Does anyone else feel sorry for Casey Hudson?
#151
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:20
So yes i do feel sorry for him and the rest of the devs i very much doubt it was their fault when you have a corporate overlord who only cares about money and not it's fans or developers, it's a miracle even 95% of mass effect 3 was good.
#152
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:20
Modifié par kevchy, 06 avril 2012 - 04:21 .
#153
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:20
#154
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:21
I am disappointed with BW of course; endings were very disappointing, the treatment of Thane and all ME2 romances (exclusive of T & G), and then the need to play MP in order to achieve the 5,000 EMS for that last ending all really bother me. But, I would say even with all of that, I am just more saddened and disappointed.
#155
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:21
And marauder shields. he died to save us :'(
#156
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:21
#157
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:22
Lendorien wrote...
Can you document this? I have seen no reports int he news about anything along these lines.
why would it be in the news? its not news worthy. Like I said, just search twitter, blogs, forums, comments to magazine articles on this subject, facebook (the ME fan pages had a ton before they started deleting the more offensive ones).
And frankly, that's a specious argument anyway. Anyone who makes death threats about a game is clearly unhinged, needs help and does not represent the rest of us.
Unfortunately the "public" at large do not make that distinction. And these "people" are the reasons that some stay at home moms and radical groups are the reasons they use to try and sue video game companies, and/or politicians try to use it as a policial reason to put more restrictions on video games being sold.
#158
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:22
#159
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:22
The man made a mistake...but at least then he stuck to his gun about what he did and then didn't go pleasing everyone who thought different.So I'm not sorry for all the people complaining and crying for a game...just a game
Modifié par jakal66, 06 avril 2012 - 04:23 .
#160
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:22
#161
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:23
2. He lied to us
3. He lied again
4. Expect us to respect his artistic integrity
#162
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:23
#163
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:24
#164
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:24
Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...
It's so sad because Casey Hudson was on his way to becoming the next Shigeru Miyamoto, a true legend in the game industry. Mass Effect 2 was so incredible and Mass Effect 3 was going to be his masterpiece, but then the ending ruined everything and now Casey Hudson must be so sad.
He needs our moral and emotional support, not our scorn!
While I agree on the first segment of text, he could've gone down in history as a great director.
I cannot agree with the latter. You lie to your customers and decieve them - then you deserve the scorn they will give you. I have no inclination to fall for the Stockholm syndrome.
#165
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:25
DeeLite808 wrote...
seeing that he has never lied (and fans read things that weren't actually stated) I feel that he had not deserved anything including the DEATH THREATS from so called fans.
he didn't mislead anyone. fans read into this comments and believed what they wanted. sorry, but that's the truth.
So by saying you won't get A, B, C endings he didn't lie? Ending A1 and A2 are still just ending A. RBG doesn't change the fact that your given Choice A, Choice B, and Choice C to end the game.
It's really hard to read anything into a answer like that considering what the results were.
#166
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:25
He's a big boy. He'll get over it. At least he knows what not to do next time. : d
#167
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:25
People need to get over themselves. If you don't like the company anymore, fine. I respect that. But go somewhere else if you want to **** about it 24/7.
#168
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:26
#169
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:26
Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...
He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending. He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him. It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.
If the rumours are true, that the ending was entirely the work of the lead and Casey himself, locked in a room and writing the ending, then no. I do not feel sorry for him. Not a bit.
But I do feel sorry for the reast of the team and writers that was locked out and had no influence what so ever over the endings. And now they are caught in the crossfire. For them i feel sorry.
#170
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:27
Erixxxx wrote...
I feel sorry for him, yes. Sorry because he completely misjudged the fans of one of their most successful franchises. Sorry because he made a game that was 99% awesome and 1% unclear writing. And then people harp on that 1% as if he is the worst person to ever have set foot on this planet.
People need to get over themselves. If you don't like the company anymore, fine. I respect that. But go somewhere else if you want to **** about it 24/7.
Quite arrogant of you to tell other people what to do and how they should behave when being decieved? Lose some of it and people might actually take you seriously. <3
#171
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:27
#172
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:27
jakal66 wrote...
Ohhhh internet people are angryy!!!You didn't get what you wanted?Didn't get what you paid for? Felt misled and heartbroken....well woooppity dooo....welcome to real life where sometimes your entitled to squat!
The man made a mistake...but at least then he stuck to his gun about what he did and then didn't go pleasing everyone who thought different.So I'm not sorry for all the people complaining and crying for a game...just a game
Keep that atitude if you order a steak in a restaurant and get tofu. "Shut up and eat. It's food".
#173
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:27
DeeLite808 wrote...
Lendorien wrote...
Can you document this? I have seen no reports int he news about anything along these lines.
why would it be in the news? its not news worthy. Like I said, just search twitter, blogs, forums, comments to magazine articles on this subject, facebook (the ME fan pages had a ton before they started deleting the more offensive ones).And frankly, that's a specious argument anyway. Anyone who makes death threats about a game is clearly unhinged, needs help and does not represent the rest of us.
Unfortunately the "public" at large do not make that distinction. And these "people" are the reasons that some stay at home moms and radical groups are the reasons they use to try and sue video game companies, and/or politicians try to use it as a policial reason to put more restrictions on video games being sold.
Ahh bull crap, thats like saying Monopoly is responsible for insider trading, and the out of control greed of wall street. Please try again.
#174
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:28
DeeLite808 wrote...
Unfortunately the "public" at large do not make that distinction. And these "people" are the reasons that some stay at home moms and radical groups are the reasons they use to try and sue video game companies, and/or politicians try to use it as a policial reason to put more restrictions on video games being sold.
And why does this make us responsible for any of their actions?
Your argument here is confusing, you lump clearly mad people in a group that includes us, and then attack us for having mad people in the group.
We cannot control the actions of individuals no more than you can control how people want to feel about the endings. If you feel the ending is fine, then good for you. If you feel that the ME 3 lead deserves all the sympathy of the world for having to put up with passionate fans, then good for you, continue thinking that way. I'm not saying anything, or trying to influence the way you think on that.
I will say that I feel no sympathy for him, and I do not feel any sympathy for the people who go overboard in their disagreement either. I feel sorry for myself, and my fellow fans, who have sunk so much time, effort, and love into the game, the same as the rest of the developers at Bioware, to be left with such a bitter aftertaste at the conclusion of what could have been the sci-fi epic of this generation.
Opportunities wasted all around. But it is Bioware who should feel sorry for themselves, for where they could have had greatness, now is only a house divided, crumbling and decaying where it was once a magnificent sight.
How many fans of theirs they have alienated from their efforts in DA 2 and ME 3, time will tell. Maybe not a significant number, in which case, good for them, but if they have alienated a significant portion of their fan base, they only have themselves to blame for it.
#175
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 04:29
That's a lovely analogy, but I disagreesomecthemes wrote...
I feel sorry for him like I do about the ant who just had a kid pour a bottle of water on the ant hill. Not really much the ant can do but start mounding dirt, and while people may want to point to him specifically, as either a idol or person to be villified, but he's just doing his job and, really, no matter how much water we try to douse him with, his only real option is to go back to the plan. Not saying plans never change, but it takes more than one person being nailed to change that impetus.
I can feel sorry about the frustration being caused, but the actual man, he's got enough people worrying about him that he doesn't need the random fan trying to hand hold him.
Being in charge, among other things, means taking the brunt of the heat as well. It means being cautious about what you say, because you're speaking with the voice of the whole franchise.




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