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[Jagdtiger44]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Funny, because on gold PUG's I get lots of people who don't let me do the objective as an infiltrator.....until they die

 
This is true I play my GI with my BW and I don't even go for objectives anymore(unless it is a hack or upload), everytime I do someone else is there so I just kill and rez. If people have a problem with that I really don't care.

[Wethospu]

I always try keep the pressure by shooting all the time (so obviously more around a bit). However, I don't really run off because that may screw up spawning. Unless it is an objective, then I run off and wish the team good luck. Actually, I always over-extend a bit before objective waves.

[Tiamatshade]

I actually snipe half the time while moving.

And I'll keep saying it: Sniping Husks on Gold while moving (leading helps a little) should be an Olympic Sport.

[Amaranthy]

Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.

That's weird, whenever I play as an infiltrator, I always take advantage of my cloack to snipe designated targets down, activate terminals, revive fallen allies and to get away from tough situations.

I have always viewed infiltrators as a back-up class. Sure, they can kill enemies instantly with a well placed shot but I can't see any other class do the things that I mentioned mentioned before as well as an infiltrator does.

[Biotic_Warlock]

I've seen someone stay during a hack; annoying.

[TheStratovarian]

As the infiltrator, i say this, along with vanguard, I cannot play. Adept, sentinel, engineer yes, and as many bad infiltrators as there might be, im darn glad to have a good friend who shines in the overwatch position. He calls out targets, shoots, warns, and provides cover fire shots to stagger and force ones like banshee's or atlas's to stagger. He likely ends up going down more than we do because of covering our hind ends that he misses one fellow that snuck up behind him while we we're sadly occupied.

Infiltrators tend towards certain roles, there are the cannons, they work for some, not for others. The assassins, the melee of the above, scary, and capable of their own nastiness. Another is the overwatch, which with a good eye, spends more time out of scope than in calling targets, and helping with things. In general, some races tend to fall more to others by synergy of race and class powers.

Our usual setup is AA (or SE) , KV, GI, and HS. We work very well because of the nature of our fellow on overwatch. For others, if your more used to bunkering, then you may want to look at the infiltrator as your long range fellow over damage, with the focused synergy, in general, yes, the bad class examples exist (to my shame to have been instant killed as vanguard with a brute). But really, its the person, though weapon can shape much more so how a class can effectively work.

[LucasShark]

So... you are all ****ing about how a sniper operates? Well done...

And honestly infiltrators are hardly the worst players in my opinion: I've seen soldiers ignore downed teammates to try and solo an entire wave.

Modifié par LucasShark, 15 avril 2012 - 06:05 .

[phil2512]

Can I just say that I played the objectives while I used black widow wave 6 had a kill target mission got 3 of the kills first one happend straight after sheapard(?) annoucned it.
And moved to diffrent locations during any uploading mission.

[Goaliebot]

Chrumpek wrote...

SinerAthin wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...


Most of the time those 'stationary cannons' (how can you whine about a stationary cannon?!) go stealth and cap objectives and ress you when you die. Also I thought it was good that you got a guy that 1 shots all trash on gold, with and has 3 ammo clip?

Also you can call it a fire support :>

True, but when you get the 4-point objective, you expect the Infiltrator to take care of it.

Anyone else, and you risk the entire team

Every single game, EVERY single random game I play on gold, if we have an infiltrator he goes for that objective alone. Also most of the games we bunker somewhere as a stationary cannons, bio explosions or tech burstererer...rers.

I have the opposite problem - I can't count thenumber of times I'm playing my SI and find myself foot-racing a human soldier or vanguard to cap one of the 4 objectives and they won't back off. 

[GGW KillerTiger]

 For me they're just noobs that kill hog by waiting for me to make the enemies go down to 1 health bar then they'll run infront of me and finish the enemy off >.> Ruines the fun for me with the broken point assist system when the game ends and I barely break 25k points as the guy finishing off everyone I get to 1 bar of health has over 150k ...... The game gets old and boring fast that way .....

[Aburai]

I'm usually a sniper with a Black Widow, and I usually do hold down an area. As in, I'll stay in a general area and keep it enemy free. When it comes objective time, I will move around the map. If it's enable/disable, I'll do it or cover the person doing it. Not all of us are stationary cannons

[Trickshavv]

This thread needs more persians

[Rynocerous]

Phattee Buttz wrote...

Ok, if you get a person with a Black Widow, then your team effectively consists of three people and a cowardly stationary cannon. They'll find a spot that's near ammo, get into cover and then they will just STAY THERE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. If you have to activate terminals or hunt down enemy personnel, well you better hope you and the other two guys can take care of it because Black Widow guy ain't gonna do squat about it.

My Geth engi uses it. I'm certainly not a cowardly stationary cannon. Thanks for dismissing everyone in your post, though.

[LancerGirl]

You're referring to the noob BW users. I always run around and do the objectives and provide support.

[jerrinehart]

Here's a free piece of advice from an Infiltrator that uses a Black Widow. If you see me running to cap the 4 objective. Let me do it, get away from me, they see you and throw grenades. K thanks.

[Bob Garbage]

A sniper isn't supposed to be your front line attack. He gives support from a far. An infiltrator should be more than willing to get the objectives done, though.

[Topographer]

Ummm. who are you playing with? The Black Widow users I see, and myself especially are the ones reviving, capping points, and doing the most damage for the team. I can't speak for everyone, but I move around as much as anyone with the sniper.

[Dr Derp]

you must have been playing with people who don't have thermal clips

[Zaraki kanzaki]

join my team! i love black widow

[jrod512ATX]

I'm one of those stationary cannons and I'm pretty damn sure my team loves how I lighten the load when they're hacking an objective. I don't stay in one place the whole time I stay where I have a line of sight and where I'm useful. No need to camp an ammo crate, I always have 4 spare thermal clips, that's well over 120 rounds...

[Grimy Bunyip]

whats worse is when the entire team decides its a good idea to tag along for captures
drag alllll the npcs to the capture zone.

[Renew81]

haha this keeps on getting better everyday..

So now its the black widow guy does he also use the magical
invisible cloak ?

Man.. wish i had that, still have normal widow and tactical cloak.

[Deviija]

Nothing wrong with an Infiltrator focusing on sniping or staying near a box of ammo. She's supporting from the back row. Like snipers are supposed to.

Now, if she's the single and only infiltrator on the team when an Capture Points objective comes up, then she *should* be the one to get them.

As long as this person is raking up a death count (and thus thinning the herd from overwhelming everyone else), then it shouldn't be an issue.

[Dillon79]

QQ you don't get what you want boohoo people don't act like you want them to whooptydoo. just tell them you hate them and think they are cowards then get on with your own life.

/thread

Modifié par Dillon79, 15 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[zerobounds]

Actually I use the BW all the time, I put it on my soldier (because im a soldier, duh) and camp in the farthest away corner from my team (so i can get more points, duh) and make sure there's no easy access/exit to where I am (so its harder for the enemies to get to me, duh).