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[chevyguy87]

RaenImrahl wrote...

chevyguy87 wrote...

I give Minty another 20 minutes before he comes back with another idiotic chess related comment

Off-topic.

Then I apologize 

[Reorte]

Leafs43 wrote...

PAX was a waste of time.

For at least 2-3 weeks Bioware has trumped up PAX.

And they did nothing but waste time.

Possibly planned on announcing the expansion DLC at PAX but decided in the end that it would be easier to get that out of the way beforehand.

[Mandemon]

Where was the "exciting announcement"? I mean, MP DLC has been know ever since game came out, no surprise there and extended cut is something that came out before PAX. So where is it? Did The Illusive Man steal it?

[Kandon Arc]

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

[Perivayne]

[** comment removed by moderator.  insulting others, even if you think they're trolls, is not helpful **]

As to the panel and the questions, most media events are controlled to a certain extent in regards to the panels and what goes on in them. I wouldn't be surprised if the Q & A was abbrieviated to avoid the most egregrious negative questions.

Edit: I do appreciate that the moderators are watching this thread and felt my comments were worthy of censoring, I would wish to point out the quoted post I found offensive enough to comment on is still posted up and is not edited. As this individual is quite unabashedly pro-Bioware, this appears as favoritism.

Modifié par Perivayne, 06 avril 2012 - 11:00 .

[aliengmr1]

Laurcus wrote...

Glad that one of the questions addressed the IT. Too bad the answer didn't confirm or deny anything.

Every other question was pretty pointless.

What happens if you to the IT people when you confirm it wasn't true?

Thats why they dodged the question.

[Noatz]

jojimbo wrote...

what an absolute disgrace, the panel should have had hudson on it, and he should have put his hands up and said "ok guys!!! what do you want to know?" then he tells us whats going on, whats going to happen and let it go.
theres no big secret to hide from the extended cut, tell us what its going to be FFS,
where is the omega dlc???
all we got was back patting and QUESTION AVOIDANCE with none of the panel having the spine to take the helm and treat us with the ****iing respect we deserve.

Never in the history of computer games has a company fouled up so badly, i dont think bioware is going to survive the summer, i really dont.

Bioware is nothing but empty promises, a shadow of its former self, skirting round issues and running like a thief in the night, yes bioware you not only destroyed all we ever loved but robbed us and now you deserve to go into administration.

FFS i payed you to make me feel traumatised and dont ever want to experience that ending again,
stick your dlc, and any other game you decide to crap out up your unconcerned jackseys

When I got to "and now you deserve to go into administration" I burst out laughing.

Oh this forum kills me.

[Reorte]

aliengmr1 wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Glad that one of the questions addressed the IT. Too bad the answer didn't confirm or deny anything.

Every other question was pretty pointless.

What happens if you to the IT people when you confirm it wasn't true?

Thats why they dodged the question.

It'll presumably be answered in the summer anyway. Why not simply get the issue out of the way now and move on?

[Dreogan]

aliengmr1 wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Glad that one of the questions addressed the IT. Too bad the answer didn't confirm or deny anything.

Every other question was pretty pointless.

What happens if you to the IT people when you confirm it wasn't true?

Thats why they dodged the question.

Another explosion, considering a  foundational concept of IT for many is Bioware couldn't drop the ball that hard. By denying IT, they admit they meant the endings as written.

This would not be to their advantage.

[Provo_101]

Reorte wrote...

aliengmr1 wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Glad that one of the questions addressed the IT. Too bad the answer didn't confirm or deny anything.

Every other question was pretty pointless.

What happens if you to the IT people when you confirm it wasn't true?

Thats why they dodged the question.

It'll presumably be answered in the summer anyway. Why not simply get the issue out of the way now and move on?

It would be much better to just get it over with instead of stringing us along until the summer.

[Irishkev]

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

[Esoretal]

Been following from my phone for the last hour since my family scheduled a big dinner right over PAX.

Okay, seriously. What the ****, BioWare. lol

[Blue Liara]

My analysis of the only good question from the Q&A.

Question from Q&A
"as an art form in games should'nt its integrity come from being able to withstand all forms of criticism not just constructive....isn't this integrity about taking all kinds of criticism, and taking it and addressing it"
Answer: "Whenever you create a piece of art your never going to have everyone who's extremely happy with what you do there's always going to be bits and pieces, the only reason we ask for it to be constructive...constructive can mean a number of things as long as it is not belligerent, and if it's belligerent that is entirely up to the feedback giver, but when we are listening to feedback we are actually looking for ways to improve, thats the line that we draw we would like things to improve and we would like ways to make the ending better. If you did not like the ending your entirely ok to not like the ending. But you know, (someone else says this, "it doesn't make it a crime against humanity".) Ok going to disect this response now:

A). "whenever you create a piece of art you never going ot have everyone who's exteremely happy with what you do"

A1). The vast majority of people are NOT happy with the ending. Let alone the EXTREMELY happy.

A2). Seems like they are sticking to the defnese that the ending is a piece of "art". I for one think this is a very poor defense as video games especilaly mass effect are nothing like art in the traditional sense because they involve so much inolvement from the player. There have been many articles on this specific Artistic Integrity Argument and you can look them up on the internet quite easily. Basically it is BS.

"constructive can mean a number of things as long as it is not belligerent"

B1) I am sick and tired of this. Ok Bioware point me to the waves of people who have been "belligerent" I for one have been going on the forums everyday and have yet to see one posting that I would describe as "belligerent". This to me seems like Bioware's continued attempt to marginalize any harsh criticism of them as done by fringe nutters. I have yet to see this torrent of "belligerent" criticism and I doubt I ever will because I do not believe it exists to anywhere near the degree that Bioware claims that it does.

C) "when we are listening to feedback we are actually looking for ways to improve, thats the line we draw we would like things to improve and we would like ways to make the ending better"

C1) Clearly you are not listening to feedback otherwise you would not be looking for ways to make the endings better. The overwhelming majoirty of people don't want the endings to be made better they want NEW endings. They want the old endings to be remembered as a bad joke consigned to the dustbin of history.

C2) If you were listening to our feedback why not give us some more god damn answers. Instead of showing up 30 minutes late to the panel and only leaving 10 minutes of Q&A. Why spend most of your time patting yourselfs on the back for what a great job you've done. Why answer questions about Shepards BLOODY FACIAL EXPRESSIONS?!!!. You KNOW that is NOT what the community cares about or wants to hear. Yet you also KNOW that you have messed up royaly and for some reason you don't have the guts to face up to that.

C2) The ending are not salvageble they are full of plot holes and absurd ciruclar logic. They retrospectively wipe out the themes that have been builidng up throughout the entire series. Most importantly they give you no Choice oh I'm sorry you get a choice between RED GREEN OR BLUE....YAY.

Ok anyone else like to comment on the questions (or lack thereof) at this pathetic PR driven PAX panel feel free to do so.

Oh by the way Bioware like my use of ABC. Seriously what are we twelve and we can only handle three choices.

Do not yield we still have not won but we have not lost.

HOLD THE LINE

[chevyguy87]

Well now all I have left to even hope about looking forward to is that DLC and all I have to say is it better be damned impressive. But I will not be holding my breath

[Kandon Arc]

Irishkev wrote...

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

I meant it was a good question. I didn't mean it was a good answer 

[Kamuchi]

Irishkev wrote...

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

|Don`t forget the gravity part where it crashed down on earth for a pretteh nice crater

[aliengmr1]

Reorte wrote...

aliengmr1 wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Glad that one of the questions addressed the IT. Too bad the answer didn't confirm or deny anything.

Every other question was pretty pointless.

What happens if you to the IT people when you confirm it wasn't true?

Thats why they dodged the question.

It'll presumably be answered in the summer anyway. Why not simply get the issue out of the way now and move on?

to placate until new content. Maybe they get something IT related thrown in as well. BW just didn't want to destoy the hope of people still onboard.

[oracle343gspark]

OMG!!!! I've always wanted to play as a Batarian... Oh wait.

[kyban]

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

That's right, they did explain that not everyone on the Citadel died... but that issue was one of the smaller ones when you consider the other questions people have.

[Irishkev]

Kandon Arc wrote...

Irishkev wrote...

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

I meant it was a good question. I didn't mean it was a good answer 

Sorry didn't mean that to come off sarcy.

I was being sincere as  it sounds like (to me) that they don't have a clue about the ending either.

Modifié par Irishkev, 06 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[RiouHotaru]

Kamuchi wrote...

Irishkev wrote...

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

|Don`t forget the gravity part where it crashed down on earth for a pretteh nice crater

I don't recall seeing a scene where it crashes.

And the entire thing doesn't blow up.

[Reorte]

aliengmr1 wrote...

Reorte wrote...
It'll presumably be answered in the summer anyway. Why not simply get the issue out of the way now and move on?

to placate until new content. Maybe they get something IT related thrown in as well. BW just didn't want to destoy the hope of people still onboard.

It'll be destroyed eventually anyway (assuming it's wrong). I don't see the point in stringing it on any further unless it's along the lines of "We hadn't thought of that but we may decide to include it." But if that's the case what's to lose by simplying saying so?

[Dusty Boy T]

Velocithon wrote...

hi dusty

Oh, you

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

The Smitchens wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

The Smitchens wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

MintyCool wrote...

The Smitchens wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

MintyCool wrote...


Like I've always said, RETAKERS are the vocal minority.

Pax proves it!

Does someone pay you to go into every single ending thread ever, comment on every single RME comment, or do you really not have anything better to do?

That's the kind of thing that could easily be flipped 180.  You'd think that some people have made a full time job and could pay their bills just by the amount of effort they put into demanding a new ending.

Exactly.

how does having a job/life have anything to do with taste and wanting good content from products they spent so much of their pasttimes with?

What I'm saying is if the biggest problem you have in your life is that a game's ending wasn't up to snuff with your expectations, or that a public statement didn't meet your exact criteria, if you are so problem free that you are able to expend so much of your slowly depleting life on a forum calling for a new ending to a video game then I, sir, envy you with every cell in my body.

It's not that big of a deal.

lol i normally don't resort to this (may get banned), but boy you're a self-righteous ****.

It's difficult to articulate by text alone while appropriately controlling the tone I intend that to be read in, so the only rebuttal I can really offer is just trust me.  I'm not.  Rereading that I can understand why you might infer that though.  Not my intention.

I just think that too often miniscule things get blown out of proportion.  The ME3 ending is about as famous as Kim Kardashian now and neither one is really worth the attention.

FTL thread, but I will say this, this goes way beyond just the endings now, the way EAwar has treated it's customers would be inexcusable with any other type of product, the "It's just a game" defense is largely responsible for FUGPUSC's nickle and diming, it may not seem like a big deal, but that is precisely why it is.

[Kamuchi]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kamuchi wrote...

Irishkev wrote...

Kandon Arc wrote...

Guys I think we should just accept that we got 4 useless questions (the first one, about the citadel, was actually good). The wrong people won the scramble for the mic. It sucks but that's life.

Accusing EA and BW of buying the crowd is not doing anyone any favours and further reduces our credibility to neutral observers.

I like the citadel comment as I kinda get the feeling they didn't see the ending

One of the things in the citadel codex is that
anyplace -inside- the citadel has emergency seals, and some exterior
areas have emergency seals that can keep atmosphere in. Even if the
Citadel is destroyed (which it may or may not be in ending), "is not
like the entire things blow up." People on (in) the arms may well still
be alive. No reason to assume 100% casualtties

it's not like the entire things blow up

the entire things blow up
blows up

It does blow UP!!!!

I aint sure what they were playing but in every ending I saw / played the citadel blew up after firing the beam into the relay

|Don`t forget the gravity part where it crashed down on earth for a pretteh nice crater

I don't recall seeing a scene where it crashes.

And the entire thing doesn't blow up.

Ah yea, no gravity to pull such a giant object into earth`s atmosphere, sorry, space magic wins again