Justin2k wrote...
You good sir are extremely articulated, well mannered and well thought out.
You also have registered pretty much every recent Bioware game and you are obviously a concerned fan. I have nothing but respect for you and your opinion.
The majority of the Retake people are not like you at all however. The majority post hateful messages over and over again. They are not articulate. Look at the negative responses in the first page of this thread, almost none of them have registered any Bioware games besides ME2.
You seem to say I am in the minority and neglecting to notice that there is a big difference between concerned fans like yourself, and the majority of the retake movement which are simply trolls from 4chan or wherever who come here to cause upset and hate on EA as they do for every EA product. The same people came when DA2 was released.
It is those people, and not people like yourself, that are causing the problems on the forums and it is those people that I was addressing. The people who have no constructive arguments but "do what i want, do it for free and do it now or i will leave".
The boards would be a better place without them.
There are several points I wish to touch on in responce to this, in which it might be difficult to do in one post, so please bear with me.
First off, thank you for your compliments. But I would like to remind you that the rule of the internet applies. Many of these people who you generalize, when spoke on the level, may well be very civil, very thoughtful individiuals that are simply misuing the forums as a vent for their frustrations at the ending. I know your experience may have differed, but I found the ending to be highly disheartening, and I to went through the stages of grief during this.
Many people in support of this have difficulty adaquately expressing this, again, I'm seeing examples of this on both sides of the debate which gives me pause when you chose to generalize only one side of this. To put the shoe on the other foot, you have, by reptuation, been viewed as a troll - however, it could be that you're just venting your own frustration and desire for some peace and organization within the forums? Could your negative connotations towards the ReTake movement in general not be simply a symptom of that frustration?
Emotions are still high, it's only been a month and BioWare has done little to aleviate the feelings of those really tied in. In fact, I would argue that their statments have done more to galvanize those in convincing that there is a growing gap between BioWare and its fans. This perception may or may not be in error, but BioWare's statments have not eased the tention in this matter.
I, for one, have not yet heard any word as to the reason they took multiple endings off the table. From my perspective this felt like a plausable compromise and for it to be blatantly and callously shut down is further upsetting. Just as perhaps the insult slung at you further reinforce your negative views on ReTakkers in general.
But I digress.
Another note I wish to touch on is that of 'registered games'. To be honest, BioWare is the first company I've ever done the 'registered games' option with, and I've still not registered my second full copy of Dragon Age Origins that came with the expansion (I don't plan to either, I'm sure I've lost the paper.) But I question you using someone's registered games as grounds of determining if they are concerned customers, or ranting trolls.
There are many reasons why a game can be chosen not to be registered. In the case of those only having ME2 registered. For example: One who isn't a fan of fantasy would not touch Dragon Age - and could simply not register ME3 out of protest. Without the ability to register Mass Effect 1 or any games before that, you can't really gague on how long of a fan they were. (I really only became interested in BioWare from the iteration of Mass Effect 1 on, as I was primarily a Console gamer up until around that time.)
In the end, the point I wish to relay is, although you are going to wind up with people that misbehave everywhere, (To be honest, this level of conduct is actually common in most public communities these days) it should not regard our means of seperating each person out as individuals, instead of just prejudging them based on the group they support.
After all, would I have been paid that compliment, had I not paused to attempt to dispel your reputation as a Pro-ending fan, or you not taken the time to read my long-winded posts?
I do beleive that moderation should be a bit more strict when handeling those that misbehave, on both sides. However, regardless of that, we should not let the climate color our judgment as adults. After all, we know very little about those on the other side of the screen.
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