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[Doodledorf]

aquamutt wrote...

L00p wrote...

Strange, he should be banned weeks ago with such behavior. What's up with that, is he PAID or something?

funny you should say this found a rather intresting read about ea paying ppl to be trolls
www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Viral-Marketing-Exposed-Big-Buyout-Horizon-40885.html

The fact both he an L00p were banned shows that such is not true.

Though not sure what your comment has to do with the topic....

[Texhnolyze101]

sorentoft wrote...

I'm sorry, I do not care about those people. I do care that the product I purchased actually works as described.

^ This i don't give a damn about those people at all i don't know any of them and i don't live over there i have no reason to suddenly go "oh my god those poor people D:"

[Canned Bullets]

As cruel as it may seem people stopped caring about Haiti and like most real life disasters people stop caring about them in two weeks.

[Baine10]

Canned Bullets wrote...

As cruel as it may seem people stopped caring about Haiti and like most real life disasters people stop caring about them in two weeks.

Only because they realized the single person, even when banded in a group, was powerless to change the situation. Only the people "in power" can change it.

[Rynocerous]

biggest_loser wrote...

I am here to argue that people on this board need to desperately move on with their lives or more specifically realise how trivial pursuing this is when we consider some of the problems being faced in the greater scheme of the world. 

Just consider for a moment what real suffering and what real world problems are: 

I present to you Haiti: 

http://www.smh.com.a...0404-1wd2c.html 

"In the 17 months since Pelette was buried, cholera has killed more than 7050 Haitians and sickened more than 531,000, or 5 per cent of the population".

While you are willing to spend your time and money to try and change a video game, after the developer has already said they're not going to change it, people in the (real) world don't even have clean drinking water.

Another quote from the article:

"He knew the river water was probably not safe, he said, but, while they brushed their teeth in it, they did not swallow. For drinking water, Louis said, his family relies on a local well. But he lives from hand to mouth and cannot afford water purification tablets. So he gambles".

Consider that while you and your lawyer sit down for a discussion about Shephard there are people in Europe who are unemployed at staggering new figures: 

"
Spain, whose government announced another raft of austerity measures last Friday, had the highest unemployment rate in the eurozone of 23.6 per cent, with youth unemployment - those under 25 years of age - standing at 50.5 per cent" 

http://www.heraldsun...o-1226317326819 

Its time for Bioware fans to look outside the bubble and realise that there are more important things going on in the world. Yes you might have spent many hours on this game but that was your choice. There are greater problems in the world that we can spend our time, attention and resources on than a crappy video game ending. Bioware fans I call on you to lay down your arms and have some empathy for the people who are truly suffering! 

I'm afraid your argument makes zero logical sense.

The very ugly and cold truth is that altruistic care about people who I will never meet, who will never have any impact on my life, and who are ultimately numbers on a computer screen, is just as much as a waste of time as venting over a video game or having an emotional breakdown over a girlfriend/boyfriend or blowing $1500 on spinners and rims.

You seem to fail to realize that these things you describe have been going on for some time. And you ignore the reality of the situation. The Haitians are in the situation they are in for one reason and one reason only , the complete and totaly lack of resource or developable population due to cultural values. Haiti has nothing other nations want. The lack of drinking water and issues of health and , indeed, issues with both cholera and hospital availability, were being brought up ten years ago and the Haitian government did LESS than nothing.

I am not responsible and refuse to care about the suffering of people who have allowed themselves to become victims. 

As far as Spain goes, I'm sorry but this is what you get after 30 years of arrogantly ignoring economic trends and borrowing against an increasingly devalued monetary system.

There is always someone who implies that I cannot simply focus on what is actually of some IMPACT in my life and must instead focus on things elsewhere. You are not suggesting thing because you CARE about Haiti or Spain. You are not suggesting thing because you CARE about people helping people. You are doing this only and solely because you are using these people's suffering to win an ARGUMENT about video games. You are, quite frankly, even worse than the people you are yelling at, because at least I'm honest when I say I don't really care.

Humanity never ceases to amaze. And disgust.

[robarcool]

We don't like the ending and we won't change our opinion. If you think that is wrong, then that's your thinking OP.
In addition, we don't like the ending because we care about the game (not that those who like it don't care). But caring about a game doesn't mean we don't care about what is going on in the world. So your logic seems absurd.

Modifié par robarcool, 06 avril 2012 - 04:54 .

[Immer Rastrelly]

Its time for Bioware fans to look outside the bubble and realise that there are more important things going on in the world. Yes you might have spent many hours on this game but that was your choice. There are greater problems in the world that we can spend our time, attention and resources on than a crappy video game ending. Bioware fans I call on you to lay down your arms and have some empathy for the people who are truly suffering!

The only important thing for me is my money, which I could send to those Haitians or spend them on other game. Hell, I could buy two A.Asimov golden collection books! But I paid money for this game. And I want it to be a product that brings me pleasure, not annoyance. Quite simple.

[BewareofCrisps]

Thank you for your opinion, OP. Your opinion is highly valued and we are listening to your feedback.
We have 3 words for you in the mean time.

Hold
the
Line

[Doodledorf]

BewareofCrisps wrote...

Thank you for your opinion, OP. Your opinion is highly valued and we are listening to your feedback.
We have 3 words for you in the mean time.

Hold
the
Line

I bet if you did a new poll to find out how many are actually still holding the line it would show very few compared to the original 60k group poll that started it, pushed it to exist in a larger scale.

Modifié par Doodledorf, 06 avril 2012 - 05:00 .

[Il Divo]

biggest_loser wrote...

Its time for Bioware fans to look outside the bubble and realise that there are more important things going on in the world. Yes you might have spent many hours on this game but that was your choice. There are greater problems in the world that we can spend our time, attention and resources on than a crappy video game ending. Bioware fans I call on you to lay down your arms and have some empathy for the people who are truly suffering! 

Then I recommend you log off the BSN and start solving those problems, given your emphathy. What I do with my time is my choice. Unless you're out there playing humanitarian, this thread is far more useless than any criticism Bioware has received thusfar.

[Justin2k]

For the most part the ending haters aren't Bioware fans. They're just people that come here to bash EA for buying up some of their favorite studios. Most of them will move on shortly and come back to bash Dragon Age. And most of them would be complaining about something else if the ending is fine.

This is nothing new here. Bioware "fans" are more whiny than even Sonic the hedgehog fans for the most part.

Anyone who goes out of their way to destroy a franchise or a companies reputation is not really a fan.

Modifié par Justin2k, 06 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[RocketManSR2]

Turbotanden wrote...

Say you bought a new car. They gave you a car without breaks. When you complain you are called whiney and childish for feeling "entitled". The car company finally agrees to give you a gearbox that allows you to engine break a little more efficiently. If you are unhappy with this solution then you are obviously not considering the fact that some people in this world are starving while you actually have a car.

It's more like complaining the brakes you got on the car weren't the ones you wanted and you demand that the dealer replace them with high end racing brakes. They don't have to. 

- It's also silly to compare a safety issue with a video game. Brakes are a requirement on all vehicles.

- Continuing with this silly comparison, the dealer offers you a compromise. They'll give you a discount on after market brakes that you can have put on your new car after you buy it. Would you throw a tantrum and storm out, or accept the offer?

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 06 avril 2012 - 05:18 .

[robarcool]

Justin2k wrote...

For the most part the ending haters aren't Bioware fans. They're just people that come here to bash EA for buying up some of their favorite studios. Most of them will move on shortly and come back to bash Dragon Age. And most of them would be complaining about something else if the ending is fine.

This is nothing new here. Bioware "fans" are more whiny than even Sonic the hedgehog fans for the most part.

Anyone who goes out of their way to destroy a franchise or a companies reputation is not really a fan.

Meet the oracle!

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

The "You should not care because there are worst things in this word" is stupid, because if one should only care about something when there is nothing worst in this world, then one should not care about anything around him:
You lost your job? Why do you care? Everyday girls are tortured, raped and drugged until their will is weakened enough to be sold as sex slaves.
One just have to do the right things around him to make the world a better place, not to worry about everything horrible which happens all around the world.

Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 06 avril 2012 - 05:09 .

[alienatedflea]

these whiney little shats will biatch about nothing...they don't have a life...if they had any balls they would sell their game and GTFO and move on...but they dont..they talk alot of smack but they wont do anything in the end...

[Immer Rastrelly]

they would sell their game and GTFO

Just tell me how to sell a RU-only copy linked to my Origin account. I'll sell it immediately.

[robarcool]

alienatedflea wrote...

these whiney little shats will biatch about nothing...they don't have a life...if they had any balls they would sell their game and GTFO and move on...but they dont..they talk alot of smack but they wont do anything in the end...

Well, they did raise charity and sent cupcakes. So I guess they definitely do something.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

alienatedflea wrote...
these whiney little shats will biatch about nothing...they don't have a life...if they had any balls they would sell their game and GTFO and move on...but they dont..they talk alot of smack but they wont do anything in the end...

Watch your words, because talking about "balls" when at the same time insulting people on a forum really doesn't gets along...
Besides, which game should I sell when I'm already "holding the line" since DA2 (which I didn't buyed too)? Still, I played friend's copy of the game.

[xxskyshadowxx]

Turbotanden wrote...

Say you bought a new car. They gave you a car without breaks. When you complain you are called whiney and childish for feeling "entitled". The car company finally agrees to give you a gearbox that allows you to engine break a little more efficiently. If you are unhappy with this solution then you are obviously not considering the fact that some people in this world are starving while you actually have a car.

[biggest_loser]

jedi.flow wrote...

Turbotanden wrote...

Say you bought a new car. They gave you a car without breaks. When you complain you are called whiney and childish for feeling "entitled". The car company finally agrees to give you a gearbox that allows you to engine break a little more efficiently. If you are unhappy with this solution then you are obviously not considering the fact that some people in this world are starving while you actually have a car.

A car without brakes can kill you and others. A bad video game ending cannot.

Exactly. Its not like the game is broken or you can't finish it. 

Its not a technical fault. Its one of taste. 

[ShinsFortress]

Rynocerous wrote...

biggest_loser wrote...

I am here to argue that people on this board need to desperately move on with their lives or more specifically realise how trivial pursuing this is when we consider some of the problems being faced in the greater scheme of the world. 

Just consider for a moment what real suffering and what real world problems are: 

I present to you Haiti: 

http://www.smh.com.a...0404-1wd2c.html 

"In the 17 months since Pelette was buried, cholera has killed more than 7050 Haitians and sickened more than 531,000, or 5 per cent of the population".

While you are willing to spend your time and money to try and change a video game, after the developer has already said they're not going to change it, people in the (real) world don't even have clean drinking water.

Another quote from the article:

"He knew the river water was probably not safe, he said, but, while they brushed their teeth in it, they did not swallow. For drinking water, Louis said, his family relies on a local well. But he lives from hand to mouth and cannot afford water purification tablets. So he gambles".

Consider that while you and your lawyer sit down for a discussion about Shephard there are people in Europe who are unemployed at staggering new figures: 

"
Spain, whose government announced another raft of austerity measures last Friday, had the highest unemployment rate in the eurozone of 23.6 per cent, with youth unemployment - those under 25 years of age - standing at 50.5 per cent" 

http://www.heraldsun...o-1226317326819 

Its time for Bioware fans to look outside the bubble and realise that there are more important things going on in the world. Yes you might have spent many hours on this game but that was your choice. There are greater problems in the world that we can spend our time, attention and resources on than a crappy video game ending. Bioware fans I call on you to lay down your arms and have some empathy for the people who are truly suffering! 

I'm afraid your argument makes zero logical sense.

The very ugly and cold truth is that altruistic care about people who I will never meet, who will never have any impact on my life, and who are ultimately numbers on a computer screen, is just as much as a waste of time as venting over a video game or having an emotional breakdown over a girlfriend/boyfriend or blowing $1500 on spinners and rims.

You seem to fail to realize that these things you describe have been going on for some time. And you ignore the reality of the situation. The Haitians are in the situation they are in for one reason and one reason only , the complete and totaly lack of resource or developable population due to cultural values. Haiti has nothing other nations want. The lack of drinking water and issues of health and , indeed, issues with both cholera and hospital availability, were being brought up ten years ago and the Haitian government did LESS than nothing.

I am not responsible and refuse to care about the suffering of people who have allowed themselves to become victims. 

As far as Spain goes, I'm sorry but this is what you get after 30 years of arrogantly ignoring economic trends and borrowing against an increasingly devalued monetary system.

There is always someone who implies that I cannot simply focus on what is actually of some IMPACT in my life and must instead focus on things elsewhere. You are not suggesting thing because you CARE about Haiti or Spain. You are not suggesting thing because you CARE about people helping people. You are doing this only and solely because you are using these people's suffering to win an ARGUMENT about video games. You are, quite frankly, even worse than the people you are yelling at, because at least I'm honest when I say I don't really care.

Humanity never ceases to amaze. And disgust.

*nod*

[Il Divo]

biggest_loser wrote...

Exactly. Its not like the game is broken or you can't finish it. 

Its not a technical fault. Its one of taste. 

From the perspective of the consumer, the distinction is irrelevant. The question to ask is fairly straightforward: did the product entertain? If the answer is no, whether it was broken or simply bad quality is irrelevant, it didn't live up to its purpose.

And no, this is not an endorsement of using subjective measures of quality to claim false advertising.

Modifié par Il Divo, 07 avril 2012 - 12:46 .

[biggest_loser]

Il Divo wrote...

biggest_loser wrote...

Exactly. Its not like the game is broken or you can't finish it. 

Its not a technical fault. Its one of taste. 

From the perspective of the consumer, the distinction is irrelevant. The question to ask is fairly straightforward: did the product entertain? If the answer is no, whether it was broken or simply bad quality is irrelevant, it didn't live up to its purpose.

And no, this is not an endorsement of using subjective measures of quality to claim false advertising.

Good luck trying to hold that up before the jury! 

[batlin]

I find it hilarious how the OP feels the need to compare ME3's ending to a plague.

If ME3's ending as bad as a plague? No. Does that mean a plague is the baseline for all things people can get upset by? No.

Modifié par batlin, 07 avril 2012 - 12:53 .