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[Oldbones2]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

 

Justin's banner is well deserved because to many of shepards fan's are glad about his death, i do not think that he is a true fan.

Shepard doesn't die lol.  You obviously didn't understand the ending.

/facedesk.

Must be I didn't see Shepard disintegrate/explode/vaporize.

Also the catalyst must have been wrong about the Crucible killing Shepard no matter what. 

Wonder what else he was wrong about.

[Oldbones2]

DevilBeast wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

I think this clarifying DLC is a way to entice Retakers to buy future DLC (Omega, Map packs and such).

While some people think admitting they made a mistake is a weakness, I have always held that it is one of the bravest and most classy things a person can do.

And punishing other departments like the DA team, because of what the ME team did is classy too??

Dragon Age 2 was hardly a gem in my eyes.

And as I said before.  ME 3's ending sadened me, but it only convinced me that I need to be more careful about my purchases and never pre order again.

Then came the Bioware's response to their fans.

That made me made.  That made it personal.

If other branches have to be punished for Ray M.'s and other Bioware execs. actions then so be it.

Actually, I quite enjoyed DA2. But i´m not really a Dragon Age fan and as such I don´t think my opinon count as much in that department.

Still, the whole "punish all for the actions of few" does not seem very wise IMO.
But hey, you do whatever you want with your money. Personally, I buy a game if I think it´s a great game, no matter which company made it.

Whether it is wise is irrelevant.  It is certainly petty and pointless, but its what I'm going to do.

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...
Shepard doesn't die lol.  You obviously didn't understand the ending.

The "well you just didn't understand it" defense is laughable.

Shepard usually dies. In at least one, Shepard very much does die and there's no question about it, in another, Shepard dies unless you have a high EMS and you see a half second inhale. In the last one, in might be a big more debateable but the Starchild still says you die.

Destroy should kill you much like pulling life support. Of course with all the plot holes floating around the ending anything could happen. But Shepard should either be killed on the spot, or die soon after because of circumstances.

Please save yourself the trouble.

The one ending where Shepard is even hinted at living is the destroy ending with 4000/5000 EMS which forces the player to engage in multiplayer (not to mention how many fleets you recruit affecting Shep surviving a technological Armageddon makes no sense)

Also leaves open what happens to other people with cybernetic implants.  Like, say, the quarians.  Or virtually every biotic in existence.

[aeonlifestream]

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...
Shepard doesn't die lol.  You obviously didn't understand the ending.

The "well you just didn't understand it" defense is laughable.

Shepard usually dies. In at least one, Shepard very much does die and there's no question about it, in another, Shepard dies unless you have a high EMS and you see a half second inhale. In the last one, in might be a big more debateable but the Starchild still says you die.

Destroy should kill you much like pulling life support. Of course with all the plot holes floating around the ending anything could happen. But Shepard should either be killed on the spot, or die soon after because of circumstances.

Please save yourself the trouble.

The one ending where Shepard is even hinted at living is the destroy ending with 4000/5000 EMS which forces the player to engage in multiplayer (not to mention how many fleets you recruit affecting Shep surviving a technological Armageddon makes no sense)

Also leaves open what happens to other people with cybernetic implants.  Like, say, the quarians.  Or virtually every biotic in existence.

Even more odd since no explanation is given on how Shepard could survive, with the starchild having told him "you are partly synthetic".

[DashRunner92]

Justin2k wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...

Because they have hope? Because they want to continue to get that message out to ensure it doesn't happen again, and because they are still dissatisfied customers.

You sure do make a whole lot of threads telling people to "get over it".

Because it is quite clearly over.  Most of your 60k or whatever are satisfied now, Bioware have stated whats going to happen.  There is nothing left to "win". 

It just seems pointless to go on ruining the forums for the real fans.

Real fans don't just sit there and accept that one of their favorite franchises just took a skydive. 

[DevilBeast]

slyguy200 wrote...

 

Justin's banner is well deserved because to many of shepards fan's are glad about his/her death, i do not think that he is a true fan.

The whole point of Christianity is that Jesus died to save mankind from its sins. I guess Christians aren´t fan of Jesus either.

And yes, Shepard is basically the messiah of the ME universe.

[Farbautisonn]

Oldbones2 wrote...

Must be I didn't see Shepard disintegrate/explode/vaporize.

Also the catalyst must have been wrong about the Crucible killing Shepard no matter what. 

Wonder what else he was wrong about.

-You just dont undestand Biowares "artistic vision" ™. Its obvious that Justin does...

[Hyrist]

DevilBeast wrote...

Actually, I quite enjoyed DA2. But i´m not really a Dragon Age fan and as such I don´t think my opinon count as much in that department.

Still, the whole "punish all for the actions of few" does not seem very wise IMO.
But hey, you do whatever you want with your money. Personally, I buy a game if I think it´s a great game, no matter which company made it.

I bought it, played it for a while, and ultimately dropped it. The story felt too plastered and the combat was faster, but felt far less tactical than the previous game. Let alone the sence of wonder and exploration just seemed not to be there - thought that had more to do with the same re-used dungeons than the static setting. 

I wish I could say I liked the game more, but the truth is I haven't even bought any more than the initial DLC. And I'm a fan of Felicia Day.

As far as pushing the whole for the actions of the few. Generalization works a bit differently in the world of buisness than in the world of argument. If someone wants to rally under the name of a business, their actions as individuals represent the whole, particuarlly consitering that whole is placed under the same general rules and restrictions - where as loosely collected social groups cannot maintain that level of order. If they wish to rally under the strenghts of that Business Name, they must also all suffer under the weaknesses of them.

Now, I did not hesitate a moment buying ME3 after my disappointment of DA2. The disapointment in ME3's ending has thus far told me I was mistaken doing that.

Now BioWare still has an oppertunity to make some amends here, but I do beleive my next purchase from them will be done with a lot more caution and hesitation even after the amends are made. If they blow me off as a customer as some sort of fringe element, then that hestitation will be a flat out boycott. 

[Grammarye]

I like how one person gets to judge whether someone is a real fan or not.

Arguably the real fans are those who have stuck by Bioware for more than a decade, and perhaps can judge for themselves, rather than relying on the great Justin to decide what everyone must think.

Hint: At no point is sharing another's opinion a requirement to be either a fan or not.

Modifié par Grammarye, 06 avril 2012 - 07:28 .

[Dridengx]

Justin2k wrote...

Tangster wrote...

arial wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...
You sure do make a whole lot of threads telling people to "get over it".

we don't make enough, the majority of these "Fold the ******* line" people are all talk and no action. they said if they don't get what they want they will leave these forums. well they didn't, but they are still on these forums, which shows Bioware they are full of nothing but empty threats, which causes them to ignore the entire movement

I never said I'd leave the forum.

I just said I would be very unlikely to buy further bioware DLC/Games/Merchendise, unless at a significant discount and has good user reviews.

Which begs the question, why stay around a forum based on games you don't play and a company you do not support?

This is pretty much evidence that the Retake people are very little other than trolls and troublemakers that try to gatecrash all the other threads.

If you don't like the company or the games, you should just walk away so the real fans can enjoy.

It does appear that way doesn't it?

[DevilBeast]

Oldbones2 wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

I think this clarifying DLC is a way to entice Retakers to buy future DLC (Omega, Map packs and such).

While some people think admitting they made a mistake is a weakness, I have always held that it is one of the bravest and most classy things a person can do.

And punishing other departments like the DA team, because of what the ME team did is classy too??

Dragon Age 2 was hardly a gem in my eyes.

And as I said before.  ME 3's ending sadened me, but it only convinced me that I need to be more careful about my purchases and never pre order again.

Then came the Bioware's response to their fans.

That made me made.  That made it personal.

If other branches have to be punished for Ray M.'s and other Bioware execs. actions then so be it.

Actually, I quite enjoyed DA2. But i´m not really a Dragon Age fan and as such I don´t think my opinon count as much in that department.

Still, the whole "punish all for the actions of few" does not seem very wise IMO.
But hey, you do whatever you want with your money. Personally, I buy a game if I think it´s a great game, no matter which company made it.

Whether it is wise is irrelevant.  It is certainly petty and pointless, but its what I'm going to do.

Well, I won´t stop you then

[DashRunner92]

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

[Iakus]

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

If I have to crete the ending myself, I want a writing credit.

And a check from Bioware.

[Hyrist]

DevilBeast wrote...

The whole point of Christianity is that Jesus died to save mankind from its sins. I guess Christians aren´t fan of Jesus either.

And yes, Shepard is basically the messiah of the ME universe.

According to Christianity, Christ is supposed to make a return in the end-times.

I don't think Shepard is going to be doing that - seeming he alraedy achieved the rank of Space-Jesus when Cerberus brought him back from the dead.

Sadly... now you've reminded me of another Sci-fi epic that ended on a sour note: The Matrix.

You'd think producers would learn from the mistakes of their predecessors. 

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

If I have to crete the ending myself, I want a writing credit.

And a check from Bioware.

This.

[BeefoTheBold]

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

Yes, clearly you have moved on as evidenced by your entering threads and being a total hypocrite by insulting other customers and calling them morons.

I honestly have to laugh that you failed to see the irony in your condescending statement.

[NickelToe]

Justin2k wrote...

Tangster wrote...

arial wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...
You sure do make a whole lot of threads telling people to "get over it".

we don't make enough, the majority of these "Fold the ******* line" people are all talk and no action. they said if they don't get what they want they will leave these forums. well they didn't, but they are still on these forums, which shows Bioware they are full of nothing but empty threats, which causes them to ignore the entire movement

I never said I'd leave the forum.

I just said I would be very unlikely to buy further bioware DLC/Games/Merchendise, unless at a significant discount and has good user reviews.

Which begs the question, why stay around a forum based on games you don't play and a company you do not support?

This is pretty much evidence that the Retake people are very little other than trolls and troublemakers that try to gatecrash all the other threads.

If you don't like the company or the games, you should just walk away so the real fans can enjoy.

Real fans criticize bad decisions.  People who agree with companies and governements no matter what are akin to members of a cult there is no reasoning with it.  You support Fortune 500 companies over you fellow fans by drawing lines.

You trying to get anyone to leave is a joke and just shows that if people dont agree with the things you do then they are invalid.   Bioware did give a finger at the fans here.  You love it, but you would have not lost anything if they came through on what they advertised, more than A, B, C endings.  You still would have this hipster ending, but the rest would have also been able to get what they paid for.

Stop trying to push folks away it shows your lack of character.  There are loyal fans then there are people that want the world to shut up so only their Pulpit Preaching can be heard.  Which are you?

[Justin2k]

DashRunner92 wrote...

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

Oh wow, did you just compare 10 minutes of a video game to thousands of people dying? 

[BeefoTheBold]

Justin2k wrote...

DashRunner92 wrote...

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

Oh wow, did you just compare 10 minutes of a video game to thousands of people dying? 

No, the person made a joke and showed that a very bad ending can totally ruin the entire journey.

[Justin2k]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

DashRunner92 wrote...

aeonlifestream wrote...

I'm here honestly to laugh at the self entitlement some users think they deserve.

Here's an idea; if you don't like the ending, make up your own instead of insulting the company with petty insults, making moronic statements and generally making a fool of yourself. I don't like the ending, but I moved on and honestly am eager to see the Extended Cut.

Oh wow, did you just compare 10 minutes of a video game to thousands of people dying? 

No, the person made a joke and showed that a very bad ending can totally ruin the entire journey.

Lol, no, you are comparing 10 minutes of a video game to a boat crashing into an iceberg and killing thousands of people.

You really really really really need to get a grip on your life and priorities.  Titanic crash was more serious than ME3 ok?  Jesus, some people.

[Vincent Rosevalliant]

OP askes why are you still here:

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT APOLOGIZED FOR LYING, YET