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[Chugster]

ok thought i would share my results with the Lazarus project,

Jane in ME2

my version

Lazarus version...way closer...much better IMO

Modifié par Chugster, 22 avril 2012 - 08:14 .

[Holger1405]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

StarAce905-2 wrote...

I always thought the new one looks like a man with slightly feminine features.
Seriously, they even messed that one up.

I think this person on MassEffect2Faces.com did a better job of making the 'new' default Shepard based on the art.

New ME3 Jane Shepard Remake MassEffect2Faces.com

To be fair, default FemShep looks imho better in game as in the CC, still the Fan made versions are superior to her.
I noticed to Blond version on MassEffect2Faces.com earlier this week, but I think that Hellosanta's
Alexis is even better, not to say perfect.

[Geast]

Hi, just stopping by to tell you guys that I appreciate the effort you put in this. You've really outdone yourself this time, BSN people.

And oh, I saw your earlier topic StarAce. I think your Jane is coming out nicely. Maybe put the eyes a bit nearer and making the nose bridge less pronounced?

Modifié par Geast, 22 avril 2012 - 02:21 .

[Chugster]

ok, just wanted to check, does the Lazarus thing do anything to hair? Coz whilst the above Shep came out fine a few others ive tested on had strange hair results, some had style and/or colour changes but others were ok

[Vhalkyrie]

Holger1405 wrote...

To be fair, default FemShep looks imho better in game as in the CC, still the Fan made versions are superior to her. I noticed to Blond version on MassEffect2Faces.com earlier this week, but I think that Hellosanta's
Alexis is even better, not to say perfect.

For my personal tastes, I agree Hellosanta's is the better version. I personally feel the Shepard art is younger than I would play myself. I just think the fan made version is a better translation of the art, but I wouldn't use it myself.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 22 avril 2012 - 02:31 .

[Hellosanta]

My ME2 femshep looked like this ...

And I realized it's impossible to get her right in ME3, I just decided to stick with default looking ... I love ginger, anyway * v*)b
But I think it's great for people to have their own creative femshep, that's the beauty of customizing.

Modifié par Hellosanta, 22 avril 2012 - 02:58 .

[NatPro38]

I've been messing around with some face textures to try and bring it in closer to my ME2 face however i am unsure whether it is better or not:
Normal:


Editied:


Also i want to ask for help in improving what i have, in particular the hair and lips, i'm not sure which hair style would best suit my character. (PS i'm on xbox so no texmod)

great work on recreating the default sheps they seem to get closer each time i look.

[DogmeatPryde]

no fix for xbox yet?

[SaturnRing]

DogmeatPryde wrote...

no fix for xbox yet?

I think technically, Lazarus Project applies for xbox too; it's just too risky.

[NatPro38]

Lazarus should work with xbox but it requires you to convert your saves. This can be done with gibbeds.
http://faceeffect.bl...t-tutorial.html
Near the end is an xbox work around method.

[Holger1405]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Holger1405 wrote...

To be fair, default FemShep looks imho better in game as in the CC, still the Fan made versions are superior to her. I noticed to Blond version on MassEffect2Faces.com earlier this week, but I think that Hellosanta's
Alexis is even better, not to say perfect.

For my personal tastes, I agree Hellosanta's is the better version. I personally feel the Shepard art is younger than I would play myself. I just think the fan made version is a better translation of the art, but I wouldn't use it myself.

Yes, I remember that you feel your Shepard did look to young in ME3. I myself think that Shepard is only 32, couldn't age in her time at the Lazarus Project,  (The other Lazarus Project. ) plus it is almost 200 Years in the future, so they probably found other ways to "preserve" youth. (example: Kahlee Sanders) So I'm Ok with the Art, but this is a matter of Personal taste.      

[lillitheris]

Holger1405 wrote...


Yes, I remember that you feel your Shepard did look to young in ME3. I myself think that Shepard is only 32, couldn't age in her time at the Lazarus Project,  (The other Lazarus Project. ) plus it is almost 200 Years in the future, so they probably found other ways to "preserve" youth. (example: Kahlee Sanders) So I'm Ok with the Art, but this is a matter of Personal taste.      

It's only a matter of personal taste, if you have the option to either create a younger or older character. Unfortunately ME3 made the latter really hard, in favour of the former.

Slightly aside the topic, my impression was that the enhanced lifespan essentially prolonged the middle phase of life that starts after you're done growing (around 25 years) and reduced the infirmity at old age, but of course that's just conjecture.

[Vhalkyrie]

Holger1405 wrote...

Yes, I remember that you feel your Shepard did look to young in ME3. I myself think that Shepard is only 32, couldn't age in her time at the Lazarus Project,  (The other Lazarus Project. ) plus it is almost 200 Years in the future, so they probably found other ways to "preserve" youth. (example: Kahlee Sanders) So I'm Ok with the Art, but this is a matter of Personal taste.

Kaidan said he was 32 in ME1, so I placed my Shepard around that same age.  Good point about the "first" Lazarus reconstructing her at the same age, but in ME3 that would still place her at around 34.  The art photo looks 25ish to me.

My initial ME3 import made my Shepard look around 19. 

Kaidan should be around 36-38.  I think they aged him a bit older (gray hairs in his sideburns), but people who are war weary do tend to age quickly.

lillitheris wrote...

It's only a matter of personal taste, if you have the option to either create a younger or older character. Unfortunately ME3 made the latter really hard, in favour of the former.

Agreed.  While my Shepard finally looks like herself, there are still some scenes where she still comes across as younger than ME2.  I blame this on the textures.  If I could have the ME2 textures back, I'd be 100%.

[Edit] Also, I did experiment with the other ME3 skin textures, but the 'older' skin tex ages Shepard to around Dr. Chakwas' age.  There isn't a mid-30s tex I've found that I like.  I'd just like the ME2 ones back.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 22 avril 2012 - 04:44 .

[Holger1405]

lillitheris wrote...

Holger1405 wrote...


Yes, I remember that you feel your Shepard did look to young in ME3. I myself think that Shepard is only 32, couldn't age in her time at the Lazarus Project,  (The other Lazarus Project. ) plus it is almost 200 Years in the future, so they probably found other ways to "preserve" youth. (example: Kahlee Sanders) So I'm Ok with the Art, but this is a matter of Personal taste.      

It's only a matter of personal taste, if you have the option to either create a younger or older character. Unfortunately ME3 made the latter really hard, in favour of the former.

I was only referring to the official ME3 default FemShep Art from Bioware.
@ ME3 options. I think it is possible to create a older looking FemShep, in the ME3 CC, by changing the skin typ. However, you are right when it comes to imported FemShep's. They have the tendency to look way younger then in ME2.     
     

lillitheris wrote...
Slightly aside the topic, my impression was that the enhanced lifespan
essentially prolonged the middle phase of life that starts after you're
done growing (around 25 years) and reduced the infirmity at old age, but
of course that's just conjecture.

I agree on that too.

Modifié par Holger1405, 22 avril 2012 - 04:31 .

[Holger1405]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Holger1405 wrote...

Yes, I remember that you feel your Shepard did look to young in ME3. I myself think that Shepard is only 32, couldn't age in her time at the Lazarus Project,  (The other Lazarus Project. ) plus it is almost 200 Years in the future, so they probably found other ways to "preserve" youth. (example: Kahlee Sanders) So I'm Ok with the Art, but this is a matter of Personal taste.

Kaidan said he was 32 in ME1, so I placed my Shepard around that same age.  Good point about the "first" Lazarus reconstructing her at the same age, but in ME3 that would still place her at around 34.  The art photo looks 25ish to me.

My initial ME3 import made my Shepard look around 19. 

Kaidan should be around 36-38.  I think they aged him a bit older (gray hairs in his sideburns), but people who are war weary do tend to age quickly.

According to the timeline Shepard is 32, but two years are not a big deal.
@ the Art. I would give her 30... but yah, Personal taste.

[Vhalkyrie]

Holger1405 wrote...

According to the timeline Shepard is 32, but two years are not a big deal.
@ the Art. I would give her 30... but yah, Personal taste.

How do you figure her age?  I never really knew for sure, and I based my assumption off Kaidan being 32 in ME1.  In ME1, my Shepard looked 30.  In ME2, she looked a few years older (I assumed about 34).  In ME2, she had a few lines around the corners of the eyes that have disappeared in ME3.  In my initial import, she was aged back to OCS age at around 19 (for some reason, my import had one of the more extreme examples of ME3 age reversal.  lillitheris' was, too).  With Lazarus/Gibbed reconstruction, she looks about 30 again - lol.  Advances in prolonging lifespan probably slow aging, but not reverse.  But who knows, maybe those Asari facial creams really are that good. 

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 22 avril 2012 - 04:59 .

[lillitheris]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Holger1405 wrote...

According to the timeline Shepard is 32, but two years are not a big deal.
@ the Art. I would give her 30... but yah, Personal taste.

How do you figure her age?  I never really knew for sure, and I based my assumption off Kaidan being 32 in ME1.  In ME1, my Shepard looked 30.  In ME2, she looked a few years older (I assumed about 34).  In ME2, she had a few lines around the corners of the eyes that have disappeared in ME3.  In my initial import, she was aged back to OCS age at around 19 (for some reason, my import had one of the more extreme examples of ME3 age reversal.  lillitheris' was, too).  With Lazarus/Gibbed reconstruction, she looks about 30 again - lol.  Advances in prolonging lifespan probably slow aging, but not reverse.  But who knows, maybe those Asari facial creams really are that good. 

Shepard was born on April 11, 2154, … from the Wiki, it's mentioned in ME at some point.

[Vhalkyrie]

lillitheris wrote...
Shepard was born on April 11, 2154, … from the Wiki, it's mentioned in ME at some point.

Found it in the timeline codex entry (year, but not date).  So 29 in ME1 - thanks for clearing that up. Personally, I'd still age her a bit further as many command soldiers are advanced beyond their time (look at what happens to Presidents).  In my case, I'd like to see at least the same as ME2.  I'll try and post examples later tonight.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 22 avril 2012 - 10:32 .

[DoctorEss]

So any suggestions on how to fix my renegade Shep?

[Sotaknuck]

Hi guys, I just want to thank you for your work and your effort!
I just managed to import my Shepard's face into my ME3 save on XBOX.
She isn't perfect yet, but I'm really happy to see her again: she has the scaly cheeks issue, but her face is much closer to her original self than the horrid look-a-like Patch 1.02 managed to pull out.
Its clearly her: on the front view she is pretty much identical, and this made me able to enjoy the game. I'm confident a solution for the cheeks will be found, and I want to praise you once again for the incredible results already achieved.

I'm also happy, because none of my other 5 shepards (all from ME1 too) work with patch 1.02 and all of them are loaded with the default me3 face (not the prerendered model but the first basic face that appears when you enter edit mode), and I'm sure this wonderful work will make me able to import them as well.

If someone else wants to try an "Xbox Lazarus Procedure", this is how I managed to do it:

1) Formatted an USB Stick with the xbox.
2) Transfered my ME2 and ME3 career on it
3) Exported the careers from the USB Stick using USB XTAF GUI
http://digiex.net/at...xtafgui_v44.zip

4) Did the same for the ME3 Career.

5) Extracted a save from the ME2 career using Modio (any from the career will do, as you only need the face data). http://www.mediafire...010lt6on0114h63

6) Did the same with the save I wanted from ME3 (put in a different folder, as they were both autosave.xbsav)

7) Converted my ME2 save from .xbsav using the ME2 Gibbed able to save as .pcsav, found here: http://social.biowar...t_file_id=11746

8) Converted my ME3 save using ME3 Gibbed found here:
http://svn.gib.me/bu...it-r85_b107.zip

7) Loaded both .pcsav inside LazarusProject (with r17's map and r18's exe)

8) Saved without touching any option. I just pressed ctrl+s as i couldn't see the save button anywhere.

9) Converted the save1000.pcsav obtained from Lazarus using ME3GIbbed into xbsav

10) Injected the save1000.xbsav inside me3 career using modio again (made a backup first)

11) Injected the career back inside the USB using USB XTAF GUI again.

12) Moved both ME2 and ME3 saves back into the xbox hdd

13) Loaded save1000 and cryed with joy. She was back. Scaly cheeked, but definitely back!

I'm confindent a solution will be found for the cheekbones sooner or later. Until then, keep up the good work. You're awesome!

[Holger1405]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Holger1405 wrote...

According to the timeline Shepard is 32, but two years are not a big deal.
@ the Art. I would give her 30... but yah, Personal taste.

How do you figure her age?  I never really knew for sure, and I based my assumption off Kaidan being 32 in ME1.  In ME1, my Shepard looked 30.  In ME2, she looked a few years older (I assumed about 34).  In ME2, she had a few lines around the corners of the eyes that have disappeared in ME3.  In my initial import, she was aged back to OCS age at around 19 (for some reason, my import had one of the more extreme examples of ME3 age reversal.  lillitheris' was, too).  With Lazarus/Gibbed reconstruction, she looks about 30 again - lol.  Advances in prolonging lifespan probably slow aging, but not reverse.  But who knows, maybe those Asari facial creams really are that good. 

ROFL, yes who knows? Or maybe biotics are in the mix.
lillitheris  was of course right, got it from the Wiki.
Looking forward to see your progress. 

[Holger1405]

DoctorEss wrote...

So any suggestions on how to fix my renegade Shep?

If you don't like the Lazerus import at all, it is pretty hard for us to point you in a direction. Specially since only you can say which parts on the ME3 Shepard you don't like.
I would take the Face code from the Lazarus save, put it in the ME3 CC, set the "Hair" slider to far left, so it doesn't distract you and then compare the Face, part by part, to the ME2 version, to figure out which Face parts are the problem.   
Maybe you can solve a few problems direct in the CC, for the rest you will need Gibbed.

[Clarian]

Yet another Lazarus Project victory lap!

Chris Priestly wrote...
I am seeing people saying that even though the faces can import, they do not look identical to how they appeared in Mass Effect 2. While the face codes do now correctly import into Mass Effect 3,

What do you mean by "correctly import"?

Clearly you don't mean "import with eyelashes if the ME2 face had eyelashes," since that doesn't happen.  Or "import with the same hair color as in ME2."

Do you just mean "import without generating an error message"?

Chris Priestly wrote...
due to improvements in things like shaders, lighting, textures, etc they will not look identical to the faces in Mass Effect 2.

 
Look at the second and third pics above.  They have the exact same shaders, lighting, textures, etc.  Yet, one looks identical to the face in ME2, and one...doesn't.

So, the shaders aren't standing in the way of fixing this problem.  Identical faces are fully compatible with all the new shaders and so forth.

Now that we've cleared that up, are you going to fix it?

I actually would like Bioware to answer these questions, by the way...

Modifié par Clarian, 22 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[Ed B]

Just checking if there will be a version for male Sheps?

Also, has Bioware ever acknowledged that 1.02 did not completely fix the face import issues?

[DoctorEss]

Holger1405 wrote...

DoctorEss wrote...

So any suggestions on how to fix my renegade Shep?

If you don't like the Lazerus import at all, it is pretty hard for us to point you in a direction. Specially since only you can say which parts on the ME3 Shepard you don't like.
I would take the Face code from the Lazarus save, put it in the ME3 CC, set the "Hair" slider to far left, so it doesn't distract you and then compare the Face, part by part, to the ME2 version, to figure out which Face parts are the problem.   
Maybe you can solve a few problems direct in the CC, for the rest you will need Gibbed.

I've posted a screenshot sheet earlier.  It's pretty plain how bad it came out.  I just don't know precisely how or what to do in gibbed or lazarus to improve how bad it is.