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[shoshbear]

Zkyire wrote...

Remember what I said about being pleasantly surprised by the civility in this thread as you guys didn't take the bait?

I've changd my mind.

Half the people in this thread are acting like retards.

Bunch of morons saying "Meer/Male shepard is better than Hale/female shepard" and "Hale/female shepard is better than Meer/male shepard" then proceeding to call each other sexist.

Seriously, **** you guys.

Truth.

[sedrikhcain]

Daennikus wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...

What I like is that both shepards are completely different. It makes for a totally different game when you go through a second playthrough as an opposite gender shepard.

True enough. Though on a strictly aesthetical standpoint, Femshep's body is weird. Compared to her mid-lower section --okay I'll say it, her butt -- her boney forearms freak me out.

Now, see, to my mind, that just means she's got it where it counts.

[ShepnTali]

Torrible wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

manshep has bigger muscles. gg femshep.

Plus, you need balls to take on the Reapers.

But balls are soft and sensitive, and a womans, er... stuff, can take a pounding.

[snakeboy86]

In my opinion, Femshep owns Manshep hard...I think I have more femsheps than brosheps

[TheProfessor234]

People are missing the big picture here.


Renegade Shepard > Paragon Shepard

[txgoldrush]

Mark Meer got better for ME3, autodialogue really helps him alot...but Hale's role in ME3 is the best of her career.

[Torrible]

ShepnTali wrote...

Torrible wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

manshep has bigger muscles. gg femshep.

Plus, you need balls to take on the Reapers.

But balls are soft and sensitive, and a womans, er... stuff, can take a pounding.

N7 armor groin guard?

Modifié par Torrible, 08 avril 2012 - 07:35 .

[txgoldrush]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

[LegendaryBlade]

txgoldrush wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

I can't get behind that at all, I felt like Meer nailed the whole scene there. 

[GuardianAngel470]

Since this isn't a serious discussion thread I don't expect any serious responses to this.

I played ME1, 2, and 3 with MShep and FemShep. Many, many playthroughs with MShep and 1 with Femshep that I carried all the way through.

I though that hands down Femshep was better than Mshep in ME1. She was more consistent, she was more emotive, she was more believable. MShep on the other hand was all over the place, ranging from Badass to I Can't Believe They Didn't Do Another Take. It got distracting and I ended up skipping most of his worst lines.

Things changed in ME2 however. Femshep, and by extension of course Jennifer Hale, sounded like she was trying too hard to sound threatening and badass. The deep, husky tones introduced in the second game in my opinion cheapened her character. Now lines that should sound like a normal person saying a normal thing sounds instead like a person who's trying so hard to be intimidating that they come off as phony.

MShep, and by extension Mark Meer, got significantly more consistent and his lines sounded less and less like a guy trying to act tough and more like a guy who is tough. His "soft" dialog, anything paragon or with crew, sounded more sincere.

However there were still parts of ME2 that I skip through because they still sound terrible.

Now ME3 comes along and Jennifer Hale drops some of her phony-sounding attempts at badassery, but not all of it, and Meer puts on his A game.

The consistency from both VA's was really impressive and Meer's "bad" lines are basically just slightly flat sounding, instead of his previous sick/nasally/creepery/off-tone stuff from the previous two games. Hale was also consistently good, but she never really struggled with consistency like Meer did.

All in all, you have to be a VA connoisseur to pick one or the other because of it. There are better reasons to like one or the other that ultimately fall squarely in the "Subjective Assessment" category.

[MerchantGOL]

txgoldrush wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

No. 

[Slash1667]

Silpheed58 wrote...

Manly men save the universe!

Manly men, men in tights

[txgoldrush]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

I can't get behind that at all, I felt like Meer nailed the whole scene there. 

He did, but so did Hale....she is just the better VA.

[LegendaryBlade]

txgoldrush wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

I can't get behind that at all, I felt like Meer nailed the whole scene there. 

He did, but so did Hale....she is just the better VA.

I could of agreed with you in ME1, but no. Not at all here. I'm in complete disagreement. I mean, Hale did a good job in the Anderson scene, but I feel like Meer did an amazing job. 

[txgoldrush]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

 I'm just going to use the Shepard/Joker dialogue on Thessia as an example.

How is this: www.youtube.com/watch

Better than this: www.youtube.com/watch   

Yeah, I know, "IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE," but the problem with that is that Hale sounds like that all the time.

Meer was pretty lackluster (in some ways) in ME and got much better on 2, but he hit his peak on Mass Effect 3. He killed it. There wasn't a line in the game he delivered that I thought was outright bad.

and Hale does Anderson's death FAR better than Meer.....

I can't get behind that at all, I felt like Meer nailed the whole scene there. 

He did, but so did Hale....she is just the better VA.

I could of agreed with you in ME1, but no. Not at all here. I'm in complete disagreement. I mean, Hale did a good job in the Anderson scene, but I feel like Meer did an amazing job. 

Both did an amazing job for their talents, but Hale is simply better.....

She puts more of a pained and more emotional voice in that scene than Meer does.

Thane's death is also another one where she does better than he does. Also Tali's suicide.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 08 avril 2012 - 07:20 .

[Merengues 1945]

Yeah, and my name it's queen Elizabeth II

[MakeMineMako]

While Sheploo will always be the iconic Commander Shepard FOR ME, the same cannot be said of others.

I don't even feel right playing a custom male Shepard.

But the beauty of this game is that Shepard can be whoever you want him/her to be.

Flame wars over this is bullsh*t.

[LegendaryBlade]

txgoldrush wrote...

Both did an amazing job for their talents, but Hale is simply better.....

She puts more of a pained and more emotional voice in that scene than Meer does.

Thane's death is also another one where she does better than he does.

Again, so, I just don't agree at all. Hale did a good job in the scene, but it just wasn't as well delivered at all. Meer did better in that scene, hands down. Meer felt more natural and real all the way until the magic space elevator.

And then I still think he delivered the 'yeah' and 'maybe' lines the best that could be done given the ****ty material. He sounds tired and worn.

[FrozenDreamfall]

Lol no not a thread like this again...I like both,they're amazing but for me,Hale all the way.

[goose2989]

You big stupid jellyfish!

So much better from Mark Meer

[MakeMineMako]

ShepnTali wrote...

Torrible wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

manshep has bigger muscles. gg femshep.

Plus, you need balls to take on the Reapers.

But balls are soft and sensitive, and a womans, er... stuff, can take a pounding.

I take it you've never heard of the "c*** punt", have you?

I know plenty of females who participate in soccer and martial arts who received such (by accident). They have related to me that it was not something they would like to experience again.

[Mandalore313]

Internet argument!

[Grimskull89]

I could never start a femshep play through cause the ME1 female models were ugly, and when I could make a decent looking one, the animations made them look ugly.. and the voice just made things worse. (Edit -- serious overbite issues)

Which is a shame, because clearly people love Hale but I just cannot get past the character models. Might do a play through in ME3 because the models have improved immensely... though it might be a while before I work enough courage to do another play through. Would also be interesting to see what is canon and etc, also how war assets are affected.

Modifié par Grimskull89, 08 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[RogueBot]

MakeMineMako wrote...


While Sheploo will always be the iconic Commander Shepard FOR ME, the same cannot be said of others.

I don't even feel right playing a custom male Shepard.

But the beauty of this game is that Shepard can be whoever you want him/her to be.

Flame wars over this is bullsh*t.

I originally wanted to make a custom Shepard, but (at least in ME1) custom Shepard's facial animations didn't look right. He looked like someone who had a botched plastic surgery that did nerve damage so they couldn't show as much emotion and their lips didn't work quite like they were supposed to.

So I made a Sheploo and I can't picture Shepard any other way now.