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[darkhorsedan72]

 I find it strange that this choice isn't open to you if your EMS rating isn't high enough, despite it being, in my opinion, the worst choice to make.

The reasons for this are many, but my primary beef with this choice is that the only valid reason I can see for choosing Synthesis is that you completely believe what the Starchild is saying, although for many of us, our experiences over the course of the game will likely have you thinking differently.

Like in many people's playthroughs the Geth and the Quarians would have made peace, and there is also of course EDI, who does everything in her power to look after the safety and well being of the Normandy crew. With that sort of evidence you're going to find it hard to believe the so called wisdom of a being you've only recently been made an acquaintance with. A being who for all intents and purposes has been the mastermind of your destruction since the story began. 

So yeah, I guess I'm looking for feedback (and perhaps a friendly debate) from people who chose this ending as the best possible option because I'm of the opinion it isn't.

(I understand there's a good chance this post will be buried under the current backlash of the DLC extended cut announcement)

[lofte_2000]

I wouldn't mind knowing too

[DarthRic]

Modifié par DarthRic, 06 avril 2012 - 11:34 .

[xXxPoopballs]

Because this is the super hard ending to get. Casey said getting the "best" possible ending was going to be hard to get...not sure how scanning planets and doing lame N7 missions to get your EMS up is hard.

[nikki191]

i dont really get it either because when you boil it down.. you are totally accepting the premise of space ghost and worse than that you are making the choice for the entire galaxy you are fulfilling the reapers ultimate goal for them..

bet the reapers dont even call you the next day

[Fat Headed Wolf]

At a certain point I realized my Shep wasn't dreaming and this was all indeed real so I jumped into the light and somehow changed the ENTIRE-MOLECULAR-COMPOSITION-OF-THE-GALAXY since Casper said it would ensure peace.

[darkhorsedan72]

xXxPoopballs wrote...

Because this is the super hard ending to get. Casey said getting the "best" possible ending was going to be hard to get...not sure how scanning planets and doing lame N7 missions to get your EMS up is hard.

Well the 'Destroy ending where Shephard takes a breath' is the hardest one to get. Some people are calling that the 'best ending' as well, but I'm not sure about that either as that choice will mean the destruction of the Geth and EDI. 

[GreyGhost1989]

I didn't choose it, but the appeal seems to be that it is the perfect "solution" to the problem.

Reapers stop reaping, all races come together in unity, no more sickness, synthetics have feelings, etc. etc.

Only problem is that the Relays still blow up.

I seriously feel that the only reason people dislike this ending is because they have had the indoctrination theory beat into their heads so much that they think it is fact.

[Zoedoll]

Because I was so confused and disorientated by the sudden appearance of a deus ex machina that I stumbled forwards into the light and didn't realise I had to go in a different direction to actually destroy the Reapers

[darkhorsedan72]

nikki191 wrote...

i dont really get it either because when you boil it down.. you are totally accepting the premise of space ghost and worse than that you are making the choice for the entire galaxy you are fulfilling the reapers ultimate goal for them..

bet the reapers dont even call you the next day

Yeah, the moral implications of rewriting the DNA of every organic being in the galaxy (which I assume must include things like plants and bacteria as well) are staggering. When I was presented with that I just thought "Shephard isn't big enough to make that sort of choice". If the future of intelligent life in the galaxy is to become partly Synthetic we should arrive at that point under our own steam otherwise, like you said, we are just developing along the path that the Reapers - and by extension the Catalyst's - desire.

[joe1852]

cuz i had already chose destroy on my first playthrough and i wanted to choose synthesis for my second

[0ts0]

darkhorsedan72 wrote...

 I find it strange that this choice isn't open to you if your EMS rating isn't high enough, despite it being, in my opinion, the worst choice to make.

The reasons for this are many, but my primary beef with this choice is that the only valid reason I can see for choosing Synthesis is that you completely believe what the Starchild is saying, although for many of us, our experiences over the course of the game will likely have you thinking differently.

Like in many people's playthroughs the Geth and the Quarians would have made peace, and there is also of course EDI, who does everything in her power to look after the safety and well being of the Normandy crew. With that sort of evidence you're going to find it hard to believe the so called wisdom of a being you've only recently been made an acquaintance with. A being who for all intents and purposes has been the mastermind of your destruction since the story began. 

So yeah, I guess I'm looking for feedback (and perhaps a friendly debate) from people who chose this ending as the best possible option because I'm of the opinion it isn't.

(I understand there's a good chance this post will be buried under the current backlash of the DLC extended cut announcement)

Every ending is crap. I chosed green.. well, it's a bit more off than the others. The whole option seem spawned from one of the writers behind Stargate (another crappy production which should be banned).

[Rickin10]

Because I hate diversity. We must all be the same to get along.

[DESTRAUDO]

darkhorsedan72 wrote...
 only  valid reason I can see for choosing Synthesis is that you completely believe what the Starchild is saying, 

I chose synth, and yes i did believe everything he told me. 

Why?

Because your are forced to take him at his word. In that the game made a huge error. 

If the star child can lie, then why would i believe him when he says shooting this red thing would kill all the reapers and himself. Why would it tell me how to kill it. Why could it not be lying about destroy, and be trying to get you to blow up the power conduit on the right that feeds power to the console on the left, which is where you could make your actual choices from. 

See, to engage the scene at all you have to assume the catalyst is telling the truth, there in lies the true problem with the ending. 

Modifié par DESTRAUDO, 06 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[DraCZeQQ]

the space brat tricked me in my weakest moment!

[masseffect420]

darkhorsedan72 wrote...

xXxPoopballs wrote...

Because this is the super hard ending to get. Casey said getting the "best" possible ending was going to be hard to get...not sure how scanning planets and doing lame N7 missions to get your EMS up is hard.

Well the 'Destroy ending where Shephard takes a breath' is the hardest one to get. Some people are calling that the 'best ending' as well, but I'm not sure about that either as that choice will mean the destruction of the Geth and EDI. 

I killed them all because tha's what Shepard would do! Humans over all!   ☣ ☣ ☢ ☢ 

[Joccaren]

darkhorsedan72 wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

i dont really get it either because when you boil it down.. you are totally accepting the premise of space ghost and worse than that you are making the choice for the entire galaxy you are fulfilling the reapers ultimate goal for them..

bet the reapers dont even call you the next day

Yeah, the moral implications of rewriting the DNA of every organic being in the galaxy (which I assume must include things like plants and bacteria as well) are staggering. When I was presented with that I just thought "Shephard isn't big enough to make that sort of choice". If the future of intelligent life in the galaxy is to become partly Synthetic we should arrive at that point under our own steam otherwise, like you said, we are just developing along the path that the Reapers - and by extension the Catalyst's - desire.

It doesn't just include Plants and Bacteria. It also includes inanimate objects like Joker's hat. It rewrites everything. With Space Magic. Cause Space Ponies [Sins of a Solar Empire Reference FTW]. And crap.

[Delta_S]

I didn't know you could walk up to the sides of the platform, so I just went straight ahead.

[Joccaren]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

darkhorsedan72 wrote...
 only  valid reason I can see for choosing Synthesis is that you completely believe what the Starchild is saying, 

I chose synth, and yes i did believe everything he told me. 

Why?

Because your are forced to take him at his word. In that the game made a huge error. 

If the star child can lie, then why would i believe him when he says shooting this red thing would kill all the reapers and himself. Why would it tell me how to kill it. Why could it not be lying about destroy, and be trying to get you to blow up the power conduit on the right that feeds power to the console on the left, which is where you could make your actual choices from. 

See, to engage the scene at all you have to assume the catalyst is telling the truth, there in lies the true problem with the ending. 

Yeah, there is honestly nothing you can do if you don't believe him:
-Shoot a power conduit that will likely blow up and damage the Crucible
-Suicide Jump into a beam of energy [I would laugh if Shepard missed or couldn't make it and just fell out into space instead. That would be funny]
-Grab hold of a couple of things that even look like they've got over 9,000W of power running through them.

WTF are you meant to do?

[darkhorsedan72]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

darkhorsedan72 wrote...
 only  valid reason I can see for choosing Synthesis is that you completely believe what the Starchild is saying, 

I chose synth, and yes i did believe everything he told me. 

Why?

Because your are forced to take him at his word. In that the game made a huge error. 

If the star child can lie, then why would i believe him when he says shooting this red thing would kill all the reapers and himself. Why would it tell me how to kill it. Why could it not be lying about destroy, and be trying to get you to blow up the power conduit on the right that feeds power to the console on the left, which is where you could make your actual choices from. 

See, to engage the scene at all you have to assume the catalyst is telling the truth, there in lies the true problem with the ending. 

Okay, maybe when I use words like 'believe what the Catalyst is saying', I don't mean to say I think it's lying. I suppose it would be more clear to say "do you agree with the Starchild's assertion that synthetic life will certainly wipe out all organic life in the galaxy". 

[Candidate 88766]

The chance to stop organics ageing and succumbing to disease whilst also granting synthetic beings true 'life'? Sounds pretty good to me.

In the ME universe, people are getting augmented all the time. It is inevitable that eventually synthetic and organic life will become virtually indistinguishable.

Synthesis also provides the best hope for the future: its logical to assume that organics will become more intelligent as a result and this, combined with the now friendly Reapers, means technological advances will come thick and fast. Plus, problems such as starvation etc in the aftermath of the war will be gone.

My main problem is that it seems to work by magic though.

[Ieldra]

Because if you take the Catalyst at face value, it is a good ending. It avoids genocide and actually makes peace with the Reapers, who are after all the collective minds of countless species. Destroying them or enslaving them is undesirable. All knowledge contained in them will be lost forever if you destroy them. As for what exactly the Synthesis does and more about why I think it is a good ending, see my Synthesis thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/10515916

[Ieldra]

@Candidate 88766:
Do you mind if I quote your post in my thread?