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[Scalpels]

Mademon wrote...

Shouldn't she have had scales, feathers or fur, or something?

Actually no. The codex is pretty clear on these things.

[NubXL]

Retake Tali's face.

[Tritium315]

Those fingers blew my mind

[J. Finley]

I don't mind the image that much. What I'm pissed about is having her take the mask off multiple times just for us to see the back of her head.

[Jedifan421]

Mademon wrote...

I was simply dumbfounded they made her look so human. It could have been a shopped stock photo if her anatomy made sense to carry the seeds of the desert grass. @_@ Shouldn't she have had scales, feathers or fur, or something? Skin and the hair on her scalp seem like they would be insufficient for this task.

Yes, probably because she isn't human and shouldn't be modeled after one entirely. Only for the basis of her face. But EA forced BioWare to cut corners so this is the result.

[Kalyppso]

Scalpels wrote...

Mademon wrote...

Shouldn't she have had scales, feathers or fur, or something?

Actually no. The codex is pretty clear on these things.

I clicked on your link, and granted only skimmed the text, but I am truly interested, could you quote the phrase or whathaveyou that specifies the solution you are proposing?

[Scalpels]

comrade gando wrote...

I used to think they were just trolling with the picture they gave us, I mean she's out of her suit for crying out loud how did she take this picture?!

Perhaps like this?

[FS3D]

I think it would be a good idea for someone who has skills with 3D modelling and texture work to go ahead and model a Tali face based on the stock image (with enough changes to avoid copyright claims) and put it inside the Quarian suit. I've seen one of those on DeviantArt, and wouldn't mind seeing an animation.

I'd even be willing to use one of my PC's as a render node (assuming the user is using either Lightwave or Blender).

[Daedalus1773]

Heh I was reading that liveblog realtime, and thought the same thing.

"Wait. Did they just say that they didn't put Tali in the game engine because they wanted to do her 'right', and then follow that up with an explanation of how amazing the engine was at converting the faces of real actors who looked utterly amazing all through the series?"

Wat?

[Daedalus1773]

Maybe Tali trolled Shepard, and sent him a pic of someone she found on Getty Images, because she has a Cthulu-tentacle-face.

[Jedifan421]

Scalpels wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I used to think they were just trolling with the picture they gave us, I mean she's out of her suit for crying out loud how did she take this picture?!

Perhaps like this?

Hilarious. But that's basically what BioWare implies. More evidence of a rushed product.

[comrade gando]

Scalpels wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I used to think they were just trolling with the picture they gave us, I mean she's out of her suit for crying out loud how did she take this picture?!

Perhaps like this?

apparently bioware thinks so too. They never explain it, EVER. Nostalgia Critic: Explain movie. EXPLAIN!!

[Scalpels]

Mademon wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Actually no. The codex is pretty clear on these things.

I clicked on your link, and granted only skimmed the text, but I am truly interested, could you quote the phrase or whathaveyou that specifies the solution you are proposing?

The entire first paragraph in the biology section contains a pretty specific set of descriptions. The most important would probably be " Quarian facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans in physical appearance."

[Senario]

This again? I will say, I am FINE with her face. Fix the hand and model her face into the character model behind the mask. After all, Tali fans deserved to see her face animated at the very least.

If we hadn't found out her face was a stock photo and the hand was correct, people wouldn't be complaining as much.

Is it lazy? Yeah kind of, do I dislike the face? No. It looks good enough and at this moment I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Jedifan421]

Daedalus1773 wrote...

Heh I was reading that liveblog realtime, and thought the same thing.

"Wait. Did they just say that they didn't put Tali in the game engine because they wanted to do her 'right', and then follow that up with an explanation of how amazing the engine was at converting the faces of real actors who looked utterly amazing all through the series?"

Wat?

This was my exact reaction as well. They honestly threw a hanging curve at me with that bull explanation.

[Valk72]

I would be fine with the picture if Tali has a 3d model...

[LadyWench]

Scalpels wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I used to think they were just trolling with the picture they gave us, I mean she's out of her suit for crying out loud how did she take this picture?!

Perhaps like this?

WIN

[Kalyppso]

Scalpels wrote...

Mademon wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Actually no. The codex is pretty clear on these things.

I clicked on your link, and granted only skimmed the text, but I am truly interested, could you quote the phrase or whathaveyou that specifies the solution you are proposing?

The entire first paragraph in the biology section contains a pretty specific set of descriptions. The most important would probably be " Quarian facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans in physical appearance."

Okay, so I totally missed that until you quoted it ... Because the site is not an official source and I'm crazy, let me turn on my game and check my codex. @-@ I shall return.

[sargon1986]

God... everytime I read something that Bioware said to the fans, it's making me sick... I'm disgusted... They truly think we are retards.

[liquiddemon]

EA forced them to cut corners? Is that why EA allowed them to take an extra 4 months to polish up the game.

Remember the original launch date was Nov. Of 2011.

[Jedifan421]

Senario wrote...

This again? I will say, I am FINE with her face. Fix the hand and model her face into the character model behind the mask. After all, Tali fans deserved to see her face animated at the very least.

If we hadn't found out her face was a stock photo and the hand was correct, people wouldn't be complaining as much.

Is it lazy? Yeah kind of, do I dislike the face? No. It looks good enough and at this moment I wouldn't have it any other way.

But you see, that's EXACTLY why people are complaining. All you stated is the reason why this photo and the explanation makes no sense.

All Tali's photo is really is another reason of many why Mass Effect 3 is a rushed, incomplete product.

[Kalyppso]

=I

Okay so the ME3 Codex says nothing of Quarian biology. I would assume the compiled information on the site is from experience with the Tali photo.

[lillitheris]

I've mentioned it tons of times that I thought deviating from their own concept art to make her just another pretty human was the wrong choice (if in line with the rest of the sexing up of ME3)…

BUT, I'd have been OK with them just spending the effort to 1. model her, and 2. doing the reveal in Rannoch.

[paxxton]

Tali looks like a human? Wow! There must have been a really long brainstorming session on that one.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 avril 2012 - 11:49 .

[lillitheris]

liquiddemon wrote...

EA forced them to cut corners? Is that why EA allowed them to take an extra 4 months to polish up the game.

Remember the original launch date was Nov. Of 2011.

Yeah, they originally gave them too little time (1,5 years is nowhere near enough), and then only extended it the bare minimum, leaving us with…this.