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nhsknudsen wrote...

YukiFA wrote...

That's pretty funny. Becazuse a uncorn farting a rainbow is prety much what we got at the end.

Why is it so bad wanting to achieve a happy ending where Shepard survives and is reunited with their friends?

Nothing, but without sacrifice it cheapens the threat. If they did it like a "Dark Ritual", where it comes at a price you may not be willing to do, depending on your morality... Maybe

You did have that dark ritual -- "You can also choose to destroy us, but it will destroy all synthetics, and the Geth, and even you are part synthetic." -- so the "part synthetic" of you stops working, but you don't need that anymore and probably will lose a leg or something, and you will kill the Geth to survive. There's your dark ritual. You get that if your EMS is high enough. And if Miranda survived, there's enough Reaper tech around she could probably repair any damage done by the starbastard.

[PsyrenY]

@vhlerg:

1) I saw no posts about the Normandy's crash. I expect I'll find out in summer with the rest of you.

2) No, I just know there's a difference between someone passing out and dying, and need more proof before I leap screaming to conclusions.

3) Then the Penny-Arcade ending is for you, my friend! Enjoy your krogan cake.

4) You brought up "does this unit have a soul" as some kind of weird reasoning for why Legion shouldn't die. When if anything that just makes his self-sacrifice even more meaningful.

5) Prima Guide came out at the same time the game did. Do you honestly think they played through the whole game in one hour? Do you even understand how the industry works?

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 06 avril 2012 - 08:03 .

[vlherg]

Optimystic_X wrote...

@vhlerg:

1) I saw no posts about the Normandy's crash. I expect I'll find out in summer with the rest of you.

2) No, I just know there's a difference between someone passing out and dying, and need more proof before I leap screaming to conclusions.

3) Then the Penny-Arcade ending is for you, my friend! Enjoy your krogan cake.

4) You brought up "does this unit have a soul" as some kind of weird reasoning for why Legion shouldn't die. When if anything that just makes his self-sacrifice even more meaningful.

5) Prima Guide came out at the same time the game did. Do you honestly think they played through the whole game in one hour? Do you even understand how the industry works?

1. Then have a look on twitter or read the forums and you'll find it.

2. Passing out after being shot  while on a space station that explodes a couple of minutes later is not the same as just passing out. One of those situations is going to mean death. Everyone else accepts that Anderson died, if it's really so hard for you to accept maybe you should go watch some Disney.

3. Your lack of reading comprehension is showing up again. Go back to the beginning of this thread and start again. Maybe you'll understand after a second read through.

4. For someone who goes on so often about reading comprehension, your own is pretty lacking. You said that Legion didn't die because its memories were shared amongst the Geth.

Your exact words,

Optimystic_X wrote...
 Legion's "death" wasn't. All his memories and experiences went out to all geth, it would be child's play for them to make another platform that knows everything that he knew and even shares his opinions.

But would it have his soul?
I say that Legion did die because it was now an individual, a point reinforced by the in game reference to its soul. This is sacrifice. There is already sacrifice throughout the game without any need for the absence of a reunion ending.

5. Prima guides are notorious for mistakes. In this case though, it's not even a mistake. The description of "saving" Anderson is about preventing TIM from immediately killing him so you can have the final conversation with him. Reading comprehension FTW.

I would ask you again what you think the sacrifice was that you made. But you clearly just argue for argument's sake as evidenced by your reversal of your own position. Troll harder.

[CerealWar]

You can still have a bittersweet ending where the hero lives. Billions of organics are needlessly slaughtered. You still lose crew mates.

And why not rainbows and unicorns? When World War II ended, people were dancing in the streets and making babies. Wouldn't beating the force that had been terrorizing the galaxy for millions of years call for a gigantic Endor party to erupt? Shepard wouldn't even have to be alive to see it. They could have just shown it. Like a 10 minute FF8 cutscene.

[PsyrenY]

vlherg wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

@vhlerg:

1) I saw no posts about the Normandy's crash. I expect I'll find out in summer with the rest of you.

2) No, I just know there's a difference between someone passing out and dying, and need more proof before I leap screaming to conclusions.

3) Then the Penny-Arcade ending is for you, my friend! Enjoy your krogan cake.

4) You brought up "does this unit have a soul" as some kind of weird reasoning for why Legion shouldn't die. When if anything that just makes his self-sacrifice even more meaningful.

5) Prima Guide came out at the same time the game did. Do you honestly think they played through the whole game in one hour? Do you even understand how the industry works?

1. Then have a look on twitter or read the forums and you'll find it.

2. Passing out after being shot  while on a space station that explodes a couple of minutes later is not the same as just passing out. One of those situations is going to mean death. Everyone else accepts that Anderson died, if it's really so hard for you to accept maybe you should go watch some Disney.

3. Your lack of reading comprehension is showing up again. Go back to the beginning of this thread and start again. Maybe you'll understand after a second read through.

4. For someone who goes on so often about reading comprehension, your own is pretty lacking. You said that Legion didn't die because its memories were shared amongst the Geth.

Your exact words,

Optimystic_X wrote...
 Legion's "death" wasn't. All his memories and experiences went out to all geth, it would be child's play for them to make another platform that knows everything that he knew and even shares his opinions.

But would it have his soul?
I say that Legion did die because it was now an individual, a point reinforced by the in game reference to its soul. This is sacrifice. There is already sacrifice throughout the game without any need for the absence of a reunion ending.

5. Prima guides are notorious for mistakes. In this case though, it's not even a mistake. The description of "saving" Anderson is about preventing TIM from immediately killing him so you can have the final conversation with him. Reading comprehension FTW.

I would ask you again what you think the sacrifice was that you made. But you clearly just argue for argument's sake as evidenced by your reversal of your own position. Troll harder.

1) Extended cut is neither on the forums nor twitter.

2) Shepard was also shot and caught on an exploding space station, yet he can survive too. I know you don't like the endings but you could at least try to watch them before attempting to discuss them.

3) So I lack reading comprehension when I reject your and others ideas of golden endings? I understand exactly the disney resolution you folks want, and I'm very glad that Bioware is not giving it to you.

4) That depends on your definition of "soul." For anyone, but most of all a machine, I see no meaningful distinction between that and {memories + personality.} 

5) So not only do you work at Bioware, now you work at Prima too! Troll harder, my friend.

[merylisk]

It's not that I don't WANT a happy ending. It's that I would have been fine with a darker ending, if it were dramatically powerful and moving and felt like it gave emotional closure to the series. That's the important part.

If you're going to yank the rug out from under your fans, you better make sure to do it gracefully.