess.

My big annoyance is the Kuwashii Visor. Once I noticed the mesh hooks are screwed up for femshep, I wasn't able to use it anymore (I used it almost exclusively in ME2, to the point where it was kinda a part of my Shepard, so it's a fairly large disappointment).

For those curious about what the hell I'm talking about, here's a pic. Note how the braket thingy that's supposed to be flush against Shep's forehead sticks out quite a bit.

Modifié par jimbo32, 06 avril 2012 - 11:51 .

[Hicks233]

jimbo32 wrote...

Mine looked quite different as well - she seems a lot more pasty, and the makeup doesn't seem as pronounced. Or something. Kinda hard to put my finger on it I guess.

My big annoyance is the Kuwashii Visor. Once I noticed the mesh hooks are screwed up for femshep, I wasn't able to use it anymore (I used it almost exclusively in ME2, to the point where it was kinda a part of my Shepard, so it's a fairly large disappointment).

For those curious about what the hell I'm talking about, here's a pic. Note how the braket thingy that's supposed to be flush against Shep's forehead sticks out quite a bit.

I know what you mean. It can be covered with certain hairstyles, there's still the underlying problem though. It was just one of those matching his/n/hers visors with Garrus things that I liked to do.

[Nykara]

I find some really strange animation glitches in ME3. Things like a full neck turn facing totally away from the person my Shep is talking to. Bad lip sync as well and strange expressions that just don't really work. I can tell the difference between the animations of 1 2 and 3. As far as that goes 3 seems to be the worst :|. Im using the Xbox 360 version.

[jimbo32]

Yes, there seems to be a lot more annoyances and bugs in ME3 than the first two. Lack of QA time, perhaps?

Modifié par jimbo32, 06 avril 2012 - 12:03 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Yes, something was changed with the face modeling.  I loved my Shepard from ME2.  She looks authoritative and age appropriate.  The face import into ME3 made her younger...and something else I can't put my finger on.  Here's the comparison.

Jhadzia Shepard ME2



Jhadzia Shepard ME3




This was with the default import. The face code was the same. The only thing I changed was her hair color because the auburn looked terrible.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 06 avril 2012 - 12:38 .

[lillitheris]

^ That's a very similar degree and type of change to what I got. I'll post some pics in the evening…

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...

^ That's a very similar degree and type of change to what I got. I'll post some pics in the evening…

My attempts to fix it have been unsuccessful and frustrating.  I thought the point of the face codes was so we could keep the same Shepard without going through this crap. 

Would is be possible to somehow just transfer the old ME2 meshes to ME3?  Are there any mods that do this?

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 06 avril 2012 - 02:42 .

[lillitheris]

Alright, as promised, here are my three. I've taken three representative scenes in each game: from left to right, it's squad screen, dialogue animation, and normal gameplay. You can poke larger images in the album

ME1:


ME2:


ME3:


The ME3 one is clearly a different 'person'.

[lillitheris]

Vhalkyrie wrote...
My attempts to fix it have been unsuccessful and frustrating.  I thought the point of the face codes was so we could keep the same Shepard without going through this crap. 

Yep, I've been unsuccessful thus far too. I'll see if @masseffect has anything to say, since there doesn't seem to be a bug tracker…

Would is be possible to somehow just transfer the old ME2 meshes to ME3?  Are there any mods that do this?

It's definitely possible, but it would probably cause problems with clipping and animations.

[Captain Arty]

I have spent A LOT of time on femshep faces.

I'll even confess to statistically analyzing the faces of masseffect2faces.com.

The bottom line. The faces in ME3 look terrible, or at least, the facial settings that looked good in ME2 now look terrible.

-- Eye heights and shapes for a given setting are different. Eyes are lower in ME3, but eyes in ME2 were typically near their lowest setting to look normal. Doing that in ME3 looks bizarre.

-- Lip shapes have changed. Lip shape 1 (7) looked good in ME2, in ME3, lip shape 8 looks better.

-- ME3 uses bleach bypass effects in a lot of scenes to make it look more gritty. The result is pastier looking faces. But one whole stop on the skin tone slider overcorrects.

-- Faces are fuller in the neck, so your lean, mean fighting femshep looks... a little soft around the edges, or at least around the chin.

-- But by far the biggest negative is the hair. Hair in ME3 looks terrible, plain and simple. The textures are awful, and the only explanation I can com up with is that they were rushed, as was the character creator in general.

[Vhalkyrie]

@lillitheris

Whoa!  That is a very noticeable difference.  Maybe Cerberus implants make us age backwards.  Your ME3 girl looks about 10 years younger.

I don't have ME1 screencaps of my girl, but she looked relatively the same when imported in ME2.  She doesn't look the same in ME3.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 12:44 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Captain Arty wrote...

-- Eye heights and shapes for a given setting are different. Eyes are lower in ME3, but eyes in ME2 were typically near their lowest setting to look normal. Doing that in ME3 looks bizarre.

-- Lip shapes have changed. Lip shape 1 (7) looked good in ME2, in ME3, lip shape 8 looks better.

I noticed these with my girl.  Her jawline has been shortened, too.  It's just been hard to tweak and fix because I have to go through the char gen, then go through the whole starting movie, then redo.  Is there a better way?

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 12:48 .

[Cazlee]

If you use the demo you can skip all the movies.

There's probably a better way, but it was the easiest for me.

Modifié par Cazlee, 07 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[lillitheris]

Captain Arty wrote...

I have spent A LOT of time on femshep faces.

I'll even confess to statistically analyzing the faces of masseffect2faces.com.

The bottom line. The faces in ME3 look terrible, or at least, the facial settings that looked good in ME2 now look terrible.

-- Eye heights and shapes for a given setting are different. Eyes are lower in ME3, but eyes in ME2 were typically near their lowest setting to look normal. Doing that in ME3 looks bizarre.

-- Lip shapes have changed. Lip shape 1 (7) looked good in ME2, in ME3, lip shape 8 looks better.

-- ME3 uses bleach bypass effects in a lot of scenes to make it look more gritty. The result is pastier looking faces. But one whole stop on the skin tone slider overcorrects.

-- Faces are fuller in the neck, so your lean, mean fighting femshep looks... a little soft around the edges, or at least around the chin.

-- But by far the biggest negative is the hair. Hair in ME3 looks terrible, plain and simple. The textures are awful, and the only explanation I can com up with is that they were rushed, as was the character creator in general.

Thanks for the details…it's great if we can quantify this better. The ‘softness’ is definitely an issue for me. As is obvious, my particular template does indeed look like a teenage version of herself, with some extra asian features thrown in.

The hair is also a big thing. As you see, I had the tight bun* (it's just impossible to actually fight with loose hair, it'll get caught immediately), and in ME3 all those styles have been considerably loosened. Even though I don't like the short curly hair as much as I did in ME2 overall, using it seems to be a slight improvement because it cuts down on the extra puffiness.


* Yes, all my ME/ME2 characters look mostly the same, different hair, eye colour, but the basic facial structure is the same for the most part…Eevy is my favourite character, though.

Modifié par lillitheris, 07 avril 2012 - 03:01 .

[sistersafetypin]

lillitheris wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

Mine doesn't look anything like my original Femshep - a lot of the features I loved for my Jinx seemed to have gone missing for ME3 and the face import didn’t work. I didn't like how she looked like she was made of clay in some of the scenes, either, but on the other hand, my new version of Jinx was quite adorable most of the time. Just not the femshep I remembered, if that makes sense?

Yes! Exactly! Or, well, I haven't gotten the new one right yet…

The old one is great. I'm not a huge fan of your new one, I must admit. I think the old one's got about twice the character.

Which texture mod are you using for 3?

LOL! Both of your sheps look almost identical to mine 

[Vhalkyrie]

Nassegris wrote...

Mine doesn't look anything like my original Femshep - a lot of the features I loved for my Jinx seemed to have gone missing for ME3 and the face import didn’t work. I didn't like how she looked like she was made of clay in some of the scenes, either, but on the other hand, my new version of Jinx was quite adorable most of the time. Just not the femshep I remembered, if that makes sense?

I missed the old short-cropped curly hair the most. I don’t like the new one at all, it’s too fluffy. I miss the way her bottom lip used to be smaller than her top lip.

I also felt it necessary to use a modded texture because the one in the game made it impossible to remake her face.

I like your original.  She says "Action Heroine".  She looks like a 'kick your butt' Halle Berry

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 02:13 .

[lillitheris]

Hmm…I thought the face import bug was more drastic, but I'll have to research to see if my problems would fall under that. It's supposed to be patched Monday or Tuesday.

[Terraforming2154]

My Shepard looks younger by about 5/6 years with much healthier hair, but I do think she looked better in ME1&2.
I don't know, it is just a weird shift that I still haven't gotten used to.

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...

Hmm…I thought the face import bug was more drastic, but I'll have to research to see if my problems would fall under that. It's supposed to be patched Monday or Tuesday.

That's what I'm wondering too. But the face codes are the same. I've been playing some more with it tonight, and Captain Arty is right. The eye height is wrong. Fixing that made a big improvement, but the jaw on my girl is still wrong.  It still looks like she got a jaw reconstruction.  Maybe she was dancing with Vega in detention - haha

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 02:10 .

[Lozark]

My Shepard also ended up looking a lot softer. I was able to overlook it for the most part, but the romance scene with her in her underwear really bothered me. Where were her muscles?

[Vhalkyrie]

Lozark wrote...

My Shepard also ended up looking a lot softer. I was able to overlook it for the most part, but the romance scene with her in her underwear really bothered me. Where were her muscles?

Well Anderson commented that you look a little softer around the middle at the beginning - haha.  I was like, really Anderson?

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...

* Yes, my characters look mostly the same, different hair, eye colour, but the basic facial structure is the same for the most part…this is my favourite version.

She does look pretty close.  Either a younger version of herself, or younger sister.  But younger than your ME1 version, which is bizarre.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[MPSai]

My Shepard didn't import so I remade her face best I could. Even then she ended up looking very cartoony... looking at these pictures it seems like the female features are just all over much more cartoonish and exaggerated.

My Shepard ME2


My Shepard ME3 (created from memory, admittedly.)

[Vhalkyrie]

^ Looks like yours had a jawline change, too.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 07 avril 2012 - 02:33 .