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[Athlonis1]

No sympathy for him. He made his choices and is refusing to own up to his mistakes.

[BigZ7337]

Eh, he lied to us, so no I don't feel sorry for him. I mean there's a chance he didn't know the game was gonna go against everything he said in pre-release publicity, but I doubt it. Plus even if he didn't know how ME3 was going to end, he still mislead the fans.

[Chris-1983]

Why should I feel sorry for him? He lied directly into our face with a smile and is responsible for this horrible ending. I hope this debacle will have negative consequences for his career. At least I won`t buy any game where he is involved with.

[ambroseaz]

Feel sorry for him, are you f@*king kidding me??? The guy just pulled off the biggest heist in gaming history. He just convinced hundreds of thousands of die hard dedicated fans to shell out gobs of cash, then day one dlc, then broke every single promise made regarding the expectations of Mass Effect 3. The only way his life could be any sweeter is if lemmings paid him to cliff-dive.

[Hudathan]

I like Casey Hudson because I like Mass Effect.

[bkp360]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending.  He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him.  It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.

he turned his back on us to further his bloated ego and then pissed on us with his 'artistic integrity' crap.  No no pity for Casey.  And my smile will return when EA/BioWare realizes they need someone to pay....

[Vasparian]

Hudathan wrote...

I like Casey Hudson because I like Mass Effect.

You do realize how asinine what you said is yes?

[Kadi]

[quote]boardnfool86 wrote...

I do, ME is the most ambitious project in gaming, and was executed well enough to get better overall scores with each entry into the series. Its too bad its going largely unappreciated by fans because the ending of 3 was unsatisfactory. (make no mistake, there is a difference between "unsatisfactory" and truly bad)[/quote

Agreed, wellsaid, Sure I was unsatisfied with the Cg part of the ending, and after the game ive invested time into the Indoctrination Theory, though im not sure what to expect, though the indoc theory is cool, its not bioware who have come out and said *the Indoc theory is what we intended* making it non cannon, and jst speculation on our part. but the game itself is great, plays awesomely, i had only few bugs in my playthrough *getting stuck on obsticles*  being the main and worse one, i truly enjoyed it, the voice acting from the cast was great, and the music was lush, and overall graphically i thought it was verygood, mayb enot uncharted 3, or Crysis ( dont really know what ppl callithe best looking game graphically) but the best part was Story. i loved it through out.

So yeah i feel sorry for him, as ME3 had ALOT to live upto, not just in our hearts n minds, but in retrospect to the previous games, and Sci-fi gaming in general.

I am hoping the new ending were getting is going to be, enough to satisfy me, but im still ticked off that it wasnt already satisfying as it should have been.

[bkp360]

Vengilus wrote...

I'd really like to, because I can somewhat relate. I know what it's like to have an idea that I personally feel is brilliant and that people will love. I know what it's like to actualize that idea only to have it blow up in my face. To have to go and try to explain why I felt it was so amazing in the first place, hoping that people will see what I was going for.

Unfortunately, though, I cannot feel sorry for him. Even though I know that situation and have utmost respect for anyone trying to pull it off, I also know to take ownership of my errors and see where I went wrong. To admit that the ideas I had, while perhaps still brilliant and artistic, had nothing to do with the original intentions and theme of the story I was attempting to tell.

Only a self indulgent fool full of hubris and a bloated ego would think Star Jar Binks was a good ending.  Casey betrayed us, but he betrayed his own chance at a masterpeice when he fell into his own pit of grandiosity

[Vasparian]

DannieCraft wrote...

I believe Casey have sacrificed serious amount of time in office hours with Mass Effect. More than many fans realise. But if all he heard and saw was the complaints, he wouldn't be able to continue doing what he does. I think he is focusing on the positive feedback instead. Rather than feeling sorry for him, I am just supporting him in his vision.

His vision of lying to the fans he says he listens to? His vision of resorting to pointless hype that is nothing more than spin? Yeah, that vision sure is something that should be supported. 

[Vasparian]

[quote]Eleventhchild wrote...

[quote]boardnfool86 wrote...

I do, ME is the most ambitious project in gaming, and was executed well enough to get better overall scores with each entry into the series. Its too bad its going largely unappreciated by fans because the ending of 3 was unsatisfactory. (make no mistake, there is a difference between "unsatisfactory" and truly bad)[/quote

Agreed, wellsaid, Sure I was unsatisfied with the Cg part of the ending, and after the game ive invested time into the Indoctrination Theory, though im not sure what to expect, though the indoc theory is cool, its not bioware who have come out and said *the Indoc theory is what we intended* making it non cannon, and jst speculation on our part. but the game itself is great, plays awesomely, i had only few bugs in my playthrough *getting stuck on obsticles*  being the main and worse one, i truly enjoyed it, the voice acting from the cast was great, and the music was lush, and overall graphically i thought it was verygood, mayb enot uncharted 3, or Crysis ( dont really know what ppl callithe best looking game graphically) but the best part was Story. i loved it through out.

So yeah i feel sorry for him, as ME3 had ALOT to live upto, not just in our hearts n minds, but in retrospect to the previous games, and Sci-fi gaming in general.

I am hoping the new ending were getting is going to be, enough to satisfy me, but im still ticked off that it wasnt already satisfying as it should have been.


[/quote]

There is no NEW ending. you people need to stop saying that garbage. They are not changing a damn thing. 

[AwesomeDudex64]

Does a rape victim feel sorry for their predator? No, so why should I?

[Kadi]

[quote]Vasparian wrote...

[quote]Eleventhchild wrote...

[quote]boardnfool86 wrote...

I do, ME is the most ambitious project in gaming, and was executed well enough to get better overall scores with each entry into the series. Its too bad its going largely unappreciated by fans because the ending of 3 was unsatisfactory. (make no mistake, there is a difference between "unsatisfactory" and truly bad)[/quote

Agreed, wellsaid, Sure I was unsatisfied with the Cg part of the ending, and after the game ive invested time into the Indoctrination Theory, though im not sure what to expect, though the indoc theory is cool, its not bioware who have come out and said *the Indoc theory is what we intended* making it non cannon, and jst speculation on our part. but the game itself is great, plays awesomely, i had only few bugs in my playthrough *getting stuck on obsticles*  being the main and worse one, i truly enjoyed it, the voice acting from the cast was great, and the music was lush, and overall graphically i thought it was verygood, mayb enot uncharted 3, or Crysis ( dont really know what ppl callithe best looking game graphically) but the best part was Story. i loved it through out.

So yeah i feel sorry for him, as ME3 had ALOT to live upto, not just in our hearts n minds, but in retrospect to the previous games, and Sci-fi gaming in general.

I am hoping the new ending were getting is going to be, enough to satisfy me, but im still ticked off that it wasnt already satisfying as it should have been.


[/quote]

There is no NEW ending. you people need to stop saying that garbage. They are not changing a damn thing. 

[/quote]

1: if my opinion is garbage, then DO NOT read it.
2: we are getting a new ending in that free DLC, its new reguardless of whether or not it is just a cutscene or a block of text.

when i ask for satisfaction i ask for post ending closure,  to answer my questions, if they can.

[Oldbones2]

No, OP, the what I feel for Casey Hudson is the same as what he feels for me.

Cold contempt that edges into bitter rage.

[JPN17]

No I don't. One of the main reasons for all this backlash is the list of promises made by Hudson that turned out to be lies. There's only one person to blame for that.

[mpgeist]

He used to be one of my favorite industry people. Now I just think of him as a liar. So, no, I don't feel sorry for him.

[Keldon Northwind]

The Liar who promised a grand ending to ME3? Who told us our choices would matter? The hack who defends the ending as "art"?

Not bloody likely.

[Sabrestrikealpha]

Initially, yes. Most of us, if we're honest, have been in a similar situation; we create something we think is really awesome and then have other people tear it to shreds. This is combined with the fact that there might be issues we're simply not, nor will ever be privy to. For example, we're not likely to ever know how much of this debacle is actually Hudson being a bad writer vs. EA pushing out a product they knew wasn't ready for prime time.

Why I've lost sympathy for him over time is the way he has handled himself after release. An initial response that might best be described as "whiny" followed by a wall of silence is NOT a good way to handle this. If he thinks the ending is really so good, he should be out defending it. If he realizes that it's crap, he should stand up and be honest about it. We haven't even gotten a "this is what you were supposed to take away from the ending, sorry if it was unclear." Basically, he is sitting back and letting others defend him rather than doing it himself. That's cowardly. I have little sympathy for cowards.

[ConradShepard]

Casey Hudson lied to us on multiple occassions right up until the game was released. I will not buy anything he's had a hand in.

[MrHibachi]

I can't really say that I do, no. I feel sorry for the BioWare employees that worked hard and in their individual departments produced great work that they slaved over. I feel sorry for all the BioWare employees that aren't allowed to have a voice.

I don't feel sorry for BioWare because they made some very bad decisions and refuse to enter into any kind of dialogue whatsoever to answer peoples questions about anything. They haven't taken any responsibility or for that matter even any real tangible stand on anything. Why after a month of time they have said so little on the forums and stonewalled us about almost everything I can't figure out, but it is horrible public relations.

If they felt strongly about their decisions and artwork then why didn't they defend their viewpoint? Why haven't they given anyone anything to get behind, given us anything to change our minds about how we feel about aspects of the game? Could telling us their thinking and stance on aspects of the game produce a worse result than prolonged silence that forces people to come up with answers for themselves and fume together? I mean really! Besides saying 'wow we didn't expect this response' and 'we stand by our work' they haven't really done anything at all to explain WHY they are happy with their work or to give their side or viewpoint on how they feel they fulfilled many of the things they promised and people were expecting. IE they weren't giving us another side to take other then our own....why? It genuinely makes me think that they themselves feel they blew it bigtime but are either too proud or too afraid to simply apologize and say they made some miscalculations or mistakes or whatever....

Modifié par MrHibachi, 07 avril 2012 - 04:15 .

[Vengilus]

bkp360 wrote...

Vengilus wrote...

I'd really like to, because I can somewhat relate. I know what it's like to have an idea that I personally feel is brilliant and that people will love. I know what it's like to actualize that idea only to have it blow up in my face. To have to go and try to explain why I felt it was so amazing in the first place, hoping that people will see what I was going for.

Unfortunately, though, I cannot feel sorry for him. Even though I know that situation and have utmost respect for anyone trying to pull it off, I also know to take ownership of my errors and see where I went wrong. To admit that the ideas I had, while perhaps still brilliant and artistic, had nothing to do with the original intentions and theme of the story I was attempting to tell.

Only a self indulgent fool full of hubris and a bloated ego would think Star Jar Binks was a good ending.  Casey betrayed us, but he betrayed his own chance at a masterpeice when he fell into his own pit of grandiosity

In the context of Mass Effect, I quite agree, just like how the closing scenes of Lord of the Rings would be a horrible ending to Star Wars. The ending as it stands is terrible because it doesn't fit the context of the world portrayed thus far. (Among other things.) 

It might have been a "brilliantly written and artistic marvel" had it been the ending to a story it actually fit, but this ending undermines the efforts of countless Shepards, betrays the core themes of the series, and ultimately lies to the fan base that it was supposedly written to impress.

So again, no, I cannot feel sorry for him.

[Mastone]

Feel sorry for Casey Hudson?
why?
Was he the one and only person that made that poor excuse of a game (-ending)?
Let's face it he isn't even in charge, when EA tells Bioware to jump, they only asked how high?

If he is getting a lot of slack about the ending he is defending because of some artistic nobility then I think he has to ride this ****storm in which he choose to jump.....

[Leraje666]

Nope. He made his own bed and now has to lie in it. I'm rather surprised that EA/BW have not fired him yet for this SNAFU...