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[Zix13]

Chrillze wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Too bad this isn't what we asked for. We asked for them to deliver what they promised. This is still an A, B C ending that is a broken narrative. Unless they remove starchild, they will not have an ending that is fundamentally sound.

they can still fix it

If they overhaul the ending, they can. With what they're describing, no they can't. 

[Trentgamer]

Chrillze wrote...

andrea yox wrote...

hate? rabid dog? pathetic? uhm.....when? I think i just wrote my opinion in a much more civil and polite way than you Chrillize. I respect your opinion and i'm happy if you like the end of the game as it is, at least try to do the same.

I don't like the ending as it is, and you acted mature, I am talking about the angry retakers that are spamming the forums with hate threads

Just...irony. You are angry about retakers and their hate threads, yet you make a hate thread about the retakers hate threads? Wow I guess some people really are living in a land of ignorance.

[Chrillze]

Trentgamer wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

andrea yox wrote...

hate? rabid dog? pathetic? uhm.....when? I think i just wrote my opinion in a much more civil and polite way than you Chrillize. I respect your opinion and i'm happy if you like the end of the game as it is, at least try to do the same.

I don't like the ending as it is, and you acted mature, I am talking about the angry retakers that are spamming the forums with hate threads

Just...irony. You are angry about retakers and their hate threads, yet you make a hate thread about the retakers hate threads? Wow I guess some people really are living in a land of ignorance.

nice, another intellectual and constructive post from you, not

[RebelTitan428]

Chrillze wrote...

Adugan wrote...

OP is pathetic for calling people pathetic when he is in fact pathetic. The only thing more ironic is calling others hipocrites while being one.

if I was pathetic I wouldn't call other people pathetic, if you take a VIDEOGAME this seriously you are pathetic

if you dont take it seriously why are you on here calling people pathetic, if you are just playing for the sake of playing yet feel the need to call other pathetic speaks volumes of your character as a human being. why dont you go put this effort into something else and save us the time even having to acknowledge your existence.

go play a racing game, or is a racing game too pathetic for you?

[vigna]

While I don't agree with your tone OP I agree with teh sentiment that we should see what we get before going haywire again.

We are getting what we are getting.........If Bioware fails to deliver then take of that what you will.

[Suparaddy]

If people want to throw their fits, let them throw their fits and ignore them. I'm largely skimming past all the "omfg no new endings!!one!!!eleven!!!!" threads because I don't want to waste my time. Giving in to their venom and taking the time to acknowledge their drivel with name calling is a failure on my part to keep my own composure.

Now is the time for patience and observation. The ball is in Bioware's hands, they've got the free throws with the game on the line. Be a part of the home team and ignore the crazy, rabid fans screaming for them to gdiaf, and lets see what they can do in the clutch.

I just hope they shoot better than Shaq.

[JasonDaPsycho]

Think about it. If the extended cut somehow makes the ending logical, you would figure that they would have included those scenes. I don't care about Krogan babies. I care about logical endings. I'm OK with Shepard dying. I'm not ok with space genocide.

[Chrillze]

RebelTitan428 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Adugan wrote...

OP is pathetic for calling people pathetic when he is in fact pathetic. The only thing more ironic is calling others hipocrites while being one.

if I was pathetic I wouldn't call other people pathetic, if you take a VIDEOGAME this seriously you are pathetic

if you dont take it seriously why are you on here calling people pathetic, if you are just playing for the sake of playing yet feel the need to call other pathetic speaks volumes of your character as a human being. why dont you go put this effort into something else and save us the time even having to acknowledge your existence.

go play a racing game, or is a racing game too pathetic for you?

be excellent to eachother...seriously

[Chrillze]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

Think about it. If the extended cut somehow makes the ending logical, you would figure that they would have included those scenes. I don't care about Krogan babies. I care about logical endings. I'm OK with Shepard dying. I'm not ok with space genocide.

Then don't play <3

[locsphere]

Guys he is getting off on this, after this post, let the thread die! Don't feed the trolls

[Menalaos1971]

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

[RebelTitan428]

except the same persone who thought starchild was a good idea is involved with our "clarification"

thats enough to speculate about

[Chrillze]

locsphere wrote...

Guys he is getting off on this, after this post, let the thread die! Don't feed the trolls

I sure am bro

[Chrillze]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

They do...It's called EMS

[2484Stryker]

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3? (I am talking about the rabbid dogs that spew their pathetic hate on the forums, NOT the people that come with constructive criticism about the ending)

That right there is your problem.  Better luck next time.

[Nial Black-Knee]

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3? (I am talking about the rabbid dogs that spew their pathetic hate on the forums, NOT the people that come with constructive criticism about the ending)

Hey dude, wipe that brown stuff off your nose eh.

bioware shill, nuff said

[Cgrissom]

Chrillze wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

They do...It's called EMS

*sigh* I'd love to have an intellectual discussion on this point, but i really doubt you're the right person to have that with.

[Menalaos1971]

Chrillze wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

They do...It's called EMS

If that is somehow enough for you then you totally missed the point of Mass Effect.  A static number in the background that has no material impact on the story being the only thing our choices impact is no where near enough.

Furthermore, all of the pre-launch marketing for ME3 went on and on about how widely varied the ending can be based on all of our decisions (one ending isn't widely varied), how the players are the architects of their own ending, and of course Casey Hundon's infamous statement that we wouldn't just be given a "Choose A, B, or C" ending, which we were.

[Chrillze]

Cgrissom wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

They do...It's called EMS

*sigh* I'd love to have an intellectual discussion on this point, but i really doubt you're the right person to have that with.

Thanks, I feel the same way about you

[mxfox408]

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3? (I am talking about the rabbid dogs that spew their pathetic hate on the forums, NOT the people that come with constructive criticism about the ending)

I'm not happy about the way the extended cut is going, but if your going to insult me over it take this t(^_^t) I have a right to be skeptical, especially after all the hype and promises we received before ME 3 was released. Do I have a reason to not trust what bioware says? **** yeah I do, after that piece of **** ending we received and the BS PR spins I have a reason to raise one eybrow to whatever they say. In essence ill believe thier words when I see it. Now we got you slamming people who feel as I do? Take your own damn advice, if you don't like what you see simply ignore it and get on with your programmed thinking. t(^_^t)

[kegNeggs]

ill believe you when I see these blue babies. other than that I dont much care at this point

[Byronic-Knight]

Chrillze wrote...

Rickin10 wrote...

N7 MACK wrote...

Amen. I never realized how selfish/entitled the RME movement was until yesterday.

Yeah, man.  Wanting what was promised.  Those pesky consumers, eh?

What did they promise? enlighten me please

"I'm always leery of saying there are 'optimal'endings, because I thing one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are optimal for different people."

--Mac Walters (lead writer)

"There are many different endings. We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that. . . "

--Mike Gamble (Associative Producer)

"Every decision you've made wil impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."

--Mike Gamble (Associative Producer)

"You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers t these people"

--Mike Gamble (Associative Producer)

"For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different based on what you would do in those situations."

--Casey Hudson (Director)

Probably most damning of all, particularlly regarding the argument of, "It's their product, and they can end it however they want to, everyone complaining should just suck it up." 

Interviewer: "So are you guys the creators or stewards of the franchise?"
Hudson: "Umm. . . you know, at this point, I think we're co-creators with the fans. We use a lot of feedback."

--Casey Hudson (Director)

The thread I got all the quotes from: 
http://social.biowar...ndex/10204263/1 

So, I didn't get an ending that was optimal for me, I wasn't able to do what I would do at the end, I received no answers, and I certainly did not feel like an architect or co-creator. What I felt like happened was they gave me a bucket of pre-selected Lego bricks, told me to build something with them, and then, after I was finished, took what I made back and rearranged it into something they wanted to make to begin with, and then proceed to get mad at my anger when they refuse to explain why I was told to make something at all. 

And to make matters worse, now the people that are complaining about the people saying the ending was ******-poor are telling said people that they shouldn't feel like the architects or co-creators because it was Bioware's work of art to do with what they saw fit---which would be fine if they say fit to make a story without any in-game input from the player, but they didn't. They saw fit to hand the narrative for each player to tell, making them, instead, the creators of many possible outcomes. 

If you want to make something to present to me, fine. But don't tell me I'm the architect, give me a pen, and then substitute my blueprints for yours when building the ultimate structure. (which, going along with the horrendous implications of the ending, is then demolished. . . what the hell was the point at all?)

Modifié par Byronic-Knight, 06 avril 2012 - 03:41 .

[Chrillze]

mxfox408 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

 You are pathetic. BioWare is giving you exactly what you have been asking for: clarification, closure and blue babies and you are still whining. BioWare could have ignored you but instead they give you what you want but you ungrateful "fans" are still complaining. I have a tip for you: If you hate the ME3 ending so much(I didn't like it either) and are still rageing when they have said that they will fix it, how about you just leave the forums and stop bother the vast majority that are true fans and are happy with the extended cut. I have heard that Diablo 3 will come out within a month, maybe that can make you forget ME3? (I am talking about the rabbid dogs that spew their pathetic hate on the forums, NOT the people that come with constructive criticism about the ending)

I'm not happy about the way the extended cut is going, but if your going to insult me over it take this t(^_^t) I have a right to be skeptical, especially after all the hype and promises we received before ME 3 was released. Do I have a reason to not trust what bioware says? **** yeah I do, after that piece of **** ending we received and the BS PR spins I have a reason to raise one eybrow to whatever they say. In essence ill believe thier words when I see it. Now we got you slamming people who feel as I do? Take your own damn advice, if you don't like what you see simply ignore it and get on with your programmed thinking. t(^_^t)

I have never said anything bad about people that voice their opinion in a calm, civilized and constructive manner, I only call the hateful lretakers that act like rabbid dogs pathetic

[Cgrissom]

Chrillze wrote...

Cgrissom wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

OK, I'm assume someone has set OP straight a dozen times in here already, but if not..

No one ask for them to clarify the crap ending. We asked to be given what they've marketed to us for 5 years. A game where our choices matter, and the current ending ignores all of our choices.

They do...It's called EMS

*sigh* I'd love to have an intellectual discussion on this point, but i really doubt you're the right person to have that with.

Thanks, I feel the same way about you

Do you really think we're all pathetic? I mean, really? The majority of people I see have posted perfectly legitimate concerns and then are told by people that we're "whiny", "entitled" and all sorts of other names. And honestly, had your initial post not insulted me in some great sweeping generalized insult I might actually value your opinion somewhat. But really, a mass insult at the start is just plain not nice and narrow-minded.

[mxfox408]

Chrillze wrote...

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

Think about it. If the extended cut somehow makes the ending logical, you would figure that they would have included those scenes. I don't care about Krogan babies. I care about logical endings. I'm OK with Shepard dying. I'm not ok with space genocide.

Then don't play <3

Dont like what you see on these forums, then don't read them just ignore them. The best advice i can give is to take your own.