I'm done with Bioware until whenever they fix the ending. It's up to Bioware to decide when that is. It may be a year it may be never. We'll see. At this point though I am not optimistic.
So whos done?
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HumingTurtle
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#77
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 11:51
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Caz Tirin wrote...
But EA? People lay far too much blame on them. I'm not defending them, per se. But people give them way too much credit.
If some crappy author was signed by TOR books, would you refuse to ever buy another book published by them? They do have a hand in the author's story, after all.
Given what was said at PAX, I seriously believe that "someone" was putting serious pressure on Bioware to release the game sooner, rather than later. I would imagine it went something like this (EA to Hudson) "Hudson, we've already delayed release once, we need this game out asap to boost earnings. Get it done or you wont get your bonus!"
My point being that Bioware has a record of some really good games and EA has a record of rushing it's projects. I am inclined to believe that a) Bioware bit off more than it could chew with all the variables and a promised multifaceted ending &
EA was pressuring them to release their next "hit game". All in all, I would say the blame lies equally between both the corporation and the subsidiary. As for my dedication to Bioware, I still hold out a little hope that the "real" endings are coming, but at this point I would be satisfied to have an ending that allows me to play any of the games again without the strong desire to puke. If any "clarification" dlc doesnt do at least that, I will not preorder another EA game ever, ever again.
#78
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 11:53
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Eeyup. Though I'm not selling them. I will hold onto my games as a memorial to what Bioware used to be.
Pretty much this, I mean if you dont even have the courage to stand up to your fans at PAX then that's just sad.
#79
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 11:55
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Depends if the DLC is awful or not. Awful=no more purchases; Not awful=Wait for reviews.
#80
Posté 06 avril 2012 - 11:56
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On PC. Everything uninstalled.
I'll watch the new cut scenes on youtube if I think about it, but as for anything else I'm out.
Good luck all.
I'll watch the new cut scenes on youtube if I think about it, but as for anything else I'm out.
Good luck all.
#81
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:04
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I'm still waiting to see what we get with the DLC this Summer, before even thinking of throwing in the towel.
#83
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:07
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- Finished...
(Blade Runner)
#84
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:08
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HumingTurtle wrote...
So whos done with BW and EA now? You know sell all your BW games never touch another one. Because right now it sure as hell looks like a good idea.
I'm less likely to buy BW from here on out without a lot of fan input after release, epsecially if the ending DLC doesn't work for me when it comes out, but my Baldur's Gate games are not going anywhere except on my shelf where they belong,
#85
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:13
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Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
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#86
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:14
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I'm done after ME3, I'm just going to take my free DLC and ignore the rest that costs money. I'm not blacklisting EA published games as they do publish awesome games on occasion by worthy developers, but after this ending business with Bioware, I simply can't support them anymore.
If the extended ending actually makes me happy (IT can still be incorporated at this point), maybe I'll consider some ME3 DLC, but no more future games from Bioware for me, that's a fact. Dragon Age died with DA2 as far as I'm concerned, and I have no interest of any more ME games. Wasteland 2 will be my most anticipated RPG for next year.
If the extended ending actually makes me happy (IT can still be incorporated at this point), maybe I'll consider some ME3 DLC, but no more future games from Bioware for me, that's a fact. Dragon Age died with DA2 as far as I'm concerned, and I have no interest of any more ME games. Wasteland 2 will be my most anticipated RPG for next year.
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:15
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I'm totally going to deprive myself of things I'd enjoy in the name of spite.
#88
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:16
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Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
Actually we very clearly said we don't want closure, we just want them to make our choices matter, and for their promises to be valid.
They gave us closure instead and ignored their lies.
False advertising is illegal, I hope to hell the FTC investigation ends up fining them.
#89
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:16
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Mass Effect was the first Bioware series I played and got into. I tried DA:O too and liked that, but didn't go for DA2 especially after I heard the reactions.
Anyway, I was always in it for Mass Effect. All things considered, I'm probably done with them. I don't hate the ending all that much (it has its problems, but hopefully the EC dlc will fix my issues), but the way Bioware is responding to all this is not endearing at all. Between all this "artistic integrity" spiel and what comes across as thinly veiled insults in the few PR statements they've made and all that
Anyway, I was always in it for Mass Effect. All things considered, I'm probably done with them. I don't hate the ending all that much (it has its problems, but hopefully the EC dlc will fix my issues), but the way Bioware is responding to all this is not endearing at all. Between all this "artistic integrity" spiel and what comes across as thinly veiled insults in the few PR statements they've made and all that
#90
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:17
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BioWare?
I'll wait for the DLC. I'll download and play the DLC. If I feel like there is a purpose to playing the game and making choices then I will. If not, I'll uninstall all three games for HD space, and bar an exceptionally good DA3 (probably not happening with EA) or a new really good series (definitely not happening with EA), I won't give BioWare another penny.
EA?
As much as I hate them, I know one of the many groups they enslave will develop something fun and I'll buy it.
I'll wait for the DLC. I'll download and play the DLC. If I feel like there is a purpose to playing the game and making choices then I will. If not, I'll uninstall all three games for HD space, and bar an exceptionally good DA3 (probably not happening with EA) or a new really good series (definitely not happening with EA), I won't give BioWare another penny.
EA?
As much as I hate them, I know one of the many groups they enslave will develop something fun and I'll buy it.
#91
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:18
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Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
You forgot "Relays make the ME universe", "No variety in the endings", "False advertising", "Plot holes galore!", and "Why is Shepard entirely screwed" and "Why can't Shepard just say no" and "Where do our EMS come in?"
#92
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:18
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I cannot say definitively that I am done with BW or EA, but I will be slow to purchase any game they market in the future; meaning I'll read player reviews from a number of forums and point of sale business sites and then make a decision. The ME series was fantastic for me. Right up to, but excluding, the ending. Still, I remember the BG series and KotOR 1 & 2 (stand alone game) and what BW is truly capable of developing. I won't cut my nose off to spite my face, so to speak, in this instance...afterall, ME 1 and 2 were terrific games, as was ME3 up to the last few minutes.
#93
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:19
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I'm as close to done as done can be.
But... like so many others, I am so emotionally invested in Mass Effect, that even when theres no hope, we still hope that maybe, somehow, it will be fixed and so we keep coming here.
But... like so many others, I am so emotionally invested in Mass Effect, that even when theres no hope, we still hope that maybe, somehow, it will be fixed and so we keep coming here.
#94
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:21
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Aesieru wrote...
Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
Actually we very clearly said we don't want closure, we just want them to make our choices matter, and for their promises to be valid.
They gave us closure instead and ignored their lies.
False advertising is illegal, I hope to hell the FTC investigation ends up fining them.
How do you know your choice won't matter with the DLC? Would you rather we had nothing at all? I wanted a choice to have a happy ending and I think they can even manage that with this DLC, have a little faith. Also please don't get me started on how stupid the FTC thing is.
#95
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:21
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i dont think i will ever BUY any DLC from them
IF i hear that DA3 is good i will rent or get used
(and i NEVER get games used)
i was willing to let DA2 pass as a test to get more sales but after ME3 and the way they treat the fans i will not give them any cash
IF i hear that DA3 is good i will rent or get used
(and i NEVER get games used)
i was willing to let DA2 pass as a test to get more sales but after ME3 and the way they treat the fans i will not give them any cash
#96
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:24
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HumingTurtle wrote...
So whos done with BW and EA now? You know sell all your BW games never touch another one. Because right now it sure as hell looks like a good idea.
I love how you people, who are actually the vocal minority now, are all leaving the forums because people are calling you out for being whining A-holes.
Just saying.
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#97
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:24
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gmboy902 wrote...
Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
You forgot "Relays make the ME universe", "No variety in the endings", "False advertising", "Plot holes galore!", and "Why is Shepard entirely screwed" and "Why can't Shepard just say no" and "Where do our EMS come in?"
Some of these could be answered in the DLC, look I wasn't very happy with the ending either, I thought they were really stupid and made no sense, while this DLC might not give us everything we want, it gives us something please I know it's hard but have a little faith.
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:25
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We'll see.
I'll wait until the ending DLC comes and then make up my mind.....i'm not optimistic though....but it is possible they could fix this mess.
If it doesn't well then i'm done with Bioware.
They've insulted the ME series, the fans and frankly their own artistic "integrity" with that incompetent ****** of an ending and PR bs.
In the end I truly hope they reap what they've sown.
I'll wait until the ending DLC comes and then make up my mind.....i'm not optimistic though....but it is possible they could fix this mess.
If it doesn't well then i'm done with Bioware.
They've insulted the ME series, the fans and frankly their own artistic "integrity" with that incompetent ****** of an ending and PR bs.
In the end I truly hope they reap what they've sown.
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:26
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I'm done since i saw this when it comes to EA.
For bioware? I don't know. We'll see. But i think ME3 was the last game i pre-ordered.
I'm done since i saw this when it comes to EA.
For bioware? I don't know. We'll see. But i think ME3 was the last game i pre-ordered.
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#100
Posté 07 avril 2012 - 12:28
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Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
Berty213 wrote...
Aesieru wrote...
I'm done.
Makes sense
Fans: We want more closure at the end of the game.
Bioware: We are listening to all feedback
Fans: We want it to be free DLC!
Bioware: We are releasing Extended cut DLC for free which will give you all more closure, it will be released in the summer and it will be free!
Some Fans: NOPE! I'm done
Why don't you just wait until the DLC, then leave if you are not still not happy by then, I will even join you
Actually we very clearly said we don't want closure, we just want them to make our choices matter, and for their promises to be valid.
They gave us closure instead and ignored their lies.
False advertising is illegal, I hope to hell the FTC investigation ends up fining them.
How do you know your choice won't matter with the DLC? Would you rather we had nothing at all? I wanted a choice to have a happy ending and I think they can even manage that with this DLC, have a little faith. Also please don't get me started on how stupid the FTC thing is.
First off, the FTC was created solely for the purpose of investigating trade and advertising illegalities. So we're letting them do their damn job.
As for their things... there is no way 42 plot holes will be resolved by modifying the ending scenes... because that doesn't fix the ending level, the final level, the intertwined links that are illogical and plot-hole filled, or the fact we were ****ING LIED TO.
