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[Cogneter]

Chrillze wrote...

they have said that they will fix it

In fact, they claimed quite the opposite - they WILL NOT fix the ending, but rather ADD onto it. Check your sources please.

Also, what were you saying about "vast majority"?

[LegatoSkyheart]

Some People are just blabbing out what the FAQ says. We actually have NO IDEA what this "Clarification" actually is.

If it's anything like The Evangelion Movie Ending then I'm pretty sure a lot more people might actually like the "New Ending".

[Chainshada]

No, making a thread to complain about people making threads complaining about things is pretty pathetic, too.

[sergeym1990]

They have conviently ignored 90% of criticism by fan, so it is no surprise people are still upset

[SomeKindaEnigma]

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I just failed at putting a pic up.

Ugh, *facepalm*

Stupid nanobots.

Modifié par SomeKindaEnigma, 06 avril 2012 - 10:06 .

[KingKhan03]

OP is pathetic nothing to see here guys Troll attempt failed.

[Hy0ga]

Chrillze wrote...

Hy0ga wrote...

I'm just gonna crtl+v what I posted in another topic;

There's no clarification in the world to justify that unholy kid. Actually, there's;

If Harbinger and Soverign are rogue reapers and everything we knew about the "old machines" were lies told by the rogue Reapers. And also, no clarification can explain why Shepard just accept every single world the kid says without confrontation, questions or anything at all.

I don't care if Shepard dies. I don't care if my squad dies. I don't care if the galaxy is almost destroyed. I can live without unicorns and rainbows in my ending.

I just want it to make sense. A good written narrative that follows the ME plots and logic. And IMHO sticking with The Catalyst as a omniscient organic lover/reaper commander godly entity and is a hole so big in the story that cannot be fixed.

they can clarify the plot holes and the godchild

They can. If they destroy the previous Reaper's dialogs and actions (wich, for me, was one of the best antagonists ever written). The logic/philosofy of the godkid is the completely opposite of Harbinger and Soverign, they just cannot co-exist without digging another massive plothole.

[KingKhan03]

Oh man why couldn't we of ujst had a conversation with Harbinger for a while i would of been happy then.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 06 avril 2012 - 10:06 .

[Jenonax]

Chrillze - If you believe the PR statement yesterday I feel for you. They aren't fixing anything. We are not five years old. I do not need the ending explained to me, I understood it perfectly well. Its wrong.

EA has thrown us a bone, end of. They have heard the outcry but not listened. And if they have, if somehow, miraculously the DLC fixes everything, if the ending makes sense and is a proper ending the series deserves then guess what Bioware should come out and say it! PR bull**** is simply rubbing everyone up the wrong way now. They are throwing oil onto an already out of control fire that is threatening to burn them down. They have no one to blame but themselves at this point.

[Nwm9000]

Could this be an any more obvious attempt at a troll topic? OP is just throwing around insults and pretending like he has the final say on who is and isn't a Mass Effect fan.

[Flextt]

Chrillze wrote...

Hy0ga wrote...

I'm just gonna crtl+v what I posted in another topic;

There's no clarification in the world to justify that unholy kid. Actually, there's;

If Harbinger and Soverign are rogue reapers and everything we knew about the "old machines" were lies told by the rogue Reapers. And also, no clarification can explain why Shepard just accept every single world the kid says without confrontation, questions or anything at all.

I don't care if Shepard dies. I don't care if my squad dies. I don't care if the galaxy is almost destroyed. I can live without unicorns and rainbows in my ending.

I just want it to make sense. A good written narrative that follows the ME plots and logic. And IMHO sticking with The Catalyst as a omniscient organic lover/reaper commander godly entity and is a hole so big in the story that cannot be fixed.

they can clarify the plot holes and the godchild

"Godchild cannot be clarified." "Godchild can be clarified". That made me giggle. The concept of Godchild is doomed to fail, because...
- No one likes Deus Ex Machina story devices and for good reason. The confusion and irritation we felt is because he effectively renders established rules in our beloved ME universe invalid and thus breaks narrative coherence. ME's rules were simple: The Reaper want us dead. They are superior. We are based on their technical advances and thus can suspend disbelief like FTL travel.
- "The Reapers are my solution." <--> "The created will always rebel against their Creators." from Catalyst dialogue
- He has created the Reapers, as a race of syntho-organic hybrids, to prevent synthetic races from snuffing out all organic life. At the same time, every known conflict or hostile action involving synthetics was incited by Reapers or happened out of self-defence with no intrinsic malice like the Catalyst wants to make us believe: The Zha'til from the Prothean cycle, the Geth two times, several rogue AIs and VIs. The only time synthetic life would actively pose a threat was Project Overlord, when David was tortured so badly, he went temporarily insane, and EDI, who became self-aware while being attacked and hence lashed out in self-defense.

The Godchild is a walking plothole device. Sorry. Your turn, Chrillze.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia....Urey_experiment Given fitting conditions, life has a tendency to regenerate itself. It is not possible to snuff it out for eternity, unless synthetics would make the effort and change the climate on all garden worlds. (lol)

More arguments:
- If the Catalyst makes the assumption, he is bound to have proof. Why doesn't he bring it forth? Evidence from our cycle suggests, the Reapers are in fact a bigger threat than synthetics in general.
- Why would synthetics bother destroying organic life? While we may seem chaotic, we wouldn't even compete for habitats or resources, because synthetics are much more resilient and could just take off to another galaxy, if they have enough propulsion and energy.

Modifié par Flextt, 06 avril 2012 - 10:13 .

[lillitheris]

Man, some petty people out today. Most people aren't gracious losers, some can't even muster the effort when ‘winning’.

[Prent62]

Why is it whenever someone has the same point as me they go to completely wrong way about it.

Never insult people on the internet. It's much more infuriating to them if you are calm and mature.

[wtbusername]

Spectre-00N7 wrote...

Any thread that starts with "You are pathetic" is doomed to fail.

Doesn't make it any less true.

[Pandaman102]

OP, have you actually read any of the complaints? Quite a few of them are just rants, but there are those that state specifically why extending the endings cannot address any of the concerns they raised before.

Do you wish to continue your sweeping generalizations despite it being wrong?

Modifié par Pandaman102, 06 avril 2012 - 10:14 .

[Spectre-00N7]

wtbusername wrote...

Spectre-00N7 wrote...

Any thread that starts with "You are pathetic" is doomed to fail.

Doesn't make it any less true.

But it doesn't leave much room for discusion due to the fact that it is now a troll post.

[Chrillze]

Prent62 wrote...

Why is it whenever someone has the same point as me they go to completely wrong way about it.

Never insult people on the internet. It's much more infuriating to them if you are calm and mature.

I will be calm and mature to people that deserves it, these whiners don't deserve a calm and mature response from me

[Chrillze]

Pandaman102 wrote...

OP, have you actually read any of the complaints? Quite a few of them are just rants, but there are those that state specifically why extending the endings cannot address any of the concerns they raised before.

Do you wish to continue your sweeping generalizations despite it being wrong?

I bet there are intellectual people that wan the end changed, but I can't find their posts. all I see are people screaming att Bioware/EA and act like entitled kids

[Flextt]

Chrillze wrote...

Pandaman102 wrote...

"OP, have you actually read any of the complaints? Quite a few of them are just rants, but there are those that state specifically why extending the endings cannot address any of the concerns they raised before.

Do you wish to continue your sweeping generalizations despite it being wrong?

I bet there are intellectual people that wan the end changed, but I can't find their posts. all I see are people screaming att Bioware/EA and act like entitled kids

"Godchild cannot be clarified." "Godchild can be clarified". That made
me giggle. The concept of Godchild is doomed to fail, because...
- No
one likes Deus Ex Machina story devices and for good reason. The
confusion and irritation we felt is because he effectively renders
established rules in our beloved ME universe invalid and thus breaks
narrative coherence. ME's rules were simple: The Reaper want us dead.
They are superior. We are based on their technical advances and thus can
suspend disbelief like FTL travel.
- "The Reapers are my solution." <--> "The created will always rebel against their Creators." from Catalyst dialogue
-
He has created the Reapers, as a race of syntho-organic hybrids, to
prevent synthetic races from snuffing out all organic life. At the same
time, every known conflict or hostile action involving synthetics was
incited by Reapers or happened out of self-defence with no intrinsic
malice like the Catalyst wants to make us believe: The Zha'til from the
Prothean cycle, the Geth two times, several rogue AIs and VIs. The only
time synthetic life would actively pose a threat was Project Overlord,
when David was tortured so badly, he went temporarily insane, and EDI,
who became self-aware while being attacked and hence lashed out in
self-defense.

The Godchild is a walking plothole device. Sorry. Your turn, Chrillze.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia....Urey_experiment
Given fitting conditions, life has a tendency to regenerate itself. It
is not possible to snuff it out for eternity, unless synthetics would
make the effort and change the climate on all garden worlds. (lol)

More arguments:
-
If the Catalyst makes the assumption, he is bound to have proof. Why
doesn't he bring it forth? Evidence from our cycle suggests, the Reapers
are in fact a bigger threat than synthetics in general.
- Why would
synthetics bother destroying organic life? While we may seem chaotic, we
wouldn't even compete for habitats or resources, because synthetics are
much more resilient and could just take off to another galaxy, if they
have enough propulsion and energy."

Where are your arguments for Starchild, Chrillze?

[saracen16]

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3?

While I agree to an extent, I disagree that they are fans within quotation marks. The Retakers wouldn't be Mass Effect fans like us if they didn't react so passionately to Mass Effect 3. However, those who are reacting destructively should reconsider their course of action.

[Chrillze]

Flextt wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Pandaman102 wrote...

"OP, have you actually read any of the complaints? Quite a few of them are just rants, but there are those that state specifically why extending the endings cannot address any of the concerns they raised before.

Do you wish to continue your sweeping generalizations despite it being wrong?

I bet there are intellectual people that wan the end changed, but I can't find their posts. all I see are people screaming att Bioware/EA and act like entitled kids

"Godchild cannot be clarified." "Godchild can be clarified". That made
me giggle. The concept of Godchild is doomed to fail, because...
- No
one likes Deus Ex Machina story devices and for good reason. The
confusion and irritation we felt is because he effectively renders
established rules in our beloved ME universe invalid and thus breaks
narrative coherence. ME's rules were simple: The Reaper want us dead.
They are superior. We are based on their technical advances and thus can
suspend disbelief like FTL travel.
- "The Reapers are my solution." <--> "The created will always rebel against their Creators." from Catalyst dialogue
-
He has created the Reapers, as a race of syntho-organic hybrids, to
prevent synthetic races from snuffing out all organic life. At the same
time, every known conflict or hostile action involving synthetics was
incited by Reapers or happened out of self-defence with no intrinsic
malice like the Catalyst wants to make us believe: The Zha'til from the
Prothean cycle, the Geth two times, several rogue AIs and VIs. The only
time synthetic life would actively pose a threat was Project Overlord,
when David was tortured so badly, he went temporarily insane, and EDI,
who became self-aware while being attacked and hence lashed out in
self-defense.

The Godchild is a walking plothole device. Sorry. Your turn, Chrillze.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia....Urey_experiment
Given fitting conditions, life has a tendency to regenerate itself. It
is not possible to snuff it out for eternity, unless synthetics would
make the effort and change the climate on all garden worlds. (lol)

More arguments:
-
If the Catalyst makes the assumption, he is bound to have proof. Why
doesn't he bring it forth? Evidence from our cycle suggests, the Reapers
are in fact a bigger threat than synthetics in general.
- Why would
synthetics bother destroying organic life? While we may seem chaotic, we
wouldn't even compete for habitats or resources, because synthetics are
much more resilient and could just take off to another galaxy, if they
have enough propulsion and energy."

Where are your arguments for Starchild, Chrillze?

BioWare wrote it, they can clarify it better than any ''fans'' can

[Chrillze]

saracen16 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3?

While I agree to an extent, I disagree that they are fans within quotation marks. The Retakers wouldn't be Mass Effect fans like us if they didn't react so passionately to Mass Effect 3. However, those who are reacting destructively should reconsider their course of action.

They are not fans, they are fanatics

[sargon1986]

Chrillze wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Your mother's pathetic.

that's mature of you. Seriously just leave

You just called everyone pathetic. Does that make you more mature? I don't think so. Go away troll.

[Flextt]

That's not the point of a work of art. Everyone can make his own interpretations. I gave you reasons why I dislike Starchild, which are based on the least amount of conjecture possible for me. My interpretation didn't come very far, because of perceived errors on Bioware's side. Obviously you came farther than me. Far enough to like it. So what is your interpretation and idea of reasoning behind Starchild?

[Nu-Nu]

Nowhere does it say that people are gonna have their blue babies.