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[ItsRed]

Vanguard? I've played the Vanguard and I freaking hate it. Its rage inducing, you have to constantly charge into the hottest zones possible just to keep your damn barriers up. I'm not hating on the Vanguards because for the most part it seems to go like this
Bronze: Vanguard does amazingly and gets around 70K. Stealing kills left right and centre.
Silver: Vanguard does dreadfully and dies EVERY GODAMN WAVE
Gold: Vanguards are kicked before the game even starts.

[withneelandi]

I'll preface this by saying that I played with an excellent vanguard on silver last night, who was a top class team player and balanced offensive play and team work perfectly, revives, objective chasing as much as biotic charging.

Broadly though they are an absolute pain.

My friend and I were leveling up promoted characters so had some low level support classes in Bronze, 2 level 20 vanguards joined the game, it was the dullest game of my life.

They dominated, obviously and I'm sure felt massively clever for getting better scores than a pair of level 1 characters on bronze with a level 20 character, I don't really care about the scores but we literally didn't get the chance to do ANYTHING, before the spammed biotic charge and nova and cleared the map. No fun, the online equivilent of a 20 year old playing football in the park with a bunch of kids and boasting about scoring a hat-trick.




That sort of vanguard play is just pathetic. If you have a level 20 character what the hell are you doing in bronze?

[Sailears]

nasonia wrote...

Drell adept ... Reave sound makes me rage slightly.

Human vanguard ... These kids don't need the Reave sound bug to make the game sound annoying. OK, but other than that, they're always either dead or dancing around, bugged until they d/c or quit the game. If not, they're dead most of the game.

The funny thing is you add those two classes together and they decimate everything in their path, very quickly.

I love having a good drell and HV in the team.

[NM_Che56]

Yeah. I forgot that vanguards Peter spamming around disrupts the space time continuum and they glitch like meth heads.

[Raiil]

Anyone who refuses to revive teammates or do objectives. I'm lucky I guess, but no one class annoys me.

[Drakham]

i dislike people who do the same error over and over again or act without thinking.
Oh wait, wasnt the topic.

Actually the classes are not the issues but the guys driving the chars over the map.
So i have to admit, theres no class i dislike.
And the things you describe is because of the people playing them.
All you could say is that for example the vanguard is favoring a certain behavior which attracts a certain kind of specimen (exceptions confirm the rule).

[RSX Titan]

ItsRed wrote...

Vanguard? I've played the Vanguard and I freaking hate it. Its rage inducing, you have to constantly charge into the hottest zones possible just to keep your damn barriers up. I'm not hating on the Vanguards because for the most part it seems to go like this
Bronze: Vanguard does amazingly and gets around 70K. Stealing kills left right and centre.
Silver: Vanguard does dreadfully and dies EVERY GODAMN WAVE
Gold: Vanguards are kicked before the game even starts.

First off, Kill stealing doesn't exist. The xp is shared. Secondly, a human vanguard can destroy most groups on Silver without any problem provided they have low cool downs. On Gold, the vanguard is a support class. They cleanup mobs that get too close to the group and/or detonate stasis/warp. The problem is that most human vanguards have spent hours playing Bronze and Silver a different way then get slapped in the face on Gold. A good vanguard is an asset to any group, a bad one is a hinderence. Just like any other class.

Modifié par RSX Titan, 07 avril 2012 - 02:43 .

[Zurdo99]

i really agree with you about vanguard in gold, proper vanguard doesnt rage around in gold like they do in silver plus i actually rarely see vanguard in gold, propably because most of those fail to play one there dunno

[MrTango LXXII]

ItsRed wrote...

Vanguard? I've played the Vanguard and I freaking hate it. Its rage inducing, you have to constantly charge into the hottest zones possible just to keep your damn barriers up. I'm not hating on the Vanguards because for the most part it seems to go like this
Bronze: Vanguard does amazingly and gets around 70K. Stealing kills left right and centre.
Silver: Vanguard does dreadfully and dies EVERY GODAMN WAVE
Gold: Vanguards are kicked before the game even starts.

for em usually goes:
Bronze: KILL ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Silver: serious time, as long as i dont get Vg glitches I am flush with top ranked players.
Gold: hell no. between lag, glitches, and the increased damage, im not charging anywhere. 

I have play Vg on all of the difficulties, and it just isnt as effective on Gold as it is on bronze or silver. sorta like the human adept. 

Modifié par MrTango LXXII, 07 avril 2012 - 03:23 .

[nasonia]

Curunen wrote...

nasonia wrote...

Drell adept ... Reave sound makes me rage slightly.

Human vanguard ... These kids don't need the Reave sound bug to make the game sound annoying. OK, but other than that, they're always either dead or dancing around, bugged until they d/c or quit the game. If not, they're dead most of the game.

The funny thing is you add those two classes together and they decimate everything in their path, very quickly.

I love having a good drell and HV in the team.

It is true that they do go well together ... until the human vanguard glitches out and starts moshing in one spot.

[Sailears]

^Yeah sadly. :/

I hope that gets fixed soon.

[Stonesoundjam]

Fat krogans who have to stand in front of everybody elses crosshairs.

Oh, to only have a friendly fire toggle...

I would stab that cowfaced lizard so often

[Atheosis]

SmawgSS wrote...

Although I agree that Vanguards are annoying as heck, here's a few suggestions.

1: Play with others as you would like to be played with (not like that ;p)  In other words, don't steal people's kills, it's rude...

which leads to..

2: If someone (Vanguard *cough* *cough*) keeps stealing kills, and they die... don't bother with the rez.  It send's a message when; "Oh, I'm owning!  OMG I just got tackled by 2 pyro's and 3 geth warriors! OMG! MB I should't randomly charge into the enemy any more!"

3: 50+ Assist in mission summary... be proud of that... that means that without the theifs, you would have had that many more kills...

P.S. Keep up the free DLC and we may just end up loving you Bioware (vice just liking you for this great game!)

What the hell is "stealing kills"?

[NM_Che56]

Atheosis wrote...

SmawgSS wrote...
Although I agree that Vanguards are annoying as heck, here's a few suggestions.
1: Play with others as you would like to be played with (not like that ;p)  In other words, don't steal people's kills, it's rude..
which leads to..
2: If someone (Vanguard *cough* *cough*) keeps stealing kills, and they die... don't bother with the rez.  It send's a message when; "Oh, I'm owning!  OMG I just got tackled by 2 pyro's and 3 geth warriors! OMG! MB I should't randomly charge into the enemy any more!"
3: 50+ Assist in mission summary... be proud of that... that means that without the theifs, you would have had that many more kills...
P.S. Keep up the free DLC and we may just end up loving you Bioware (vice just liking you for this great game!)

What the hell is "stealing kills"?

When you're lighting someone up then some d bag finishes them off. You get the assist.

[Chardonney]

I finally had to admit; vanguard. God knows I've tried to give them a chance but my annoyance meter is starting to hit the red level and fast. Just had a silver match and one person was vanguard, with absolutely no sense of teamwork. He/she kept getting killed constantly and those charges + novas started to drive me freaking crazy. Also the constant screen shaking actually gave me a headache (I'm a sniper). He/she was executing those novas non-stop. I wish I could have kicked him/her out of the match. >:- /

[NM_Che56]

LeTtRrZ wrote...

 Oh no no no.  Drell adepts that spam reave.  WRWRWRWRWRWRWRWRWRW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quiet.  FINALLY!

WRWRWRWRWRWRWRWR!!!!!

Oh come on!!!!!

Post reported for hilarity!

[zephuurs]

Master Che wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

SmawgSS wrote...
Although I agree that Vanguards are annoying as heck, here's a few suggestions.
1: Play with others as you would like to be played with (not like that ;p)  In other words, don't steal people's kills, it's rude..
which leads to..
2: If someone (Vanguard *cough* *cough*) keeps stealing kills, and they die... don't bother with the rez.  It send's a message when; "Oh, I'm owning!  OMG I just got tackled by 2 pyro's and 3 geth warriors! OMG! MB I should't randomly charge into the enemy any more!"
3: 50+ Assist in mission summary... be proud of that... that means that without the theifs, you would have had that many more kills...
P.S. Keep up the free DLC and we may just end up loving you Bioware (vice just liking you for this great game!)

What the hell is "stealing kills"?

When you're lighting someone up then some d bag finishes them off. You get the assist.

It's a team game, deal with it. In fact, a vanguard needs to charge an enemy at times just to keep his barrier up.

[Navasha]

The ONLY thing that annoys me about MP is the people that can't hit the ready button. Why are people in a lobby if they aren't ready to play.

[jotun04]

Corners are a good vanguard's best friend.

Well, maybe second best. A sentinel or adept throwing out constant warps or reaves is his best of best friends.

[SleepingWarrior]

Master Che wrote...

When you're lighting someone up then some d bag finishes them off. You get the assist.

Eh, as long as they aren't dying constantly and putting the rest of the team at risk who cares who gets the kills? I'm more than happy getting my 50 assist medal and a 25 or 50 kill medals a match.

The problem has more to do with the people who don't play the class right and muck up play for everyone else, not "stealing" "YOUR" kill.

And no, I am not a Vanguard, never have been and maybe never will play as one since I prefer to keep distance between myself and things that can kill me.

[Atheosis]

Master Che wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

SmawgSS wrote...
Although I agree that Vanguards are annoying as heck, here's a few suggestions.
1: Play with others as you would like to be played with (not like that ;p)  In other words, don't steal people's kills, it's rude..
which leads to..
2: If someone (Vanguard *cough* *cough*) keeps stealing kills, and they die... don't bother with the rez.  It send's a message when; "Oh, I'm owning!  OMG I just got tackled by 2 pyro's and 3 geth warriors! OMG! MB I should't randomly charge into the enemy any more!"
3: 50+ Assist in mission summary... be proud of that... that means that without the theifs, you would have had that many more kills...
P.S. Keep up the free DLC and we may just end up loving you Bioware (vice just liking you for this great game!)

What the hell is "stealing kills"?

When you're lighting someone up then some d bag finishes them off. You get the assist.

And?

[Invellous]

Vanguards. Always charging at the Enemy I am about to Head Shot. Using Nova close to my position making it harder to aim. Dying somewhere random due to Charging blindly forcing me to use Tactical Cloak to save them.

Adepts if their explosions are causing the screen to shake.

Anyone who stands in front of me, or right where I would be aiming when I peek out of cover.

Friendly Fire should be enabled in at least Bronze.

[J0HNL3I]

Vanguards, they either tank ahead and take all the kills (no point in playing if one guy can take down the whole wave) or they just die every wave then rage quit

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

On gold, any class that doesn't fall into the "strong class" catagories.