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[yukon fire]

not even slightly

[Doxie99]

Yes, I feel sorry for him. He gave us some of the greatest games ever made (for me not even a contest). I'm sure he never thought that this would happen with the endings.

He's a human being, and he can't be very happy right now. Of course I feel sorry for him, and so should you all.








Screw those endings though.

[tekkaman fear]

Beti88 wrote...

He lied to us, then kept lying... So, no.

QFT

[Wrathra]

No.

[sfam]

To be clear, anyone who wishes violence on Hudson, or even minor vandal activity to his car or some such, REALLY needs to unplug permanently. If I saw Casey, I'd congratulate him on making an AWESOME series, and then ask why he totally trashed it in the last 5 minutes. I might even buy him coffee to hear the answer, but I wouldn't yell at him or anything else like that.

[RockSW]

he flat out lied, to hell with him

[Dartack]

IS1296 wrote...
he failed to keep promises, no one should feel sorry for him

Deventh wrote...
Oh they worked so hard to lie to the fans.
Remember: "There won't be any A,B or C endings" "You will get closure." Yeah right.

SimplePlan2k8 wrote...
I'd feel sorry for him if he hadn't outright lied to us...

that about covers it.

[I am KROGAN]

sfam wrote...

To be clear, anyone who wishes violence on Hudson, or even minor vandal activity to his car or some such, REALLY needs to unplug permanently. If I saw Casey, I'd congratulate him on making an AWESOME series, and then ask why he totally trashed it in the last 5 minutes. I might even buy him coffee to hear the answer, but I wouldn't yell at him or anything else like that.

Agreed, I'm definitely not mad at the guy, he HAS to be feeling terrible that so many fans who've loved the other games hes been a part of are so vehemently opposed to the ending.  I'm just confused and wanting the answer to that same question.

I'd buy him a nice freaking steak dinner to hear the damn answer to that question and also get a freaking straight confirmation/denial on IT.

[sfam]

Doxie99 wrote...

Yes, I feel sorry for him. He gave us some of the greatest games ever made (for me not even a contest). I'm sure he never thought that this would happen with the endings.

He's a human being, and he can't be very happy right now. Of course I feel sorry for him, and so should you all.








Screw those endings though.

Well, if we knew he was thinking to himself, "My God, how did I F*** up my masterpiece so badly?", I think we would feel sorry for him.  But I'm afraid many of us are wondering if he's really thinking, "Screw you!  You drooling bunch of idiots couldn't understand an ending if I beat you senseless with it!"  Certainly based on today's press conference, they are clearly not being honest ("Gosh, we were shocked, shocked that people wanted resolution...").

[Dark_Caduceus]

sfam wrote...

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TemplePhoenix wrote...

Nah.

He can feel free to come online at a later date and explain why he chose the current endings/why the finished game didn't match his prerelease hype, and there may be understandable reasons for it all. Then again, I'm not gonna demand he do so.

Like some of the above posters, I feel sorry for the majority of Bioware, who I feel sure put their best efforts into the game. Casey? Well, there's only so much sympathy to go around...

+1
This.  Aside from the Tali picture, the rest of the game was close to perfect for me. Clearly TONS of staff poured their souls into this, and I truly appreciate it.  Unfortunately the ending is just not the place to jump of a cliff of insanity.  That's exactly what happened to the narrative, and as a consequence, to our feelings about the series. 

You didn't mind only having one Hub World, no exploration in any sense but a superficial one, a total of one "neutral" dailogue option, tons of auto-dialogue, way fewer squad members, recycled multiplayer maps as sidequests, complete unexplained character shifts/motivations(I'm looking at you Legion), throw-away reunion scenes for most previous squadmembers(and a complete lack of many previous chracters=>Parasini, Gardener, Shiala, etc), a journal system worse than the one in ME1 from half a decade ago, a cheapening of the mystery and lore which made Mass Effect so great(more of a personal issue), etc, etc, etc?

Don't get me wrong; the game was great and I don't doubt the team worked their asses off to get it done, but a perfect game apart from the ending it was not.

Nope, I was OK with all of that.  I'd characterize some a bit differently, and yeah, some of the points were problematic - like it made so sense for Legion, a virtual program, to die by spreading the code - like no sense.  But I could live with those levels of annoyances.  There were no killer bugs that caused me to lose 40 hours of gameplay, which happened to me on DA:O Xbox360, for instance.  So no, again, I was fine with the game.  There were enough outstanding parts that overcame those.

Legion says in ME2 that the geth wish to self-determine, and so reject the Reaper proposition assimilation.

Legion says in ME3 that he wants the Reaper code so that the geth can become fully sentient.

The degree of cognitive dissonance there is staggering and it's completely unexplained. When a character's motivations change wihtout any explanation it means you've encountered a significant writing issue.

[LegendaryBlade]

The things I would like to say about Casey would get me banned from the forums and would probably earn scornful looks from even other Retakers.

I can be civil and nice, but I have the right to my more...internal opinion.

[Phaedros]

Apatche69 wrote...

NO. He ruined something beautiful for all consumers so he could claim it for himself. Real nice guy

Reminds me of someone else & another situation..  oh yes..  Mike Laidlaw & DA2

I'm seeing a pattern here..

Started just after EA got involved.

Not  unexpected...

[Adain878]

I have very little respect for bioware period right now. They refuse to be candid about anything and hide behind BS pr jargon. If they would actually man up and talk to us like real people that would go a long way.

[brusher225]

Who really turned their back on who?

[goose2989]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending.  He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him.  It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.

I have no doubt he feels terrible now; he's human, after all. I also don't think for one second that attacking him personally is beneficial to anyone. But don't think that "he" made the ending DLC free. Whether or not he wanted it that way is irrelevant; that was a corporate decision. 

On a positive note, I'm sure he's smart enough to know that, despite the immensely negative reactions by fans, you had to have had been doing something right before to get that reaction. If this was a game that no one was truly devoted to, than he wouldn't hear much. Do you think George Lucas doesn't get hate mail every day for adding Jar Jar? Or the terrible dialogue in the prequel trilogy? 

My final note is that taking criticism, regardless of how harsh it is, is part of a consumer driven market. You won't improve your product if you don't listen to feedback. And despite Ray Muzyka's request for "constructive feedback," that doesn't mean it's going to be polite. Or has to be. I could say several things regarding the ending in the most insulting manner, but they could still be 100% true. 

[Iconoclaste]

goose2989 wrote...

On a positive note, I'm sure he's smart enough to know that, despite the immensely negative reactions by fans, you had to have had been doing something right before to get that reaction.

That would be : "accepting the input from the team", as was likely the case for the rest of the story. That made it less "his" story, and a little more "the TEAM's" story. Because I can see now this same pattern applying to the fanbase, whose input does not seem so important as it cannot defeat the "artistic integrity" sanctuary, I just wish him luck with his future projects.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 07 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[Yougottawanna]

Short answer: no

How many Bioware employees are going to have to put up with how much hostility because Hudson and Walters won't own up to their mistakes? How much has the hard and inspired yeoman work of hundreds of employees been compromised by the pride of these two people?

[xiaoassassin]

He looks like kindofa douche

[BronD69]

Think his hands are tied and has to do as he is told and has no real say as to can or can't,there may
have been a time when this was not the case .,Its the domino principle!!But if this is not the case then??

Wisdom is knowing what to do next; virtue is doing it.

There is no pillow so soft as a clear conscience...

Modifié par BronD69, 07 avril 2012 - 06:50 .

[Herr Sovereign]

Why should we? If anything, we the consumers, deserve the apology. For their blatant lies and false perception of the game. A company that bases their mission statement and values off of "humility" should answer for their errors.

[Stonesoundjam]

Anyone who advocates genocide on a discriminatory galactic level as a solution for peace I find hard to empathize with, much less desire to want as a fellow human being.

[Damien Nightwind]

I dont recall him doing anything to appease fans, from what i saw most of those fans wanted different endings, they wanted their changes to matter, not to just have more info about the existing endings. I for one am not going to be happy with this solution and am not going to buy Bioware games again, i dont feel like being let down by the endings or being lied to. At no point did my choices matter in the ending of that game. Not a bit.

[Soltana]

I feel about as sorry for him as his wallet is empty.

[MaleQuariansFTW]

I used to like the way Casey talked about and described Mass Effect. He always seemed so passionate and honest.



Now it's just nauseating.

[Soulstice88]

I feel a small bit sorry for him, I just know he's getting some bad hate mail that says distasteful things (no one deserves some of the crap people can say). That being said it should have been obvious that the endings would have this reaction and as the lead developer he takes most of the responsibility. That and the blatant lies a week before release, and the complete silence from the developers equals little sympathy.

Now if it is true that Walters and Hudson wrote the endings themselves without peer accessment, I feel even less sorry for them and I have a lot more sympathy for the writers of the rest of the game. They don't deserve having their art tarnished by them.

Modifié par Soulstice88, 07 avril 2012 - 06:36 .