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Phattee Buttz

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Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.

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Grimy Bunyip

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cool story bro

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Maria Caliban

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I admit, I was on a map earlier today with two infultrators. One rocking a widow and the other rocking a black widow. They did the kill objectives well enough, but I did all the 4-downloads objectives.

Not that I care as they were both beastly with the kill count.

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Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.


Most of the time those 'stationary cannons' (how can you whine about a stationary cannon?!) go stealth and cap objectives and ress you when you die. Also I thought it was good that you got a guy that 1 shots all trash on gold, with and has 3 ammo clip?

Also you can call it a fire support :>

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Chrumpek wrote...


Most of the time those 'stationary cannons' (how can you whine about a stationary cannon?!) go stealth and cap objectives and ress you when you die. Also I thought it was good that you got a guy that 1 shots all trash on gold, with and has 3 ammo clip?

Also you can call it a fire support :>



True, but when you get the 4-point objective, you expect the Infiltrator to take care of it.

Anyone else, and you risk the entire team.

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SinerAthin wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...


Most of the time those 'stationary cannons' (how can you whine about a stationary cannon?!) go stealth and cap objectives and ress you when you die. Also I thought it was good that you got a guy that 1 shots all trash on gold, with and has 3 ammo clip?

Also you can call it a fire support :>



True, but when you get the 4-point objective, you expect the Infiltrator to take care of it.

Anyone else, and you risk the entire team




Every single game, EVERY single random game I play on gold, if we have an infiltrator he goes for that objective alone. Also most of the games we bunker somewhere as a stationary cannons, bio explosions or tech burstererer...rers.

Modifié par Chrumpek, 06 avril 2012 - 08:17 .


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Chrumpek wrote...


Every single game, EVERY single random game I play on gold, if we have an infiltrator he goes for that objective alone. Also most of the games we bunker somewhere as a stationary cannons, bio explosions or tech burstererer...rers.


And that is why it is so bad if you have an Infiltrator who does NOT go for the objective :)

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Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.


In war, why would you move from a defensive position, ever?  For the objectives, I'll break and go for them, but other than that, I'll just handle that Prime, you just relax, k?

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Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.


Well, I agree somewhat. I don't like playing with any more than 1 on my team, but they're great at reviving me and also doing the upload missions while cloaked. 

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I'm gonna ask the stupidly obvious question: Did you *ask* the infiltrator to go get them?

I play a QI religiously and the moment an objective icon is on my screen, I don't shoot *anything* unless it is blocking my path to the objective in some unavoidable way. I pride myself on single-handedly finishing all map objectives ahead of the 3:00 mark, and often ahead of 3:30. (Not looking for approval, just saying thats the standard I hold myself to.)

I just wish I could change the "cover me" sound to "Get away from ME, they can see YOU."

And as an infiltrator, I find it really annoying when some non-infiltrtator dashes in front of me to get the objective a half second before I do, just to force the group to cover their uncloaked arses.

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AremihcO wrote...

In war, why would you move from a defensive position, ever?

To secure an objective. Have you ever heard of this historical footnote called the storming of Normandy beach?

Heck, if people never moved from defensive positions, there'd never be wars.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 avril 2012 - 08:33 .


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Not all bw users are the same.. Me personally have bw and i play as salarian infiltrator, when there is objective, any objective i always run to it first! But i get your point, sometimes minority actions make majority look bad

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I don't play a Black Widow Infiltrator often, but when I do, I'm racing towards those objectives. I also don't like camping for too long. It gets boring after a while. It's much more fun running around and taking cover behind the not-so-random crate. Who needs a defensive position when you can go guerrilla?

Modifié par FFLB, 06 avril 2012 - 08:39 .


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Tell them to go get a Valiant so ammo won't be a problem. >.>

Snipers usually camp ammo crates because they have a low ammo count (though some of us, like me, prefer to be in the action). If they're an infiltrator, it shouldn't be a problem considering if you need ammo you just cloak and run. If it's any other class...well yell at them for sniping without cloak.

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From what I noticed, infiltrators not only limit their situational awareness when using a sniper, but most of them simply don't give a fuck about anything. When I'm downed right next to them, I often see infiltrators just toddling over my bleeding body, hell, they're not even using cloak to at least help themselves not dieing..

Modifié par vivanto, 06 avril 2012 - 08:40 .


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So much infiltrator hate on here recently.

You guys need to play with a good one.
Like me. :D

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Chrumpek

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Maria Caliban wrote...

AremihcO wrote...

In war, why would you move from a defensive position, ever?

To secure an objective. Have you ever heard of this historical footnote called the storming of Normandy beach?

Heck, if people never moved from defensive positions, there'd never be wars.


hey pony hipster you forgot to read the rest of his post :>

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Lolb4udiez

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those are noob Black Widow users

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I think its more that they guy wants to maintain his position and kill things (and add to score). sometimes activating objectives is better handled by someone with less dps if the team overall is performing poorly. if you take the only guy with decent dps away to handle uploads the team might get wiped.

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vivanto wrote...

From what I noticed, infiltrators not only limit their situational awareness when using a sniper, but most of them simply don't give a fuck about anything. When I'm downed right next to them, I often see infiltrators just toddling over my bleeding body, hell, they're not even using cloak to at least help themselves not dieing..


Man where are all these bad Infiltrators? Is it a console thing? I might have seen this back during the first few days of multiplayer, but now everyone seems to know how to play their class.

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eldrjth wrote...

I think its more that they guy wants to maintain his position and kill things (and add to score). sometimes activating objectives is better handled by someone with less dps if the team overall is performing poorly. if you take the only guy with decent dps away to handle uploads the team might get wiped.


If you send the weakest character to cap objectives, you need an escort.

edit:
@Ghorta,
Sadly no, I play on PC. =]

Modifié par vivanto, 06 avril 2012 - 08:46 .


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eldrjth wrote...

I think its more that they guy wants to maintain his position and kill things (and add to score). sometimes activating objectives is better handled by someone with less dps if the team overall is performing poorly. if you take the only guy with decent dps away to handle uploads the team might get wiped.


This is so true.
But if we're on wave 6 or 10 on gold there's very few non-infiltrator players that could pull it off.

Also I've noticed having to run around reviving a person multiple times in a later wave will lead to us ALL getting wiped alot.


Infiltrators are your clutch players.  :bandit:
So stop dying and let us shoot. :P

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i'm a widow user, but i position myself so that i can see at least 2 spawn points; yet to get a black widow

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vivanto wrote...

edit:
@Ghorta,
Sadly no, I play on PC. =]


I'll help you out, lol. My Salarian caps, revives, destroys elites, and brings donuts all before wave 1 starts.

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Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.


agree, Bioware please delete this sniper rifle.