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[XINVADER]

My Asari senses are tingling... I declare this unreleased character overpowered!!!

...seriously?

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

DivinusErus wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

DivinusErus wrote...

Yeah. Pass judgement on something we know almost nothing about.

If they end up being overpowered in a side by side comparison with the current Krogan classes, I'm glad. Finally Krogan will be viable.

Krogan are already viable.

Sure, fun times on Bronze. 

No, on Gold, very viable. You just need to know how to play them right.

Except they are useless on gold.

Stardusk makes the Arguement that because Krogan are viable on gold(which they are) they don't need a buff.

The majority of other Krogan gold players view is that although Viable we are not competitive with other classes and against certain factions on gold(Geth) we are damn near useless and probaly the hardest class to accomplish full extraction with. 
Currently anything a krogan can do another class can do better.

[mrcanada]

 They never really had much value anyway on gold.  At least now they will have a dominate class.

[elessarz]

Remember: if they have Charge, they won't have Tech Armor or Fortification.

[Shadow of Terror]

Too be fair, it's not the Krogans fault...

It's just that Soldier and Sentinel classes are pretty useless in the first place.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

elessarz wrote...

Remember: if they have Charge, they won't have Tech Armor or Fortification.

They will probaly have barrier though. 

[Zerox Z21]

elessarz wrote...

Remember: if they have Charge, they won't have Tech Armor or Fortification.

They get barrier which is the biotic version of fortification/defense matrix.

[elessarz]

Zerox Z21 wrote...

elessarz wrote...

Remember: if they have Charge, they won't have Tech Armor or Fortification.

They get barrier which is the biotic version of fortification/defense matrix.

In that case, sign me up.

[Tectonium]

BLY78NOR wrote...

This will be my ultimate trolling class, watch out for my pink Krogan vanguard

[Rolenka]

The vanguard is already pretty OP. I wouldn't be surprised if the krogan took it up a notch.

[Tectonium]

hector000 wrote...

im a space turtle

Sir, you just (sadly) made my day.

[Omega-202]

elessarz wrote...

Remember: if they have Charge, they won't have Tech Armor or Fortification.

There is so much ignorance in this thread....

But to the general topic:

Will they be better than Human Vanguards?  No.

Will they be better than Krogan Soldiers and Sentinels?  Yes, without a doubt.  In fact KVg's will make the other Krogan obsolete.  In a direct comparison, the Vanguard is better in every way.

Will they break the game?  No.  They'll probably clean up on Bronze and Silver and be a top scorer without a question.  They're viability in Gold will be a bit low...except for their ability to spam the newly buffed Disruptor Ammo -> Charge -> Tech Burst combo better than any set up I can think of.  

60% damage resistance while in Rage (easy when you're going to be in melee so much), 25% Barrier power boost, only a 20% weight penalty from Barrier, the LARGEST carry capacity in the game with a shotgun reduction (making the GPS a viable weapon for low cooldowns), the strongest melee, the highest shield/health pool and the best mobility power in the game.  They'll be very solid, but they're still lacking in utility and finesse.  

They'll be no more powerful than a Salarian Infiltrator, Salarian Engineer, Asari Adept, Drell Adept or well played Human Vanguard or Sentinel.  

Modifié par Omega-202, 07 avril 2012 - 12:10 .

[heybigmoney]

Would rather have a legitimate high tier option than another subpar class. The carnage soldier build is currently the best krogan and he still sucks compared to other options. The sad truth op is that not all classes are going to be equal. Asari vanguard is pretty obsolete but I would rather have a powerful asari adept than a worthless one just so she is equal to her vanguard counterpart.

[Mozts]

I'm waiting to see everyone burning tongues. I could say KV will be useless. And I have as much evidence for my prediction, as you guys have for yours.

We know nothing until the damn thing is out.

Modifié par Mozts, 07 avril 2012 - 12:15 .

[Kajan451]

Stardusk wrote...

Does anyone else think this is OP

No, we ain't playing a competition, we playing a cooperation game. Even if the Krogan came with a Cain equipted i wouldn't care. Heck, if all i had to do was playing shield until he fired his Cain, i wouldn't mind either. 

I really don't care, and the only place on the scoreboard that i am concerned about.. is the last one and if my name is on it. And if it is, i am trying to get better at what i am doing.

[Omega-202]

Mozts wrote...

I'm waiting to see everyone burning tongues. I could say KV will be useless. And I have as much evidence for my prediction, as you guys have for yours.

We know nothing until the damn thing is out.

That is a load of crap.

We know 2 of his 3 active powers and we can assume his passives are identical.  We know how a Krogan Soldier plays and basically we know you're swapping Barrier for Fortification (nearly identical) and Charge for Inferno Grenade (which we all know how good Charge is).  

Look at my post above.  We know the facts.  60% damage resistance and the largest health pool by a wide margin WITH a power that replenishes full shields every 3.X seconds, the highest melee damage in the game, a free pass into melee range with one power, a MINOR cooldown penalty (20%) and a 25% power damage boost.  

That's directly better in every way over the other Krogan.  Are the other Krogan useless?  If the answer is no, then you're just talking because you like to sound like a fool.

[fearan1]

Unless he gets nova he will not be OP top tier likely not Op though.

[SovereignWillReturn]

Krohan Sentinel can have 30% melee+30% damage reduction with maxed Tech armor+Lift Grenades.

Krogan Soldier is a massive tank meant for 200% gun carrying ownage.

Krogan Vanguard will be low weight charge crazy.

All balanced to me

[fearan1]

In though they could also tweak his charge to limit it to a 50 % shield restore but 30 % weapon damage increase or something

[elessarz]

Omega-202 wrote...

Mozts wrote...

I'm waiting to see everyone burning tongues. I could say KV will be useless. And I have as much evidence for my prediction, as you guys have for yours.

We know nothing until the damn thing is out.

That is a load of crap.

We know 2 of his 3 active powers and we can assume his passives are identical.  We know how a Krogan Soldier plays and basically we know you're swapping Barrier for Fortification (nearly identical) and Charge for Inferno Grenade (which we all know how good Charge is).  

Look at my post above.  We know the facts.  60% damage resistance and the largest health pool by a wide margin WITH a power that replenishes full shields every 3.X seconds, the highest melee damage in the game, a free pass into melee range with one power, a MINOR cooldown penalty (20%) and a 25% power damage boost.  

That's directly better in every way over the other Krogan.  Are the other Krogan useless?  If the answer is no, then you're just talking because you like to sound like a fool.

Simmer down, kid. This is a discussion, not an epeen competition.

[sheltomlee]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Bronze difficulty will be ruined!

[RamsenC]

If Krogan Vanguard ends up having two mediocre abilities along with charge he will be the worst Vanguard. Nova, cluster grenades, and stasis are all very good abilities so unless Krogan Vanguard has options better than those he will probably be the worst. Rolling is also more important to Vanguard than any other class. 

Don't get me wrong though I will use the **** out of this class, but I highly doubt he will be OP at all.

P.S. How do we know he has barrier? Wasn't shown in the trailer, unless a dev said something.

Modifié par RamsenC, 07 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[Mozts]

Omega-202 wrote...

Mozts wrote...

I'm waiting to see everyone burning tongues. I could say KV will be useless. And I have as much evidence for my prediction, as you guys have for yours.

We know nothing until the damn thing is out.

That is a load of crap.

We know 2 of his 3 active powers and we can assume his passives are identical.  We know how a Krogan Soldier plays and basically we know you're swapping Barrier for Fortification (nearly identical) and Charge for Inferno Grenade (which we all know how good Charge is).  

Look at my post above.  We know the facts.  60% damage resistance and the largest health pool by a wide margin WITH a power that replenishes full shields every 3.X seconds, the highest melee damage in the game, a free pass into melee range with one power, a MINOR cooldown penalty (20%) and a 25% power damage boost.  

That's directly better in every way over the other Krogan.  Are the other Krogan useless?  If the answer is no, then you're just talking because you like to sound like a fool.

Its not like a gameplay designer fell off his chair while napping, came up and said "Krogan Vanguard!"... They put tought, time and tests in this, believe it or not. And they also know the facts, more than we do.

Even if its OP, won't last a week. They can nerf like they did with Stasis and Falcon.

And maybe, and just maybe its ment to be OP. People forget there is a value system attached to everything. If its OP, means its probably a hard stuff to get. I'm still waiting for my Asary Adept by the way.

And one more time... Wait for the damn **** to be download and played. Than we can talk like we know the game better than anyone else.

Modifié par Mozts, 07 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[TheLostGenius]

it will totally retcon all existing character classes.

ME3 MP will know be called- Krogan Vanguard's Epic Wars

[Joyce_Esther]

Anything for tuchanka.