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[Autochthon]

Stardusk wrote...

Boopitty wrote...

Barrier is confirmed as a second ability, third is unknown.

Exactly. Barrier so they will have a total barrier of 3000 or something.

I don't think yo uactually know what barrier does...

[Trickshavv]

There are gonna be dead krogan everywhere.

Do you know why?

Movement penalty. Because they're gonna be slower than everyone else means they're gonna be zipping around WAY WAY more often then your typical Vanguard does already.

[TLK Spires]

you're whining about something that hasn't even happened yet. it might be time to take a break from video games.

[Omega-202]

Mozts wrote...

Its not like a gameplay designer fell off his chair while napping, came up and said "Krogan Vanguard!"... They put tought, time and tests in this, believe it or not. And they also know the facts, more than we do.

Even if its OP, won't last a week. They can nerf like they did with Stasis and Falcon.

And maybe, and just maybe its ment to be OP. People forget there is a value system attached to everything. If its OP, means its probably a hard stuff to get. I'm still waiting for my Asary Adept by the way.

And one more time... Wait for the damn **** to be download and played. Than we can talk like we know the game better than anyone else.

I NEVER said they were OP.  I argued that they weren't useless as you started blathering about.  

The fact of the matter is that in a 1 to 1 comparison against the Soldier and Sentinel, the Vanguard is better in every way.  

[RazRei]

Like it matters the Krogan race in the MP needs an OP class. Its by far the weakest race in the game even when played right.

[GGW KillerTiger]

 Wow stop complaining about coop stuff being over powered. Especially the coop stuff that isn't even ****ing out yet! God peopel stop being so ignorantly dumba and blind. Just because people can use it better than you does not mean it is over powered! 

Bioware please please please undo all the god damn nerfs/buffs done since launch!

[Autochthon]

Omega-202 wrote...

Mozts wrote...

Its not like a gameplay designer fell off his chair while napping, came up and said "Krogan Vanguard!"... They put tought, time and tests in this, believe it or not. And they also know the facts, more than we do.

Even if its OP, won't last a week. They can nerf like they did with Stasis and Falcon.

And maybe, and just maybe its ment to be OP. People forget there is a value system attached to everything. If its OP, means its probably a hard stuff to get. I'm still waiting for my Asary Adept by the way.

And one more time... Wait for the damn **** to be download and played. Than we can talk like we know the game better than anyone else.

I NEVER said they were OP.  I argued that they weren't useless as you started blathering about.  

The fact of the matter is that in a 1 to 1 comparison against the Soldier and Sentinel, the Vanguard is better in every way.  

I am a firm believer in Lift Grenade being OP. But that might be me.

Krogans in general need buffs for better gold viability. Maybe we get luky and the DLC includes those kinds of buffs. Which would make the vanguard not strictly better.

[iliiillliill]

Stardusk wrote...

This should seem obvious, but it will have an insanely high barrier, a natural affinity for SGs and Charge. Does anyone else think this is OP and we will be seeing only Krogan Vanguards from now on? What bothers me more is the fact that Krogan Sentinels and Soldiers will have lost their value now.

I think a Krogan with charge will be VERY popular - I'm guessing there's a worm in that apple somewhere. 

I don't care, I love it!  I wasn't going to play Vanguard and now it looks like I will. 

[wolfstanus]

Op must have gone 88mph when going to school/work/bar for he saw the future.

[AreleX]

krogan soldiers and sentinels had no value to begin with, aside from comic relief

[MisterVQ]

The Krogans had the Genophage to keep them in check.
The Vanguards have the Glitchophage to keep them in check.

[ParanoidDrone]

My money's on Charge/Barrier/Carnage. No actual proof but I can't imagine them making a class without any sort of non-CQC power.

Spec Charge for weapon synergy and full barrier regen and Barrier for damage protection. Throw on the Barrier when the round starts and keep it there. Charge a group and go to town. Get rage going for extra protection.

[shepskisaac]

I can't wait for him. I'm gonna wreak havoc with him

[Syrus101]

well they should be the most tanky Vanguard at least... and not be made out of PVC glue and cardbord...

the Krogan Vanguard MIGHT actually make me like the class lol

[Streitenfeld]

Stardusk wrote...

This should seem obvious, but it will have an insanely high barrier, a natural affinity for SGs and Charge. Does anyone else think this is OP and we will be seeing only Krogan Vanguards from now on? What bothers me more is the fact that Krogan Sentinels and Soldiers will have lost their value now.

Considering Vanguards are terrible in gold, maybe they will actually have one useful race for gold after this DLC.

[XxUNFORGIVENxX]

Anyone else sick of seeing those two letters around this forum..*sigh*.....really i doubt it will be "OP" at all except maybe on bronze, but everything owns on bronze........besides its not even out yet so you cant "really" say it will be anything until you try it.

seriously though why are so many people complaining about things been "OP' in a co-op completly non-competitive game?.I could understand enemies needing tweaks but half the sh*t been moaned about is friggin stupid.

[Xaijin]

Stardusk wrote...

This should seem obvious, but it will have an insanely high barrier, a natural affinity for SGs and Charge. Does anyone else think this is OP and we will be seeing only Krogan Vanguards from now on? What bothers me more is the fact that Krogan Sentinels and Soldiers will have lost their value now.

Then they should probably get on upgrading those two classes now, huh, cause they've needed it for a while.

[kingsims]

Vanguards are not good on gold because when you charge a banshee there is a high chance you will get insta killed or stunlocked by the geth prime meele attack. The top tier enemies will less likely stagger on gold/sliver. Will the class be good on bronze... Yes. The class won't outdps an infiltrator or a pure bioexplosion adept.

[Currylaksa]

A Vanguard without roll is not gonna survive in Gold.

I'm placing my bet on Drell Vanguard tier.

[Peer of the Empire]

kingsims wrote...

Vanguards are not good on gold because when you charge a banshee there is a high chance you will get insta killed or stunlocked by the geth prime meele attack. The top tier enemies will less likely stagger on gold/sliver. Will the class be good on bronze... Yes. The class won't outdps an infiltrator or a pure bioexplosion adept.

Conclusion:  buff krogan


Krogans already own silver are fine on silver. *shifty eyes* More buffs! 

I'm amazed that anyone brings up bronze.  Must mean krogan need even bigger buffs than I thought

Bioware, behold!  The majority of gold players cannot play a krogan on anything higher than bronze.  Buffs, more buffs!

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 07 avril 2012 - 02:17 .

[xxprokillazxx]

Maybe he will get lift grenades ?

[Fierydragon30]

I don't really see the "whining" in this to the posters in the thread, all the OP is saying is that the other Krogans will become useless in comparison to the Krogan Vanguard >.>

[Sabresandiego]

Do I think that a vanguard without nova, and without roll, who moves slow as molassess without sprinting is going to be overpowered? Nope

I do think he will be the best krogan though, and that could indeed make the other krogan classes seem obsolete. I mean tech armor vs fortification vs charge is a no brainer.

[Currylaksa]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Do I think that a vanguard without nova, and without roll, who moves slow as molassess without sprinting is going to be overpowered? Nope

I do think he will be the best krogan though, and that could indeed make the other krogan classes seem obsolete. I mean tech armor vs fortification vs charge is a no brainer.

Isn't it Charge + Barrier?

[mastercheif-117]

Broganisity wrote...

The way I see it the Krogan Vanguard will play like the Vanguards of ME2. I haven't seen the full class skill-list, if there is one actually available, but I have a feeling the KV won't have the massive Melee damage of a Krogan Soldier...though, yes would probably be considerably more useful than the original two krogan in the hands for an expert...

...Otherwise expect the see dead vanguards, dead krogan, and dead krogan vanguards EVERYWHERE.

In the official post it was also stated that these were older, battlemaster-type Krogans. What they lacked in combat fluidity and strength they make up for in biotics so... yeah, lower melee damage and slower movement speeds balanced by stronger biotic capability.