56 réponses à ce sujet

[Dasher10]

Hero travels to Seheron with Zevran and Sten. Also plans on searching for Morrigan. Flemeth coems for Morrigan's kid. You'll have the ability to say who you loved through dialog options like in KOTOR II. Ogrehn, Dog, Wynne and Shale will probably not return at all. Alistair will be mentioned in passing or make a short cameo but is probbly ruling with Anora. You may or may not find Leliana again. Tevinter will probably be seen since there is constant war between Tevinter and Seheron. Story is mostly about tracking down Morrigan, stopping the ghost of Flemeth, killing darkspawn remnants and then Bioware will most likely give us a twist to end all twists that none of us can ever see coming. Right now, I only have the beginning figured out.

Again, I'm just going by what the good epilouge is. (Well good, except for female PCs who loved Alistair. I'm going with the ending that has the mst sequel potential.)

[RunCDFirst]

I don't see Orlais in there.

[Dasher10]

Orlais or The Anderfels will probably be the setting for III. There are still locations in Ferelden on the Thedas map that haven't been seen yet and will probably be DLC. The PC never said that he had the chance to go to Orlais but could travel with Sten to Seheron and could also take Zev along. It's doubtful that the PC will rule Ferelden since that would kill all sequel potential and DA:O sold well enough to warrant a sequel. It'll probably be a franchise since there are enough nations and lore to keep the DA world alive for at least a good decade. Maybe five games, possibly more.

[RazorNightngale]

There probably won't be a "canon" ending. To do so would alienate fans and totally break immersion. Just think about Knights of the Old Republic and how many fans cringe at the thought of canon Revan being male.

[EricHVela]

I think the death of the Archdemon is canon. Schmooples will probably figure in greatly in canon.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Wasn't there a thread like this, like, yesterday?

[SarEnyaDor]

Even if women don't make up 50% of the gaming population, they are sizeable enough that to totally discount them in that way would be hugely insulting and jarring, especially with how huge the choices and impacts of your relationships can be in this game.



They will have to either do what everyone thinks they are doing with ME2, or what they did with Throne of Bhaal and let you load up old character or re-roll a new Grey Warden to continue on or set it far enough in the future that the particulars of what happened are fuzzy. I don't really see that happening, why waste the love the got going now by scrapping the characters and creating new ones? There are alot of complaints on these threads about many things, the lack of likeable/funny/endearing characters isn't one of them.



Just from a business point of view it would be stupid to totally throw away a decent fanbase who spends hours playing then hours TALKING about playing and wondering about the fate of the party members just like that.



As to what WILL happen, all I have to say is "Does it have gryphons in it?"

[RunCDFirst]

Books to pursue for future endeavors.
Lost countenance: Ferelden to Orlesian Phrase Book
-Must not offend the potential landlords
Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade
-Terrible two's indeed!
Forest Fall: Truth and Legend in the Search for Arlathan
-Survivors? poppycock!
The Origin of Theses: Knowing more than Everyone without Looking Like a Jackass
-Never get the time to read this. Maybe there's a stage play?


(This is probably helpful for discussions of future storyline)

I imagine that they'll keep as many of the choices unaffect sequels. I think Morrigan and the choice around her may be made canon, I'm not sure about the rest.

[Rythuria]

Pretty sure Morrigan's gonna be having the baby no matter what, on my rogue's playthrough I refused Morrigan's deal and didn't talk to Alistair for her. She ran off, though in the epilogue it still mentions her as being seen pregnant.

[RunCDFirst]

Rythuria wrote...

Pretty sure Morrigan's gonna be having the baby no matter what, on my rogue's playthrough I refused Morrigan's deal and didn't talk to Alistair for her. She ran off, though in the epilogue it still mentions her as being seen pregnant.

So long as a male PC knocks boots with Morrigan during the game, she's pregnant in the end.

Say what you want, but that girl's fertile!

[SarEnyaDor]

As a female all it said about Morrigan (when I didn't do the ritual to become queen) was that she was last seen by the Frostback Mountians and later a dark hair mage was had integrated herself into the court of the Empress or Orlais, nothing about being preggers - also I haven't killed Flemith on ANY of my games thus far. LOL It just felt too wrong after her rescue and all.

[Eonassassin]

RunCDFirst wrote...

Rythuria wrote...

Pretty sure Morrigan's gonna be having the baby no matter what, on my rogue's playthrough I refused Morrigan's deal and didn't talk to Alistair for her. She ran off, though in the epilogue it still mentions her as being seen pregnant.

So long as a male PC knocks boots with Morrigan during the game, she's pregnant in the end.

Say what you want, but that girl's fertile!

Yea at first I thought this was a bug but nope. 

RazorNightngale wrote...

There probably won't be a "canon" ending. To do so would alienate fans and totally break immersion. Just think about Knights of the Old Republic and how many fans cringe at the thought of canon Revan being male.

If there is a sequel there will be atleast some sort of a canon ending, doesn't have to be a male character or female. (I mean you cant expect them to make 10 different sequels for each different ending?? or can you??) There will be a few things that they can manipulate according to your ending but main things like the search for Morrigan (which is about the only thing I can think of right now since there are so many other possibilities) will have to be there.

[scootermcgaffin]

ReggarBlane wrote...

I think the death of the Archdemon is canon. Schmooples will probably figure in greatly in canon.

Schmooples killed the Archdemon.

[Eonassassin]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

As a female all it said about Morrigan (when I didn't do the ritual to become queen) was that she was last seen by the Frostback Mountians and later a dark hair mage was had integrated herself into the court of the Empress or Orlais, nothing about being preggers - also I haven't killed Flemith on ANY of my games thus far. LOL It just felt too wrong after her rescue and all.

Hmm odd I was under the impression if you don't kill Flemmeth then the ending says Morrigan was dead.... But as a female PC Morrigan will never be preggers unless you get Al or Log to sleep with her. (since you cant sleep with her or even if you could you wouldnt be able to impregnate her during your journey) 
That gives me a thought I wonder if Morrigan can get pregnant if you use the mod that allows you to sleep with her even if you are a female PC. 

[RunCDFirst]

Eonassassin wrote...
Hmm odd I was under the impression if you don't kill Flemmeth then the ending says Morrigan was dead.... But as a female PC Morrigan will never be preggers unless you get Al or Log to sleep with her. (since you cant sleep with her or even if you could you wouldnt be able to impregnate her during your journey) 
That gives me a thought I wonder if Morrigan can get pregnant if you use the mod that allows you to sleep with her even if you are a female PC. 

I spared Flemeth and Morrigan was still seen alive.

Course, that just gives more fuel to the Flemeth=Morrigan crowd...

[Saurel]

Rythuria wrote...

Pretty sure Morrigan's gonna be having the baby no matter what,

I haven't come across Arl Foreshadow yet. But if the second book is called Raising Spirits: Offspring and the Fade.

I could see the potentially hinting at revival or focus on Morrigan's kid. Potentially. I really need to see the context.

[scootermcgaffin]

I think, though certainly don't know, that Flemeth only kills Morrigan if you tell her you're not going to help her kill Flemeth. Telling her you'll help but then letting Flemeth live doesn't do it.

[Ravauviel]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Even if women don't make up 50% of the gaming population, they are sizeable enough that to totally discount them in that way would be hugely insulting and jarring, especially with how huge the choices and impacts of your relationships can be in this game.

They will have to either do what everyone thinks they are doing with ME2, or what they did with Throne of Bhaal and let you load up old character or re-roll a new Grey Warden to continue on or set it far enough in the future that the particulars of what happened are fuzzy. I don't really see that happening, why waste the love the got going now by scrapping the characters and creating new ones? There are alot of complaints on these threads about many things, the lack of likeable/funny/endearing characters isn't one of them.

Just from a business point of view it would be stupid to totally throw away a decent fanbase who spends hours playing then hours TALKING about playing and wondering about the fate of the party members just like that.

As to what WILL happen, all I have to say is "Does it have gryphons in it?"

Great post! My sentiments exactly! As for clamoring for a direct sequel, I highly doubt there will be one where you'll be able to continue on with your character - just too many choice permutations to take into account (apart from the dark ritual one); an expansion probably, perhaps even for those who made the Ultimate Sacrifice - Black City/Fade Torment anyone?

[Kolaris8472]

My PCs journeys with Sten/Zevran and Dog to search for/hunt down Morrigan (I cared for her, but she's dangerous...) sounds so appealing to me I honestly don't know if I could accept another canon.



Its sort of how in KotOR II, Revan was ALWAYS Dark Side and male. I just couldn't stomach it any other way.

[RunCDFirst]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

My PCs journeys with Sten/Zevran and Dog to search for/hunt down Morrigan (I cared for her, but she's dangerous...) sounds so appealing to me I honestly don't know if I could accept another canon.

Its sort of how in KotOR II, Revan was ALWAYS Dark Side and male. I just couldn't stomach it any other way.

That's funny, I couldn't stand anything but a female Revan...

[Dasher10]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

My PCs journeys with Sten/Zevran and Dog to search for/hunt down Morrigan (I cared for her, but she's dangerous...) sounds so appealing to me I honestly don't know if I could accept another canon.

Its sort of how in KotOR II, Revan was ALWAYS Dark Side and male. I just couldn't stomach it any other way.

Exactly what I was thinking. It's the ending with the most sequel potential. It will still let you play as the same character with 2-4 of the same companions but it stil leaves enough ambiguity that aBioware can still come up with a story that most of us will enver see coming.

[fanman72]

I get the impression the following were meant to happen from Bioware:



-Your character (a male...sorry ladies!) reluctantly accepts that offer from Morrigan towards the end.

-Your character was meant to live

-Allistar is meant to be king, regardless of whether he's ruling alone or with Anora



Dragon Age doesn't strike me as a game that won't provide a sequel in the future. There are too many loose ends to provide closure. Morrigan's offer was far too strong for that simply just to be brushed off and it's already providing a lot of speculation regarding future Dragon Age expansions or games. We all know that's going to be a major focal point.

[fanman72]

RunCDFirst wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

My PCs journeys with Sten/Zevran and Dog to search for/hunt down Morrigan (I cared for her, but she's dangerous...) sounds so appealing to me I honestly don't know if I could accept another canon.

Its sort of how in KotOR II, Revan was ALWAYS Dark Side and male. I just couldn't stomach it any other way.

That's funny, I could never picture anything outside of a light side male Revan and light side male Exile
That's funny, I couldn't stand anything but a female Revan...

[magor1988x]

DA 2: 6th Blight



Flemeth returns whether or not you killed her (Even Morrigan says Flemeth returns when she gets her real grimoire)



Whatever character decisions you made in DA:O will port over into DA 2 EXACTLY like ME 1 will port DIRECTLY into ME2.



Kill Ashley Williams? Ashley is dead in ME2... Kill Kaiden Alenko? Kaiden is dead in ME2.



If you dismissed or killed characters in DA:O they'll be dead or gone in DA 2. (References might be had if you just booted them, or they may even return as enemies).



If you sacrificed yourself in DA:O expect to come back as a new Grey Warden. If you lived you get to kick arse again and go for the sixth Old God/Archdemon. (There are 7, you killed 5 in DA:O so it sets up DA as a trilogy... How nifty for Bioware)



Basically what your going off of (OP) is unlikely... The whole point of these decisions is to have impact that carries over.



Wynne will likely die before DA2... But Shale could be mortal gain depending on how that plays out.



Imagine Commander Shepard's search for the "Perfect team" in Mass Effect 2 and just put that in Dragon Age 2...



Zevran in Antiva? Maybe you got Antiva and recruit him. Oghren in Denerim? Gotta stop by and pick him up. Shale squishing Darkspawn in the Deep Roads? Pit stop and get her back in the fight.



Add in a few new characters (especially if you killed or lost a few) and tada your off and running.



Anyhow it's all gonna be about Flemeth, whether or not you had a kid with Morrigan, and the 6th Archdemon.

[SleepyBird]

fanman72 wrote...

I get the impression the following were meant to happen from Bioware:

-Your character (a male...sorry ladies!) reluctantly accepts that offer from Morrigan towards the end.
-Your character was meant to live
-Allistar is meant to be king, regardless of whether he's ruling alone or with Anora

Dragon Age doesn't strike me as a game that won't provide a sequel in the future. There are too many loose ends to provide closure. Morrigan's offer was far too strong for that simply just to be brushed off and it's already providing a lot of speculation regarding future Dragon Age expansions or games. We all know that's going to be a major focal point.

I dearly hope there isn't any one "meant to happen" ending.  If they want one particular ending they should find a way to make that ending the only option.  They could be clever and have numerous ending that have the same essential consequences down the line.  But to say that the main character must live or die or accept Morrigan's deal or make Alistair king would alienate far too many players who made different choices.

It's cruel to think of playing a game I enjoyed this much only to find out later I played it "wrong".