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No gameplay only cut scenes.

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Maybe Joker + EDI are going to fight against an evil synthetic polar bear on the Lost planet.

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bioware finds the idea endgame boss fight too video gamey....but they put it in every other video games they made...

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El Capt Mexico wrote...

Eleventhchild wrote...

I'd like to point out the final boss of Mass Effect was Soverign not saren, he downloads himsilf in the synthetic shell of Sarens body, after (you talk him down to suicide or  actually fight him on his surfboard)

IF the Indoctrination theory is true, then the final encounter being fighting indoctrination is fine by me however, once al lis said and done some questions do remain, as for a boss battle though,
Im hoping for a TIM indoctrinated by Harbinger boss fight much like Saren part 2 where Soverign controls him but improved, with 3 phases or more etc etc

though if we do not get any further gameplay with this free ending, then atleast let us see the normandy and ships defeat Harbinger :D either way I wanna make him pay as, i still feel like its unfinished bussiness.


Very clever pointing out the details of the final battle in ME1, you're right.

And a fight against a Harbinger controlled Illusive Man would have made sense and the different stages of the battle is something that would have worked. Almost like the more the Illusive Man gets pissed, the more control Harbinger has over him.


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So TIM becomes the boss of all bosses? Why would you want that? He's a human, he's not a reaper, he's not particulary menacing, or particulary evil. Fighting him would be meaningless.

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they originally had you fighting the illusive man kind of like saren in me1 but the scrapped the idea thinking the boss fight was too cliche or something like that. It was in the art book i got with the game where they had a picture of IM as reaper controlled

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Honestly, I don't know how you're supposed to fight anything after being ripped apart by pure energy or blown up after bleeding out.

It would have been nice though, if Harbinger had actually tried to stop the Crucible. Just remove the Space Brat and have Harbinger trying to get through to Shepard... amp up the tension, give Harbinger a last line, and watch Shepard defy him.

But that would imply change, which they are not performing.

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DarkWarSoldier wrote...

No gameplay only cut scenes.

 

everytime some says this about the extended cut...  a kitten, a puppy,  a baby  chick,  panda cub all die.. 

its that sad. 

Only cutscene then really.. whats the ****ing point in them doing this. .

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nitefyre410 wrote...

DarkWarSoldier wrote...

No gameplay only cut scenes.

 

everytime some says this about the extended cut...  a kitten, a puppy,  a baby  chick,  panda cub all die.. 

its that sad. 

Only cutscene then really.. whats the ****ing point in them doing this. .


The gaming media will act as if the slideshow is actually what the fans asked for.

Modifié par sistersafetypin, 07 avril 2012 - 01:36 .


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I seem to remember an older Bioware game, in the good ending once the antagonist blew his own brains out, the one controlling him took over his body and the protagonist was forced to fight the parts of the body that the controller had given the antagonist... I was honestly expecting that to happen here.

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My thread got locked cause this one was already up i guess so im gona copy paste what I had there

Please add a final boss fight, the final battle in Mass
Effect 2 was just so dam amazing, that I could not wait to see what the final
fight in ME3 would be. But then I got Marauder
Shields then God/Star Child did all of the talking then I saw Space Magic :/ Image IPB
 For the love of Shepard what happened
to Harbinger, was he killed did he eat some bad Human DNA and have a stomach
Ach so was unable to fight in ME3? Was He that reaper that  was shooting a laser at me right before
Marauder Shields or do all Reapers have eyes like that I don't know never heard
anything from him

 Image IPB

he did soooo much talking in ME 2


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AHHH YES Final Bosses.....
We thought that is to common in RPGs
So we thought hard and long about it and decided to have a 5 year old write our games ending...
All the kid said was I WANT MY SNIPER We still dont know what that means...

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FF VII - Sephiroth


Sephiroth wasn't the real boss it was Jenova.

You kill sephiroth basically with one rage attack because of aeris at the very end, but the real Boss Fight was with Jenova

I agree with you on everything else

Modifié par Douglas-042, 07 avril 2012 - 01:41 .


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I hope there's no final boss. Final bosses don't really fit a series like Mass Effect. I mean look at that giant terminator boss at the end of ME2, that was stupid. Having the final battle be done through dialogue is a lot better and fits with both the game from a gameplay perspective and with the lore.

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Mr.House wrote...

His name was Marauder Shields.


It's funny because it's true

 

Modifié par AxholeRose, 07 avril 2012 - 01:38 .


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Lets see, boss battles in the ME franchise...
Saren: Green Lantern knockoff / OP Geth Hopper - Ridicoulus fight
Terminator Human fetus reaper: Sucky fight if there ever was one
Tela Vasir: Lets take a common mob and add tonnes of armor/shields and 3 phases with adds, yup thats going to be great...
Rannoch Reaper: Really?
Kai Leng: Lets take a space ninja thats frustrating as hell if you didn't bring a shotgun (and if you did he is ****** easy)

Did I forget anyone?

Not the best track record for enjoyable gameplay.

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I think there's no final boss battle because BioWare saw the slack Deus Ex:HR took for having odd boss battles, and then the more recent gaming articles talking about how boss battles are becoming cliched and gaming doesn't need them anymore.

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I'm trying to see how fighting and beating either TIM or Harbring, which is better than TIM at least, would result in the solution of the reaper problem. Really can't see how beating just one of them would result in every reaper deciding it's not worth it, packing it up and leaving.

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The art book that came with my collector's edition indicated that the Illusive Man would have been the final boss in a more reaperized form. The art shows this form, it then goes on to say that the idea was scrapped because it felt too "videogamey." The only problem is THIS IS a video game. I think they did this because so many people complained about the human reaper robot, I don't think it was an amazing boss but that's only because it had no tension built up with the player, whereas Saren did and the Illusive man most certainly did.

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Laurencio wrote...

El Capt Mexico wrote...

Eleventhchild wrote...

I'd like to point out the final boss of Mass Effect was Soverign not saren, he downloads himsilf in the synthetic shell of Sarens body, after (you talk him down to suicide or  actually fight him on his surfboard)

IF the Indoctrination theory is true, then the final encounter being fighting indoctrination is fine by me however, once al lis said and done some questions do remain, as for a boss battle though,
Im hoping for a TIM indoctrinated by Harbinger boss fight much like Saren part 2 where Soverign controls him but improved, with 3 phases or more etc etc

though if we do not get any further gameplay with this free ending, then atleast let us see the normandy and ships defeat Harbinger :D either way I wanna make him pay as, i still feel like its unfinished bussiness.


Very clever pointing out the details of the final battle in ME1, you're right.

And a fight against a Harbinger controlled Illusive Man would have made sense and the different stages of the battle is something that would have worked. Almost like the more the Illusive Man gets pissed, the more control Harbinger has over him.


...

So TIM becomes the boss of all bosses? Why would you want that? He's a human, he's not a reaper, he's not particulary menacing, or particulary evil. Fighting him would be meaningless.


but you are Fighting him though, just with words instead. in the art book they had a picture of the illusive man in a monsterous form
http://i.imgur.com/YyFsR.jpg
which indicated that they had considered the idea of the boss batte agains thim anyway. I like the idea as 1 it lets us face our biggest foe in ME3-The Illusive man. and our biggest foe in ME 2 - Harbinger.

Not saying if i could get a different stand off with Harbinger id like to see what they could do with it, but that one is an already decent idea, used in the first game with different characters.

that said, i just imagined MGS4 style fist fight on the citadel tower with TiM lol

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Right, here is my post from another thread about a proper bossfight.

Basically instead Harby showing up for a second, owning us, then leaving Like a Boss, there is a huge ground battle while he shoots at us (like the Destroyer does while we wait for the missles to calibrate), Reaper ground forces everywhere, Normandy blasts a hole in Harby, he falls sideways, you board him, give a Derelict Reaper treatment to his mass effect core, he blows up, injures you, and then you can still have your limping scene BioWare.

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BioWare and EA are the final boss, the fight is one sided. And Casper has given us the finger.

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Also defeating Harbinger would provide a good end to the Commander Shepard Trilogy, especially a he came and annoyed, tried to kill and harvest us in the 2nd game.

i mean they could make other games (Real time strategy, first person shooter) maybe, or a new RPG storyline in ME4 which could have you following a new lead, during the events of ME 3. but it wouldnt be right having them take out Harbinger as he and Shepard are already against one another.

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SKRemaks wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

SKRemaks wrote...

I know!  You can fight The Illusive Man!  He can blow second hand smoke in your face for about 10 years, until you finally get cancer and die that way!!

What is this hang-up with having an end-boss? 

Seriously.

I really don't get it.

Queue everyone calling me stupid in

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2
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See you back in the of  oh 2007 when games had endings ..there was game called Metal Gear Solid 4 the ending of a long complicated story of War, heroism, love and honor. At the end of the last the game, there was a boss fight... on top of a Metal Gear...just like end if the first game. Though settings were different, in details it was showing how things had come full circle... 

A Boss Fight with a TIM pocessed by Harbinger  kinda like the one with Saren at the end of ME 1 would have been perfect.

and no are not stupid  :P


I've never played any of those games, but that's neither here nor there.

What I have played is every BioWare game to date, and I thought it was unique and interesting to NOT have a final boss fight.  As a matter of fact, I didn't even notice that there wasn't one, until the whole "Marauder Shields" crap showed up.

I was too busy being blown away by the ending, (and I mean that in a good way) to pay attention to the fact that there wasn't some arbitrary boss battle being thrown at me.
Different is good.  :wizard:



You've clearly never played Deus Ex 1. ME3 ending is exactly the same ending. Not so different, is it :/ 

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dafangirl wrote...

Depends on how you view a final boss? One that the player fights or could it be simply a cinematic fight.

There's some audio files out there where Joker brings in the Normandy and takes out Harbinger. I believe this would have been a great addition to the end sequence of events. Harbinger, after all, is purportedly the leader. Makes complete sense, then, from a strategic war standpoint, to take out the leader, which could defeat, if not seriously diminish, the opposing side's confidence.

I'm hoping that not only the audio files but some "cutting floor" type graphics exist and maybe this might be possible in the Extended Cut DLC.


Wow now, where are these audio files? Can you link to a source?
(Not doubting or calling you out, just interested)

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cuzsal wrote...

My thread got locked cause this one was already up i guess so im gona copy paste what I had there

Please add a final boss fight, the final battle in Mass
Effect 2 was just so dam amazing, that I could not wait to see what the final
fight in ME3 would be. But then I got Marauder
Shields then God/Star Child did all of the talking then I saw Space Magic :/ Image IPB
 For the love of Shepard what happened
to Harbinger, was he killed did he eat some bad Human DNA and have a stomach
Ach so was unable to fight in ME3? Was He that reaper that  was shooting a laser at me right before
Marauder Shields or do all Reapers have eyes like that I don't know never heard
anything from him

 Image IPB

he did soooo much talking in ME 2


Image IPB



...Are you serious? The stupid terminator human reaper? That was without a doubt the stupidest part of Mass Effect 2, and it shows what a terrible idea sticking a boss in just to have a boss is.