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The Krogan Vanguard will make all the other Krogan obsolete, i.e. will be way too OP.


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cgvhjb

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I've heard that instead of nova Krogan Vanguards will be getting an ability that kills everything between point A and point B as they charge. True story bro.

Oh and they turtle up like sonic the hedgehog when they charge.

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I would have liked krogan vanguards who had barrier instead of charge. It would both be balanced (biotic abilities+krogan durability and melee) and not be stupid (flying krogans).

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cgvhjb wrote...

I've heard that instead of nova Krogan Vanguards will be getting an ability that kills everything between point A and point B as they charge. True story bro.

Oh and they turtle up like sonic the hedgehog when they charge.


Best idea ever.

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I have great fun with my Krogan Soldier on Silver. Dunno why they're getting no props. carnage-gps-gps-carnage-gps-gps-melee-carnage-gps-gps. Whee!

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Currylaksa wrote...

Yup, nothing more annoying than biotic charge into a stunlock frenzy because everything hunters do stagger you.


Whether or not they fix stunlock on krogans will be the defining issue for me regarding the usefulness of this class.  Any race/class can get through bronze with a little common sense and krogans can go through silver as long as they play defensively (meaning you tank up instead of going for melee and shoot until THEY close on you.. not the opposite)... but simply can't compete on gold regardless of build.  There is no way I'm going to play a Krogan Vanguard if they don't fix the stunlock... no point in letting those shotgun blasts/plasma cannon shots/melees/etc stunlock you even sooner by biotic charging into them!

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I want the Krogan Vanguard....NAY...I NEED IT IN MY ARSENAL!!!

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PaperAlien wrote...

I would have liked krogan vanguards who had barrier instead of charge. It would both be balanced (biotic abilities+krogan durability and melee) and not be stupid (flying krogans).


Krogan already have fortification, without charge they would play exactly the same ie not enough damage on gold compared to infiltrators and adepts

Instead of an across the board damage buff which could be even more illogical, the devs have opted to give krogan a power that will depend on player skill to fix them

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ForTuchanka wrote...

Currylaksa wrote...

Yup, nothing more annoying than biotic charge into a stunlock frenzy because everything hunters do stagger you.


Whether or not they fix stunlock on krogans will be the defining issue for me regarding the usefulness of this class.  Any race/class can get through bronze with a little common sense and krogans can go through silver as long as they play defensively (meaning you tank up instead of going for melee and shoot until THEY close on you.. not the opposite)... but simply can't compete on gold regardless of build.  There is no way I'm going to play a Krogan Vanguard if they don't fix the stunlock... no point in letting those shotgun blasts/plasma cannon shots/melees/etc stunlock you even sooner by biotic charging into them!


As long as it's not geth krogan can be very aggressive on silver

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WhySoeSerius

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Why you ask for nerf before it even come out?

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AreleX wrote...

krogan soldiers and sentinels had no value to begin with, aside from comic relief


Disagree.

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Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

robertm2 wrote...

who cares. krogan are already useless on gold and silver anyways maybe this one wont be so bad. there supposed to be slower than the others anyways.


useless on Silver?

haha your funny. 


The mythology that Krogan are useless on every level persists, not even my video and thread proved otherwise. Basically haters will hate.

#162
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No, it will not. A Vanguard charges into something, and can then either Nova or dodge out of the way. The Krogan Vanguard can do neither. So if he doesn't kill what he's charging at instantly, he's a sitting duck.

I'll definitely play one, but I think he'll be the kind of Vanguard that dies terrifyingly often.

It'll be a nice to have a Krogan that's actually a bit different. Krogan Sentinel and Krogan Soldier are exactly the same class. I have no idea why there's two of them in there. They do the exact same things.

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its very possible that the Krogan Vanguard will have Barrier given both the Soldier and the Sentinel have a defensive power.

That would make the Krogan absolutely useless, Barrier is one of the most useless powers ever. It would make powers recharge slower, a wasteful power for a biotic based character.

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Please don't cry OP for a class you HAVEN'T seen in actual game play yet? It's just pointless..

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http://i.imgur.com/ALOdr.png

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MrSpanky169

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charge, barrier, doesn't matter
charge in, melee and shoot around, pop barrier, charge floating enemies for explosive fun times, repeat. I was hoping for an adept type krogan that's like Wrex from ME1 (basically no charge) but this could still be very fun. At least it will be different than the other 2 krogans and bioware seems focused on getting krogans in melee to use that Rage passive which is a good thing.

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IT WILL BE GLORIOUS.

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I AM KROGAN

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DarthKilby wrote...

I AM KROGAN


You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take him away!

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Kronner wrote...
Charge - 50% damage resistance for 4 seconds after every Charge

I might be missing something obvious here, but what do you mean? Charge in itself doesn't give any damage resistance. The only "damage resistance" you get as a Human Vanguard are the invulnerability frames. If one did, in fact, get 50% damage resistance every 4 seconds for simply charging, the resistance would be up all the time and combined with the invulnerability frames you'd practically never die, except to instant kills.

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Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

krogan soldiers and sentinels had no value to begin with, aside from comic relief


Disagree.


name me one useful thing a krogan (on gold) can do better than another class, besides carry heavy ass weapons because they have no good active abilities (which are really the meat and potatoes of the game).

don't worry, i'll wait.

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AreleX wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

krogan soldiers and sentinels had no value to begin with, aside from comic relief


Disagree.


name me one useful thing a krogan (on gold) can do better than another class, besides carry heavy ass weapons because they have no good active abilities (which are really the meat and potatoes of the game).

don't worry, i'll wait.


weapons are the meat - abilities are the potatoes :D 
did you not see the video with 2 lvl 1 krogans completing gold vs reapers ? True it would be prolly easier for them with other classes but the class is not completely useless.

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MrSpanky169

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AreleX wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

krogan soldiers and sentinels had no value to begin with, aside from comic relief


Disagree.


name me one useful thing a krogan (on gold) can do better than another class, besides carry heavy ass weapons because they have no good active abilities (which are really the meat and potatoes of the game).

don't worry, i'll wait.


I typed in krogan gold on youtube and ran across this lol youtu.be/e_08GDp2mbE

EDIT: I can not link to save my life

Modifié par MrSpanky169, 07 avril 2012 - 08:03 .


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It will serve as an interesting idiot magnet. If there's two classes that attract reckless, dumb players, it's the human Vanguard and the Krogan Soldier. Now we've got one that's both. That's not to say everyone who plays those classes is a dope... just a lot of them.

Mark my words, come the 10th, we're gonna see a lot of players making Krogans look *bad*.

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methodshaolin wrote...

weapons are the meat - abilities are the potatoes :D 
did you not see the video with 2 lvl 1 krogans completing gold vs reapers ? True it would be prolly easier for them with other classes but the class is not completely useless.


to clarify, it is not *completely* useless, it is *comparatively* useless. you can use a krogan and do just fine, but there will always be something better suited to whatever you may want to do with it.

does not exist in a vacuum, etc.