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[Ravenmyste]

no. just no they already said no why bioware did you cave into the vanguards, now we have krogan it make no sense that they can be vanguards..

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 06 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[AndanteInBlue]

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

[RecoonHoodie]

OH MAAW GAWWWD! Krogan Vanguard is like a tank with nitro! Can't wait till 10 april!

[Chrumpek]

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

Finally someone with some common sense :>

[Hizuka]

It's kind of funny, last week I was talking to someone during a couple MP matches about how brutal a krogan vanguard would be....

[Ravenmyste]

okay that new sniper rifle the harpoon looks to be fun.

[Blissey1]

Ravenmyste wrote...

no. just no they already said no why bioware did you cave into the vanguards, now we have krogan it make no sense that they can be vanguards..

You know Wrex was a Vanguard in ME1, right?

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

 

Barrier  would probably work pretty well for vanguard, I'd think.

[Ravenmyste]

RecoonHoodie wrote...

OH MAAW GAWWWD! Krogan Vanguard is like a tank with nitro! Can't wait till 10 april!

well at least they didnt give us prothy as a character . altho i an interested in that  batarin sentail power thet looked like webbing

[Ravenmyste]

Blissey1 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

no. just no they already said no why bioware did you cave into the vanguards, now we have krogan it make no sense that they can be vanguards..

You know Wrex was a Vanguard in ME1, right?

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

 

Barrier  would probably work pretty well for vanguard, I'd think.

he never showed it in me 1 if i remeber right he always used barrier/carnage not once did i ever see him  move forward like vanguard so that would incline that he wasnt and sinc ei am playng another plaue thru of the me series i can tell you he isnt and  i just checked he doesnt have  charge and yes he is a krogan battlemaster and yes he does have throw and warp and  stasis, but he does not have biotic charge!

edited to reflect that i just checked in game me1

so there you go   there as now there should be no krogan vanguards in the entire lore of the game and wrex is doesnt not have charge in me1

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 06 avril 2012 - 06:51 .

[Hippee9211]

Yea im going to have to agree with the minority here.

As cool as it looks I think alot of people are going to rush towards it when it first comes out only to realize that they aren't mobile enough to be vangards even with their crazy high HP\\shields.

I see myself getting pissed at krogans in the very near future.

[Atheosis]

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

I'm absolutely certain Krogan Vanguards will be a mess on Gold.  A complete and utter mess.  But oh well.

[Atheosis]

Hippee9211 wrote...

Yea im going to have to agree with the minority here.

As cool as it looks I think alot of people are going to rush towards it when it first comes out only to realize that they aren't mobile enough to be vangards even with their crazy high HPshields.

I see myself getting pissed at krogans in the very near future.

Pretty much.  

[TiberiusN7]

So much wailing and gnashing of teeth. "Oh, the shame this heaps on those who whine like pups."

Modifié par iJody, 06 avril 2012 - 06:07 .

[Ravenmyste]

now comes the hard question how much is the new dlc going to run us

[Blissey1]

Ravenmyste wrote...

he never showed it in me 1 if i remeber right he always used fortifcation/carnage not once did i ever see him  move forward like vanguard so that would incline that he wasnt and sinc ei am playng another plaue thru of the me series i can tell you he isnt

he was a mix of soldier and adept. That means Vanguard. He did not use fortification, he used barrier, a biotic ability. He could also use warp, stasis, and throw.

Ravenmyste wrote...

now comes the hard question how much is the new dlc going to run us

 

Scroll down to the end. It's free.

Modifié par Blissey1, 06 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[TexasToast712]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

no. just no they already said no why bioware did you cave into the vanguards, now we have krogan it make no sense that they can be vanguards..

You know Wrex was a Vanguard in ME1, right?

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

 

Barrier  would probably work pretty well for vanguard, I'd think.

he never showed it in me 1 if i remeber right he always used fortifcation/carnage not once did i ever see him  move forward like vanguard so that would incline that he wasnt and sinc ei am playng another plaue thru of the me series i can tell you he isnt

1. Your grammar is horrible.
2. Wrex is a Vanguard. He has all the powers of a ME1 Vanguard. If he was a party member in 2 or 3 he likely would have had charge.

[Hyperglide]

So awesome. But I really hope they fix the Krogan stun locks. They are so annoying. My Krogan dies way to much on SIlver and Gold from stun lock. I hate the Geth for it. Krogans are supposed to be an immovable force. Like the Juggernaut ****!

[jaydubs67]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Question first...

What is "best"?

Clearance time? Kill count? Top score consistancy?

Or the illusion that Charge + Nova is the end all of combinations? The reason I ask this is because I play an Asari Vanguard regularly and I have beaten EVERY human Vanguard in both Kill count AND Top score. Consistantly.

How you ask? Easy... Stasis + Black Widow + Charge... all over the map.

It is just a gentleman's wager...  we can disagree about it at the end, nothing's at stake.  But to me best would be a combination of:

-Team synergy - does it work well with others?  Can it fill a "niche" in a specialized team?  I think the drell adept is a great class because it's the best primer for biotic combos.  Charge - nova is one of the best detonators, since it is very fast to spam and tanks/draws aggro at the same time.  

-Individual capability - best measured in solo gold.  A decent measure of survivability if something goes wrong as well as how well a class can kill and/or cap objectives.  The salarian infiltrator is the exemplar of a class high on individual capability, though it also scores well on team synergy thanks to cloak helping with objectives and revives.  

Of the two, I value the first more than the latter, but both are important.  You can disagree and come up with completely different standards if you like.  As long as a lengthy discussion about krogan vanguards is also included.  

[dgumb]

If Bioware follows the MMO model of nerfing and introducing new classes, the new ones will be ridiculously overpowered, everyone will rush to play them, and then they'll get nerfed into oblivion ("balance").

Don't know why they started the endless buff/nerf cycle in a co-op game to begin with, the cycle cannot be broken.

[Peer of the Empire]

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games
and frustrated teammates ><

Bronze and silver are nothing to get frustrated about, lmao. If you die you are either being merrily reckless or bad.

Bioware needs to balance krogan vanguard for gold. It may work out; if so, I will continue playing this game

Atheosis wrote...

Hippee9211 wrote...

Yea im going to have to agree with the minority here.

As cool as it looks I think alot of people are going to rush towards it when it first comes out only to realize that they aren't mobile enough to be vangards even with their crazy high HPshields.

I see myself getting pissed at krogans in the very near future.

Pretty much.  

You guys need to quit your whining and go back to your infiltrators/adepts.  Whom I am already annoyed at.

If krogan vanguard isn't good on gold, then I'll just stop playing the game

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 06 avril 2012 - 06:21 .

[TiberiusN7]

Ravenmyste wrote...

now comes the hard question how much is the new dlc going to run us

Did you not read the easy answer in the original post? FREE

Modifié par iJody, 06 avril 2012 - 06:12 .

[DESTRAUDO]

iJody wrote...

And it looks like the Asari Justicar Adept has a group Barrier... a la the Collector Base.

Savage.

[RamsenC]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Question first...

What is "best"?

Clearance time? Kill count? Top score consistancy?

Or the illusion that Charge + Nova is the end all of combinations? The reason I ask this is because I play an Asari Vanguard regularly and I have beaten EVERY human Vanguard in both Kill count AND Top score. Consistantly.

How you ask? Easy... Stasis + Black Widow + Charge... all over the map.

Human Vanguard's strength is it's ability to tank hordes of enemies, even on gold, not score the highest. Even so a good Human Vanguard will outscore an Asari of equal skill everytime. I generally get 130k with Human Vanguard on gold even though I prioritize team protection over scoring.

It doesn't really matter if Krogan will be the best or not though, it's another Vanguard to play with and it's Krogan

Modifié par RamsenC, 06 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[Ravenmyste]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

no. just no they already said no why bioware did you cave into the vanguards, now we have krogan it make no sense that they can be vanguards..

You know Wrex was a Vanguard in ME1, right?

AndanteInBlue wrote...

I do wonder how they intend to balance this. Currently Krogans MP classes both have grenades and a "Tech Armor like" ability; neither of those would fit in very well in a vanguard mode. And since Krogans can't roll, they could end up being some of the most "berserker mode" vanguards. As cool as I think they'd be, I can also imagine a lot of dead Krogans in Bronze / Silver games and frustrated teammates ><

 

Barrier  would probably work pretty well for vanguard, I'd think.

he never showed it in me 1 if i remeber right he always used fortifcation/carnage not once did i ever see him  move forward like vanguard so that would incline that he wasnt and sinc ei am playng another plaue thru of the me series i can tell you he isnt

1. Your grammar is horrible.
2. Wrex is a Vanguard. He has all the powers of a ME1 Vanguard. If he was a party member in 2 or 3 he likely would have had charge.

1 dont care what you think

2 second he was a battlemaster... if you watch they have 2  different names for it  first they say battle master second they say vanguard

 and  i am sure as hell he did not have  all the  powers  and i will check to make sure and bliss he never  moved forward with biotic charge i alway save him   in the vs part so i never see him charge forward on his own unless they changed it in me 1 but to this lore battlemasters do not have  biotic charge..

[Atheosis]

dgumb wrote...

If Bioware follows the MMO model of nerfing and introducing new classes, the new ones will be ridiculously overpowered, everyone will rush to play them, and then they'll get nerfed into oblivion ("balance").

Don't know why they started the endless buff/nerf cycle in a co-op game to begin with, the cycle cannot be broken.

There have been very few nerfs since the game came out.