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[Lexa_]

Guys, I know she is a soldier but I reeeeeaaaaaaally want my makeup back . Ashley is a Commander too and her face is covered with eyeshadow, rouge and lipstick.

[Vhalkyrie]

I tried Astralify's map.  A recap on what it does.  It maps only the eyes/eyelashes and mouth, but leaves the base ME3 face in place, as that is what he/she wanted.  For me, it is not just the eyelashes and eyes.  Even without the makeup and gibbed touchups, it is obviously different.  The face shape has changed.

(BTW, the lips were squished in Astralify's map with OffsetBones enabled.  Unchecking it gave better results.)

Left is Astralify's map  ...........................................   Right is Lazarus r17/18 map


For me, the left is unplayable.  I can't look at her without seeing a slightly altered clone.  Despite some of the problems that still remain with Lazarus, I find the mapped version more enjoyable.

DoctorEss wrote...

I've watched your progression.  I'm calling you lucky.  I hold no illusions  of getting to see my Shep anywhere near as close as yours came out.  (Not even counting my OTHER Shepards)

I'd prefer tenacious and bullheaded to lucky.  I knew it was possible, and I wasn't going to take no for an answer.  If you've followed my progression, you also know I got a lot of ups/downs and false starts.  Definitely wasn't easy, and was a lot more error than trial.  I know you're frustrated, and if so, then by all means walk away from this for a little while.  Try again later.  I know I did.  More than once, twice or ten times.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 09:16 .

[J0hnick]

Im getting an error when I try and run this, still using XP SP3

[DoctorEss]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I tried Astralify's map.  A recap on what it does.  It maps only the eyes/eyelashes and mouth, but leaves the base ME3 face in place, as that is what he/she wanted.  For me, it is not just the eyelashes and eyes.  Even without the makeup and gibbed touchups, it is obviously different.  The face shape has changed.

(BTW, the lips were squished in Astralify's map with OffsetBones enabled.  Unchecking it gave better results.)

Left is Astralify's map  ...........................................   Right is Lazarus r17/18 map


For me, the left is unplayable.  I can't look at her without seeing a slightly altered clone.  Despite some of the problems that still remain with Lazarus, I find the mapped version more enjoyable.

DoctorEss wrote...

I've watched your progression.  I'm calling you lucky.  I hold no illusions  of getting to see my Shep anywhere near as close as yours came out.  (Not even counting my OTHER Shepards)

I'd prefer tenacious and bullheaded to lucky.  I knew it was possible, and I wasn't going to take no for an answer.  If you've followed my progression, you also know I got a lot of ups/downs and false starts.  Definitely wasn't easy, and was a lot more error than trial.  I know you're frustrated, and if so, then by all means walk away from this for a little while.  Try again later.  I know I did.  More than once, twice or ten times.

Eh.  Except the problem is:  I don't know jack about Gibbed or whatever you have to do to actually make it look right.  Nor do I think it's going to even come close.  I already don't really enjoy ME3, getting MY Shep was about the only thing holding me on to actually playing through it.

Shrug.

[lillitheris]

J0hnick wrote...

Im getting an error when I try and run this, still using XP SP3

Did you mention that before, or was it someone else? It could be that there's some API or something that's not available until Vista/7/8. I've only a 64-bit 7 myself, so I can't unfortunately test that…

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For makeup problems, they should be relatively easy to get better with Gibbed. Alternatively you could try the high-res texture from the bottom of the first page of this thread. It adds makeup, and better skin tex, but it's a youthful look.

[DaBozUK]

Ok, deleted Lazarus completely, and installed r18 exe and r17 xml as per first page, and did the defaults (offsetbones, scalar, vector and multiple vertices all checked).

Ducklips and gammy cheeks. Click images to enlarge.



BTW, left pick above is my own tweaking of a straight import using the ME3 CC.  Pretty close, structurally, to the look of Lazarus, but not as vibrant or lifelike.




Weird.

Modifié par DaBozUK, 19 avril 2012 - 09:51 .

[UserForFun]

I'm no expert, but I presume that it is -not- supposed to appear like that?

Perhaps I'm using the program wrong, but here's what I do. Open ME2 ---> Open ME3 ----> Save ME3. Then simple get in-game, Mass Effect 3, load save 1000, and bam.. The result is; Self-explanatory.



Do I tweak anything else?

Display Options, there are three options; Normal, Tresholds, and Mapping, which is default -- Which option do I use?

Then there's also edit, ignore vertex, verified; Only verified is selected.

Then there's misc; Auto Track Selected ( Which is default off ) and Adjust 4 options, rest are turned on, as default (OffsetBones, ScalarParamteres, VectorPrameters, Adjust multiple vertices as group ( collapse otherwise ) 

Modifié par UserForFun, 19 avril 2012 - 09:53 .

[DaBozUK]

UserForFun wrote...

I'm no expert, but I presume that it is -not- supposed to appear like that?
Perhaps I'm using the program wrong, but here's what I do. Open ME2 ---> Open ME3 ----> Save ME3. Then simple get in-game, Mass Effect 3, load save 1000, and bam.. The result is; Self-explanatory.



Do I tweak anything else? Display Options, there are three options; Normal, Tresholds, and Mapping, which is default -- Which option do I use? Then there's also edit, ignore vertex, verified; Only verified is selected.
Then there's misc; Auto Track Selected ( Which is default off ) and Adjust 4 options, all are turned on, as default ( OffsetBones, ScalarParamteres, VectorPrameters, Adjust multiple vertices as group ( collapse otherwise ) 

You sure you didn't import a femshep head into a male shep save?  That's what that looks like.

[Vhalkyrie]

DaBozUK wrote...

Ok, deleted Lazarus completely, and installed r18 exe and r17 xml as per first page, and did the defaults (offsetbones, scalar, vector and multiple vertices all checked).

Ducklips and gammy cheeks. Click images to enlarge.

Weird.

I recall Woodbyte saying what the reason for the cheek distortion is but I don't recall what is the cause at the moment.

Edit: I can't find the full text but I found this from Pheonix.  Hamsta Cheeks.  Cheeks are known issue, no fix currently.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 10:15 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Lazarus doesn't work with Male Shepard

[UserForFun]

DaBozUK wrote...

UserForFun wrote...

I'm no expert, but I presume that it is -not- supposed to appear like that?
Perhaps I'm using the program wrong, but here's what I do. Open ME2 ---> Open ME3 ----> Save ME3. Then simple get in-game, Mass Effect 3, load save 1000, and bam.. The result is; Self-explanatory.



Do I tweak anything else? Display Options, there are three options; Normal, Tresholds, and Mapping, which is default -- Which option do I use? Then there's also edit, ignore vertex, verified; Only verified is selected.
Then there's misc; Auto Track Selected ( Which is default off ) and Adjust 4 options, all are turned on, as default ( OffsetBones, ScalarParamteres, VectorPrameters, Adjust multiple vertices as group ( collapse otherwise ) 

You sure you didn't import a femshep head into a male shep save?  That's what that looks like.

Well, I haven't seen what's inside Shepard's pants, to actually provide an adequate reply...
Joking aside, no -- Male in Mass Effect 2, male in Mass Effect 3.

Edit -- Lazarus is only for Female Shepard?

Modifié par UserForFun, 19 avril 2012 - 09:57 .

[Clarian]

Vhalkyrie wrote...
I'd prefer tenacious and bullheaded to lucky.  I knew it was possible, and I wasn't going to take no for an answer.

 
I want to hear Jennifer Hale read that in her Commander Shepard voice. 

Well, I got lucky twice (unlike Vhal, I hardly had to do any work), and there are slight glitches even in mine.  But yeah, the occasionaly weird mouth shape during lipsync is tolerable...FakeShep isn't.
 
Still, it sucks that it doesn't work as well for some people.  It just goes to show that, as great as LP is (especially for something built by students in their spare time), in a way it's a proof-of-concept that yes, ME3 Sheps can look identical to 2.  

The question is, will Bioware step up and implement something that works for everyone, with no added user effort? Or not?

[DoctorEss]

Clarian wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...
I'd prefer tenacious and bullheaded to lucky.  I knew it was possible, and I wasn't going to take no for an answer.

 
I want to hear Jennifer Hale read that in her Commander Shepard voice. 

Well, I got lucky twice (unlike Vhal, I hardly had to do any work), and there are slight glitches even in mine.  But yeah, the occasionaly weird mouth shape during lipsync is tolerable...FakeShep isn't.
 
Still, it sucks that it doesn't work as well for some people.  It just goes to show that, as great as LP is (especially for something built by students in their spare time), in a way it's a proof-of-concept that yes, ME3 Sheps can look identical to 2.  

The question is, will Bioware step up and implement something that works for everyone, with no added user effort? Or not?

I highly doubt they would.  Given the responses we've gotten, they've closed the books and marked this one "working as intended".

Well, I'm glad at least you get your Shep back.  I don't think anything will work for some of us.  I'll be doing one more test (even though I'm fairly certain I've already tested exactly what I'm going TO test), and after that, I'm probably shelving this.

It's not worth continually getting hopes up, only to load the game and see a Shep that doesn't even have the most basic similiarities to mine, outside of both of them being female.

Modifié par DoctorEss, 19 avril 2012 - 10:08 .

[UserForFun]

Excuse my foolishness, I haven't noticed any remark upon the program being reserved for females only, I apologize.

Since it is topic-relevant, there are alternatives for male? The new patch is still sloppy, it does project some similarity, but that's all; It isn't the -same- Shepard, which I got used too, feels like I play a different character... Sounds odd, but it -is-.

[Vhalkyrie]

@UserForFun: Male shep uses a completely different head mesh, as you have discovered! Current focus is femshep, and while progress has been made, it is by no means finished. We've establish proof of concept and works for some, not all. This is a completely player made hack so development on it is purely during spare time (which isn't a lot at this time of year with finals coming up). We'd like Bioware to make an official fix so it works for everyone.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 10:36 .

[Nwalmenil]

StarAce905-2 wrote...

Nwalmenil wrote...

I really appreciate the work you guys are putting into this.

I managed to get around the issue fairly well on my first playthrough by a lot of tweaking but it's nice to know that there might be easier solutions ready for my next game.

You must've been one of the lucky ones. Most of us couldn't recreate our Shepards' faces no matter how much we tweaked. But that's all in history now.

I went through Legion's site to get a better working face code and worked from that. It helped a lot but it still took me quite some time to get him right (and I'm still not sure if it's completely perfcet, but it works)

[Vhalkyrie]

Dadriell wrote...
I think no one has uploaded a map for broshep yet. You can try to map it yourself though as general face structure is quite easy to do. It only gets tough when you try to map eyes and mouth corners.

I wouldn't try this yet.  From Woodbyte (the developer for those new) Lazarus Usage

Also I know MaleSheps have come out mostly right, but I'd like to
give a bit of attention to those as well. If you've tried opening one
you'll have noticed the mapping looks all wrong. This is because they
are an entirely different mesh and will require their own mapping. I
don't recommend trying to map them with the current version of lazarus
because some assumptions are being made that could be specific to
FemSheps.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 10:36 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Some of us have had good to very good results, which is encouraging. But if you aren't, please post your pictures of what happens and be patient. The people working on this are doing it because they want to.

Also this is Bioware's product.  I'd pressure them instead of Lazarus for a fix.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 10:47 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Dadriell wrote...

I haven't tried it myself, but i think that what it means is that Lazarus in it's current state would simply suggest using wrong vertices for mapping by default. Which could be annoying, but not a critical issue per se.
But as i said, i haven't tried it so maybe you're right.

It causes an application crash for me (I have tried).  I'm not sure how UserForFun even got it to load.

[Edit] Just tried it with a different male shepard, and it loads...but it's weird.  Someone could try it, but I'd hate to go through all the time of clicking the vertices to have it not work.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 11:07 .

[UserForFun]

 


My Shepard is not amused how he ended up in Mass Effect 3 

 

Joking aside, there are significant differences between the two, with the patch, hence....

By '' alternative options '' I meant literally, Vhalkyrie; Are other programs of this kind, that has male options. From what I've read, I can pressume that the project in question is taxing, both in time and effort, sorry if it seemed I implied that you should focuss on other project, it was not my intention, not even remotely.

Modifié par UserForFun, 19 avril 2012 - 11:15 .

[lillitheris]

UserForFun wrote...

By '' alternative options '' I meant literally, Vhalkyrie; Are other programs of this kind, that has male options.

As far as we know, no. We're hopeful that BioWare developers are actually looking at this and implementing a proper fix in their importer…

[Vhalkyrie]

UserForFun wrote...

Joking aside, there are significant differences between the two, with the patch, hence....

By '' alternative options '' I meant literally, Vhalkyrie; Are other programs of this kind, that has male options. From what I've read, I can pressume that the project in question is taxing, both in time and effort, sorry if it seemed I implied that you should focuss on other project, it was not my intention, not even remotely.

Not all all, man. Sorry, I didn't mean for you to feel I was singling you out.

This is the only project that I know of at the moment, and it is experimental. I know Woodbyte would like to tackle Male Shepard, but when is an unknown.

And thanks for sharing your male Shepard.  We know there are still problems with him, but don't have as many examples as femshep.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 19 avril 2012 - 11:03 .