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[MartinJHolm]

Zarenthar wrote...

First: I'm hardly a kid I'm 27 and I have a daughter.

You still act like one.

[addiction21]

Dark83 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Zarenthar wrote...

I'm not a "kid"... Nerd. Are we back in stone age? I mean last game I couldn't bind every possible action was... ummm, wait I don't remember because it was probably on SNES.

Wait you could do key bindings on ps 1,2,3, sega ganisis, that sega console that came after, xbox, 360, N64, gamecube, and the WII? Man and to think I have been playing games wrong...

I thought everybody switched the directions to the buttons and the buttons to the directions. Was it just me and Zaren, then? :innocent:

This reminded me of when me and my sister with the orginal mario would hold the controller upside down to make it more difficult.

[LGWu]

Zarenthar wrote...
I'm not a "kid"... Nerd. Are we back in stone age?

 Agree
In IL2 if you cannot bind 30+ keys you are toast.

Zarenthar he is probally 12
Still hiding his Jism filled undies from mom

Kids always call others kids. They are not smart enought  say like
John Cleese
" thats the sort of blind philistine pig ignorance i;ve come to expect from non creative garbage such as yourself"

 now thats true style

[Kashtan]

The OP's question should go to our modding friends. Maybe they can do something about it. I do agree that some additional slots migth be in place. And it's not about skills/spells. As a rogue I have poisons, traps, flasks etc, and It would be nice to be able to access them w/o switching forth and back my bags.

[addiction21]

LGWu wrote...

Zarenthar wrote...
I'm not a "kid"... Nerd. Are we back in stone age?

 Agree
In IL2 if you cannot bind 30+ keys you are toast.

Zarenthar he is probally 12
Still hiding his Jism filled undies from mom

Kids always call others kids. They are not smart enought  say like
John Cleese
" thats the sort of blind philistine pig ignorance i;ve come to expect from non creative garbage such as yourself"

 now thats true style

So what sets you apart or makes you the exception to that rule?

[Kashtan]

edit : double post. sorry

Modifié par Kashtan, 04 décembre 2009 - 03:55 .

[LGWu]

MartinJHolm wrote...

Zarenthar wrote...

First: I'm hardly a kid I'm 27 and I have a daughter.

You still act like one.

Im 50 and have a psychologist daughter
She would eat  miss 'your a kid' alive.. lol can i make a vid of that?
Kinky .. im a BAD MAN
Your a Kid, Martin
Do not presume that YOU know know how  to act..
What you call right action or right thinking is usually all that brings grief to this poor world
 idiots that spout ethical correctness based on what others say is correct  are a dime a billion

Some will spout off topic. but the post i question is on topic?
There are forums and there are farces.. 'Your a kid' wound last 30 seconds on a real phlosophy forum

Modifié par LGWu, 04 décembre 2009 - 04:10 .

[Majspuffen]

Sad to see the OP got flamed for mentioning WoW. I agree with him. More binds would be nice. I can adapt though, didn't have any trouble clicking my way through the game. If there were no pause-button, I'd have trouble though

[Morif]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Can't anyone just respond to a post without flying off the handle because someone says they play WoW?

I doubt they did because he plays WoW. They did because his first post had this.. breath of elitism that WoW-Players  (especially in the upper tier) are well known for (I play, or played, too. Guild broke apart after clearing Totgc 25).

Since I play the console version it does not affect me either way. But yeah, I don't see why not. *support*

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

Well I fully agree with above and I don't even play wow, we need more keybinds as an option it makes the game easier to handle, I too play the game pretty much without pausing when really at it and it annoy me alot that all my direct actions only go form 1 to 0... would be nice if you could bind the other slots as well depending on what you want to setup.



Doing it the Neverwinter Night style, the first game that is where you could use 1 to 0 but by holding shift down you would be having a second bar to play around with so it go shift+1 as it is.



It might be difficult to understand for console fanatics, but for us who really flourish with many options it would be a nice addon to the game.

[LGWu]

LGWu wrote...

MartinJHolm wrote...

Zarenthar wrote...

First: I'm hardly a kid I'm 27 and I have a daughter.

You still act like one.

Im 50 and have a psychologist daughter
She would eat  'your a kid' alive.. lol can i make a vid of that?
Kinky .. im a BAD MAN
Your a Kid, Martin
Do not presume that YOU know know how  to act..Zal sounds to me like the sort of person i  would greet and invite to my home. In expectation of interesting conversation. You  i would say . Sorry noone lives here ^^^^ off
What you call right action or right thinking is usually all that brings grief to this poor world
Idiots that spout ethical correctness based on what others say is correct  are a dime a billion

Some will spout off topic. but the post i question is on topic?
There are forums and there are farces.. 'Your a kid' would last 30 seconds on a real phlosophy forum

Modifié par LGWu, 04 décembre 2009 - 04:21 .

[DaLabbes]

There's a mod out that changes the skillbar when you change weapon sets, so I guess you could also do that for another action. It only works for the main character, though, and it has a delay of ~1,5 seconds. Maybe you could put a request into the toolset forum? I guess the guys there are more...helpful than in this forum.

Edit: You can find the project here: http://social.bioware.com/project/671/

Modifié par DaLabbes, 04 décembre 2009 - 04:30 .

[LGWu]

So what sets you apart or makes you the exception to that rule?

Cool

The same ethical/moral set that says i can call you a fakir. You ry for a high position with your reply..
yet we both know all of us are mud.

Good try. tho i have only limited repsect for ambiguous comments

There are no rules but those of reality. Gravitics planks consant   inertia exct 
What rule did i say i was enforcing?

[LGWu]

"Gentile or Jew

O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consisder Phebas, who was once handsome and tall as you."

T.S Eliot

Modifié par LGWu, 04 décembre 2009 - 04:54 .

[Eurypterid]

Stop the arguing and address the OP's point: he wants more keybindings. I, for one, think it would be a great idea, if the devs can do it.

[Deathstyk85]

well, honostly im not going to attack him for playing wow, or flame him or whatever.

however i do see this as a common problem "mostly" with people who played wow, where they could have a million key bindings. i play the game on the xbox, so i have 8...and then i have the little circle wheel thing, wich took some learning, but now i play it like a pro. unfortunately some people who come from a wow background get very used to it, and then expect the same things from every other game they play. for the most part, those addons that let you do that, were made outside of blizzard/activision by modders. so you can rightly expect the same here, a mod will no doubt be made later on to accommodate you, but i would not expect bioware to make this adjustment, because as someone else said, they have many more things that should take a higher priority. cutting down the number of keys you click is pretty low on that list.

and yes, i did play wow for a while, and i do know how that works, i never used any of the custom ui mods, but i had a few rl friends who couldnt live without them.



one last comment lol, someone mentioned how this would all be very diffacult, if they couldnt pause. it is for that very reason, that you can pause. lol

[LGWu]

Eurypterid wrote...

Stop the arguing and address the OP's point: he wants more keybindings. I, for one, think it would be a great idea, if the devs can do it.

of course thay can
they canmake the ai 10 times bette rtoo  , but will they

>?

[Dark83]

I'd rather they fixed the memory leak.

[LGWu]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

one last comment lol, someone mentioned how this would all be very diffacult, if they couldnt pause. it is for that very reason, that you can pause. lol

lol

if we could not pause  we'd be ****ed
We can pause because no single mind can do 4 peoples acts in real time.
no we could but the acts would be scattered and the party falls down 1 ded 2 ded.. you know that path
So i pause and give orders in say 30 secs max,,,thats fair no?
This proposition obviously comes from a an RTS mouse clicker... they are hugetalented at controlling units and mobs... but are also the people who say.. theres is too much talking in dragoage,
he wants to know why his party cannot turtle

lol

Modifié par LGWu, 04 décembre 2009 - 05:13 .

[Landozelig]

This game clearly has 2 playstyles to it. Those that don't want to pause during combat, and people like me who can't pause enough. I like to micromanage every character (I disable all tactics except I make my characters drink health potions and eat dog biscuits when their about to die). I'll even go sofar to say I'd love an option to slow down the battle to 3/4, 1/2 or even 1/4 speed so I can zoom in and really watch what's going on.

That being said, I think if they could do it, they should put in more key bindings to help the players that don't want to pause. I wouldn't want people to tell me how I should play, so why tell this guy how he should play?

As far as "I have a daughter/son" as any indication of maturity (usually accompanied by "I own x houses" and "I drive x sports car" and "I make $x") - a simple google search shows the youngest father was 8 years old and the youngest mother was 5 years old. So while that's really disturbing, it really proves nothing.

Have a nice day!

[Osprey39]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Can't anyone just respond to a post without flying off the handle because someone says they play WoW?
The OP is entirely correct. There is no reason not to allow the rebinding of every single key in the game. I would argue that the game should even let us bind multiple commands to the same key so we can trigger more than one thing at a time.
I'd never use such a feature (I'd rather there be a pause button in the UI so I could play entirely with a mouse), but there's no reason to force us to use a particular key for a particular feature. Games do this only to reduce the customer service burden (when people call for help, it's easier to help them if you know what their control scheme is. Since most of us never call customer support, I don't think we should pay the price to make CS easier.
The OP is entirely correct. Unlimited keybinding would be superior.

Well let's start with his thread title:  "Limited keybindings= fail" 

The tone of that title is kind of snotty and then he goes on in the post to talk like he's some kind of uber badass that is so awesome, the only way he can find a challenge in the game is to play Nightmare mode without pausing.  Are you still wondering why people are ripping on him or is it obvious now?

[Deathstyk85]

Osprey39 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Can't anyone just respond to a post without flying off the handle because someone says they play WoW?
The OP is entirely correct. There is no reason not to allow the rebinding of every single key in the game. I would argue that the game should even let us bind multiple commands to the same key so we can trigger more than one thing at a time.
I'd never use such a feature (I'd rather there be a pause button in the UI so I could play entirely with a mouse), but there's no reason to force us to use a particular key for a particular feature. Games do this only to reduce the customer service burden (when people call for help, it's easier to help them if you know what their control scheme is. Since most of us never call customer support, I don't think we should pay the price to make CS easier.
The OP is entirely correct. Unlimited keybinding would be superior.

Well let's start with his thread title:  "Limited keybindings= fail" 

The tone of that title is kind of snotty and then he goes on in the post to talk like he's some kind of uber badass that is so awesome, the only way he can find a challenge in the game is to play Nightmare mode without pausing.  Are you still wondering why people are ripping on him or is it obvious now?

nope its pretty obvious. i chose to state my opinion clearly and without attacking someone.
i could have just said "lolz you l0ze cuzz you playz wow loser" but i fealt like my approach seemed more effective way of getting my point across, because when you attack someone like that, even if you may have a good point in there somewhere, they shut down and go on defense mode, and then a forum just turns into people fighting

[LGWu]

Landozelig wrote...

This game clearly has 2 playstyles to it. Those that don't want to pause during combat, and people like me who can't pause enough. I like to micromanage every character (I disable all tactics except I make my characters drink health potions and eat dog biscuits when their about to die). I'll even go sofar to say I'd love an option to slow down the battle to 3/4, 1/2 or even 1/4 speed so I can zoom in and really watch what's going on.

That being said, I think if they could do it, they should put in more key bindings to help the players that don't want to pause. I wouldn't want people to tell me how I should play, so why tell this guy how he should play?

As far as "I have a daughter/son" as any indication of maturity (usually accompanied by "I own x houses" and "I drive x sports car" and "I make $x") - a simple google search shows the youngest father was 8 years old and the youngest mother was 5 years old. So while that's really disturbing, it really proves nothing.

Have a nice day!

I hear you ... i sometimes pause like every second for 5 minutes of combat
I HAVE to have control of every members actions. probably because im a wargamer and
play battles in turns, not realtime.
To be honest this ability is exatly why i play the game and BG and NwN2
I detest games where i cannot pause.
And delete them post haste from my smokin raptor

Power to the pause i say

 And to all you who say you win combats in insane mode without pasing..
Dont lie to me  i;m you dad..

Modifié par LGWu, 04 décembre 2009 - 05:33 .

[Skydiver8888]

well, i pause during combat all the time, and i also would like more keybinds...search for my posts, i have been asking for that (and the ability to unbind the camera movement from home/end) since release day.



it's not because i don't want to pause...it's because it's more immersive and interactive for me to be able to press keys while watching my characters rather than having to take my eyes away to hunt for the right box to click.



yes, i am an MMO player (not currently wow, though) but really, there are some good things MMOs have introduced to the industry, and if you think about it, UIs are one of those things.

[Gabo]

From a developer's point of view, its not nice when someone calls you an FT right from the bat, so I agree with those who say that the OP could have written a better feedback post.



In any case, the majority of people who play games are not power users who memorize the whole keyboard to be able to play in the most efficient way. Most use the mouse which is much more intuitive but can be slower. In our testing, we did not have such a power user so when the feedback came back it was decided that the keyboard bindings we had were enough so we went with that.



Now that we have feedback from a greater number of players we can see that we may have missed the playing style of a few. We'll see what we can do in the future with this feedback. But once again I will say that there are ways of saying things that won't get anyone angry.