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[N7Gold]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending.  He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him.  It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.

Its the fans who feel betrayed because Casey made statements in his interviews before the game's release which now turned out to be all lies.

1.) Our actions shape the way how the trilogy ends, we are the story's architect

2.) The Rachni Queen is a VERY important asset in the war against the Reapers

3.) No "A, B, C" type endings

Get it, now?

Modifié par N7Gold, 06 avril 2012 - 04:46 .

[Claym0re]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...
You reported me for trying to ascertain how the community feels
about a person with massive creative input in the series? May I ask why?

The poll is way too narrowed to be a real representation of how this community feels about what our problem really is.

The wording is offensive and inappropiate.

[sammysoso]

I do. I feel sorry for BioWare as a whole. Yes, they goofed the endings, but they are trying to make them work and all we've given them is scorn.

Compromise is the only way things get done.

[Kilshrek]

Erixxxx wrote...

Is it worth making death-threats over? Or hoping some physically harm come to him because of 1% of an extremely entertaining game?

Again you are making the mistake of lumping idiots into a group of actual fans. Stop being dense and look at the reasonable complaints people are making. Just because you see what you want to see, vitriol and stupidity, doesn't mean everyone is like that.

If I had a penny for every time someone like you made a generalisation like that I'd probably have enough money to buy out Bioware from EA.

[Peranor]

Erixxxx wrote...

Relwyn wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

I feel sorry for him, yes. Sorry because he completely misjudged the fans of one of their most successful franchises. Sorry because he made a game that was 99% awesome and 1% unclear writing. And then people harp on that 1% as if he is the worst person to ever have set foot on this planet.

People need to get over themselves. If you don't like the company anymore, fine. I respect that. But go somewhere else if you want to **** about it 24/7.

Quite arrogant of you to tell other people what to do and how they should behave when being decieved? Lose some of it and people might actually take you seriously. <3

Is it worth making death-threats over? Or hoping some physically harm come to him because of 1% of an extremely entertaining game?

Ah yes, because everyone who didn't like the ending automatically makes death-threats and hope that he dies. I have dismissed that claim.

[bmwcrazy]

Erixxxx wrote...

Is it worth making death-threats over? Or hoping some physically harm come to him because of 1% of an extremely entertaining game?

I don't wish anything bad happens to him but in the same time I don't feel sorry for him. Not one bit.

[ThatGuy39]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Please do vote in the poll: http://social.biowar...81/polls/31534/

 

The poll's a bit misleading. I'm sure the goat had a mother.

[Saku39]

Nope, not one iota. If Hudson watched the ending and said, "this is good enough", than he's incompetent. There's no other explanation, it's his responsibility to deliver a quality product. He's an utter failure, and I hope he loses his job. What golden goose is he going to throttle to death next?

[bigtymers1211]

I don't feel sorry for him because he oversaw the destruction of one of the greatest RPG in our Generation. ME3 will be known as an example of a wasted potential, and the entire writer team will get stuck with the label, which is not fair at all.

Since Hudson and Walters are the leads, they will bear the responsibility of dooming this Franchise, man, I would love to hear what EA exec telling them right now...

"2 FREE DLC and you guys still won't fix the ending? you know how much money we ARE LOSING due to lost sales?"

[Painaid]

 Not one bit. He is one of the few to blame for this whole fiasco. He lied to our faces about the endings. He clearly stated that we would not getting endings that amounted to A, B, or C. And what do we get? A, B, or C.

He deserves all the flak he receives on this because he has ruined one of the greatest video game franchises ever created and yet he STILL won't admit that he was wrong. He and the other higher ups are willing to drive this franchise into the ground rather than admit they were wrong.

It's pathetic.

[Aweus]

Sorry? Not at the moment.
Hate? Not quite as well.
We will see this summer...

Still... I think it would be cool if he would go out from his bunker and talk a bit more. Some interview, things like that. He is the face behind Mass Effect. It is reasonable to ask for more outgoing PR. Hiding in the corner will not grant you additional respect.

[Rafe Sendron]

I absolutely do not feel sorry for him. Why would I? He lied repeatedly leading up to launch and has done nothing but pull the artistic integrity card since this all started. Besides, wasn't it him who told a fan who asked if they could marry thier love interest...."We got you covered..."

[mxfox408]

Mass Effect 3 was amazing with some livable plot holes, up until after harbinger blows you to Hell, that's when the game commits suicide. So do I feel sorry for him? That's a big NO! why? Plain and simple all interviews and press releases where contradicted with the ending. The game was paid for with our hard earned cash, and we in the end where given exactly what he promised not to give us. So is the hate deserved? No, but totally understandable since most people(myself included) emotionally invested into this series, we feel the end did not fit with this game

[DeeLite808]

sammysoso wrote...

I do. I feel sorry for BioWare as a whole. Yes, they goofed the endings, but they are trying to make them work and all we've given them is scorn.

Compromise is the only way things get done.

yup, but nameless fans can't admit when they are wrong. they rather gripe than admit "hey, this is probably the only thing we can get, but at least they did listen to us".

goalpost moving for these "fans" must be making these fans' backs hurt

[ThePanzer99]

Whodathunk that creating an ending with the goal of creatIng controversy, instead of closure, would blow up in your face on a multi-million dollar project?

In any other industry the leads would have pink slips already.

[Smiley556]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Please do vote in the poll: *link removed*

You are incredibly offensive and will be reported by many people. I'd suggest removing the poll. Partly because it will get you banned, but mostly because it makes you look like a very immature offensive disrespectfull person sinking much lower than Casey Hudson.

[AnsinJung]

I don't trust anyone that makes more money than I do. But seriously, it sounds like they didn't test ME3 properly, like get feedback on the ending from non employees--people without a vested interest in being yes men.

[Eain]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending.  He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him.  It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.

He told us nonsense in the leadup to ME3 and now rather than man up and admit they made a mess of the trilogy's ending he wants to go and clarify it instead. He's not trying very hard to win our support back at all. Actually doing so would involve things like talking with us and explaining his original vision and trying to understand why we don't agree with him.

It would also involve actually changing the ending or manning up and saying "this is game is my vision and if you don't like it then that's too bloody bad".

[Glitch007]

Casey can redeem himself by making the EC DLC amazing, I don't think ending is all that bad, it just fails to bring any emotions to the surface, (other than wtfery). If the DLC does and explains things and leaves you feeling hell yeah then all is good. Most people have to remember most game endings are bad, (Zelda OOT ending is a bit wtf, he goes back to when he first met Zelda???? Although the Zelda series isn't built on its story). But if you can do the above he's a boss, until then sad face at his name...

[Hajilestone]

He blatantly lied and disappointed many fans, he deserves no pity.

[Thornne]

I think most of the personal attacks against directed against HIM are out of line -- I feel sorry for him being subjected to that. We don't know exactly what went on with the ME3 ending, or who is primarily responsible for it.

I don't feel sorry for him having to see his work (if the ending is indeed his work) being attacked, though.

[adembroski]

 On one hand, he has delivered my two favorite games of all time.

On the other hand, he destroyed the world in which those games were set with the next installment.

One one hand, he delivered the most engaging experience I've ever had in any form of entertainment.

On the other hand, he refuses to make the changes necessary that the third installment join that group.

Feel sorry for him? No, that's pity, and I expect he'd find that insulting. I wish him the best, I hope he changes his mind, I believe much of whats directed at HIM personally is unwarrented (endings like that don't happen in a vacuum, and he's one guy on a team within a very large company). The calls for his firing are ridiculous to say the least; but I think he has thick enough skin to handle it.

I know how he's feeling right now. The creative director of my team quit for similar reasons. It can become overwhelming. I think Casey has enough professional pride and has accomplished enough that he'll be ok, and his next release will probably be another gem.

I just wish he'd take the time to turn ME3 into the gem it shoulda been.

Modifié par adembroski, 06 avril 2012 - 05:02 .

[Reaper511]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

He and Bioware have worked so hard to appease angry fans with the ending.  He even went so far as to make the clarification DLC free but now everyone is being so mean to him.  It must feel so terrible to have your fans turn their backs on you even though you try so hard to win back their support.

I would feel sorry if anyone at bioware had been strong enough to come out and admit the ending is just not done to the same level of excellence as the rest of the series.

Forget that it makes no sense within the lore; forget that it directly invalidates some of our prior choices and implies a depressing existence for everyone we've ever known; forget that it is mostly auto-dialogue in a series that has been defined by players CHOOSING their tone and delivery, and often the entire outcome of conversation.

Even if you come up with a way to explain away EVERY plothole or other issue you're missing the big picture: Mass Effect never needed all that explanation before. This scene is just bad. Most video game endings are bad, it happens. Bioware could take the opportunity to say "yeah it's not up to the same standards as the rest of the game, give us a couple months and we'll polish that baby up." and I'd be ok.

I wouldn't be fully pleased if the extended cut just added to the goofy, hole-riddled ending, but at least I'd respect Bioware (and Casey) for admitting it.

ANYBODY who compares the ending to the rest of the game can see it's just not the same level of work. Not the same soul or depth of character. You want artistic integrity, or vision? Look at Tuchanka. THAT was powerful.

Man up and admit that it's subpar, and I will be back on your side. Stop hiding behind "vision" and "integrity", it just makes you look arrogant.

[recentio]

He created this problem by being out of touch with his players, OP. He made a bad call, and now he should take the heat for it. That's what happens when you are a leader.

Modifié par recentio, 06 avril 2012 - 05:06 .

[whiteraider]

recentio wrote...

He created this problem by being out of touch with his players, OP. He made a bad call, and now he should take the heat for it. That's what happens when you are a leader.

And there was me thinking that you found someone further down the food chain to blame it on and canned them! :innocent: