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[Johanna]

"Sorry, this video is currently unavailable."

Sometimes I hate tablets.

[TremulantOne]

xsdob wrote...

I do not agree with joe. I usually do, but he's not showing his usual impartial criticism that he usually shows.

He's basically just jumped on the pessimistic band wagon that I've become sick and tired of. No one can dismiss what the dlc will do, because they don't know jack didly about what the new content actually is. We can't celebrate this as a complete victory yet but at least wait until some actual evidence come out before you crucify them.

I can, and will, dismiss this DLC all but fully. They've come out and blatantly said it's not going to do what it needs to do to make these terrible endings even remotely decent. I can only guess what kind of magic plot fixing they're going to have to do to explain half the crap in the ending that literally makes NO sense. 

I'm also angry with Bioware as a company right now. The softball question, dev wuss out PAX panel they did today made me want to barf. The main reason, however, that I can't support Bioware anymore is that this DLC is them basically telling me that I didn't get it, that it's good, so good they're sticking with it no matter what. The fact that so many people spoke up at once has forced them to do something, which they're doing reluctantly all while saying "we're listening to your feedback!!" Hell, Joe might be right and Bioware is being forced to do something by EA. 

Either way they are the ones who don't get it. We know too much about what this game was promised to be and what went on during the dev process due to numerous quotes and the Final Hours app. ("Lot's of speculation!" anyone?) This is a company that is literally insulting our intelligence as customers.

Here's an analogy (and yes i know analogies suck.) Let's say I work at a burger restaurant and you order a plain cheeseburger. I tell you all about how juicy and delicious the burger will be and how savory the cheese is and your mouth is watering whilst you make your purchase. I serve you up an edible burger that tastes like crap, it's missing the cheese I promised and its overcooked and whilst edible to some, most people wouldn't consume it.
You tell me you hate it, that it wasn't what you were promised, and while I don't want to make another burger my manager says I need to make you happy.

I give you lettuce and tomato to put on the same burger. Don't whine, I'm not charging for condiments, you should be glad im doing anything for you at all. 

EAT IT AND BE GLAD BECAUSE I MAKE GOOD BURGERS! MY FEELINGS WOULD BE HURT IF YOU OFFENDED THE COOK! 

"CULINARY VISION"
(also throw in how many food critic awards my restaurant has recieved!)

Modifié par TremulantOne, 07 avril 2012 - 01:53 .

[mrgeth]

gotta agree with joe.. been given NO proof by bioware to believe otherwise

[xtroguyver]

Dridengx wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

and neither Joe or the rest of us have any reason to sit there and accept it.

But to an extend you are accepting it. You are still here on the company boards not moving on. Bioware heard you, they are working on the next DLCs for the next couple months. This ending closure you claim you don't even want will take them weeks to make. You actually think as time goes on they are going to go back and make a new ending for you guys? This is the best you'll get and imo, it's already enough.

You can't do anything else to Bioware that you haven't tried already unless you want to go to jail

Well if bioware extended cut dlc is going to solve all the problems with ME3 then boy they should be teasing us with mre info. Since the info we have been given so far hints otherwise. All they seem to be doing is trying to polish their turd of ending, instead of actually address the core problems with it and creating diverse endings which is what they orginaly promised us during devlopment of ME3

[warrior256]

I agree with him on everything except the IT bit. I never bought into that myself. But he nailed my initial reaction to seeing the annoucement perfectly

[Dap Brannigan]

The Seinfeld thing with Hudson's face is hilarious.

[Rashala]

essentially the extended Ending DLC Is EA Peeing on us and tellign us its raining

[xsdob]

Caz Tirin wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I do not agree with joe. I usually do, but he's not showing his usual impartial criticism that he usually shows.

He's basically just jumped on the pessimistic band wagon that I've become sick and tired of. No one can dismiss what the dlc will do, because they don't know jack didly about what the new content actually is. We can't celebrate this as a complete victory yet but at least wait until some actual evidence come out before you crucify them.

When the "pessimistic band wagon" happens to be the truth, you can't really avoid appearing to jump on it.

But you have no proof to back up your claim of "it's the truth", you decided they were wrong before they ever said anything, and now you just interpret everything they say as being wrong.

Fans complained about lack of clousure, no epilouges, not seeing war assets comming into effect at the last mission, and the lack of differenciation in the ending. Bioware says they're going to try and fix this and fans attack them for not removing the starchild and keeping the ending choices and colors.

Fans aren't thinking rationally and probably never will for a long time. Hysteria, tramatization, and a general decision that bioware will never fix the mistakes they made have turned you guys into a group of pessimist who can't understand the concept of bioware doing something good for their fans.

[ladymoonlight86]

If Bioware make my lover, Kaidan <3<3, make baby with Liara and Diana or another girl on the Normandy, ... I don't know what i'm going to do or say! I know i'm not the only one about that... Anyway, i love AngryJoe rewiew, he's right! They should take the indo. theory. Fans we like the original ending can chose or not to downloaded...anyway I don't know if i'm going to download the extended cut...

[Solaris1989]

I have to hand it to Angry Joe, he's right again. I cannot be optimistic about the 'Extended Cut DLC.' If all it's going to do is 'clarify' the crap ending we have, then why should anyone be excited about it. It's still crap, even if I now know why it stinks. God, I'm really beginning to hate BioWare. >

[xsdob]

The Angry One wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I do not agree with joe. I usually do, but he's not showing his usual impartial criticism that he usually shows.

He's basically just jumped on the pessimistic band wagon that I've become sick and tired of. No one can dismiss what the dlc will do, because they don't know jack didly about what the new content actually is. We can't celebrate this as a complete victory yet but at least wait until some actual evidence come out before you crucify them.

We go by what BioWare tells us, and by what they TELL US it will only be an extension and "clarification" of this ending.
You can clarify garbage all you want, it's still just garbage.

Don't tout the "wait and see" spiel. If BioWare intended something truly different where would be the harm in telling us?
No, they've flat out said they consider their "artistic integrity" more important than us, and neither Joe or the rest of us have any reason to sit there and accept it.

You are wrong, I have seen horrible movies turn into great movies with the simple addition of scenes that help to "clarify" what exactly happened. Waterworld comes to mind, nearly all the problems that film had vanaished with the inclusion of the deleted scenes, at least the plot and execution related problems, Kevin Costner is still a big problem.

[TransientNomad]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Holoe4 wrote...

saw it, he speaks for the community... that's one thing I like about him.

He speaks for the lunatic fringe of the community who wants to bury this DLC before we really know anything substantial about it.

We DO know they gave us one of the most non-sensical reviled endings of the decade.  We DO know they blatantly lied to us at least a dozen times on the material of this game. 

And you would presume to say that the "lunatic fringe" is wrong to question or be cynical?  Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  Guess what your doing.

[Wolfen919]

Hmm. Is it possible they can't change the ending because the game has been released and those who simply cannot download the new ending won't be able to play through it?

Either way, Bioware, you made your bed, so you must lie in it.

Modifié par Wolfen919, 07 avril 2012 - 02:00 .

[xsdob]

TransientNomad wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Holoe4 wrote...

saw it, he speaks for the community... that's one thing I like about him.

He speaks for the lunatic fringe of the community who wants to bury this DLC before we really know anything substantial about it.

We DO know they gave us one of the most non-sensical reviled endings of the decade.  We DO know they blatantly lied to us at least a dozen times on the material of this game. 

And you would presume to say that the "lunatic fringe" is wrong to question or be cynical?  Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  Guess what your doing.

Two years in and your already calling it for worst ending of the decade. You must have some strong pessimistic faith in bioware failing.

[Peranor]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Holoe4 wrote...

saw it, he speaks for the community... that's one thing I like about him.

He speaks for the lunatic fringe of the community who wants to bury this DLC before we really know anything substantial about it.

Well you are right about that. We don't know much about it. But we do know one thing. Space-child will still be there. And that is enough for me to hate it. Well, maybe not hate it. But at least remain very very sceptical that it will actually change anything.
To quote poor old Harbinger that was forgotten in ME3 "This changes nothing"

[Panicomatic]

Maybe they'll take him seriously because obviously they aren't taking us seriously.

[TransientNomad]

xsdob wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I do not agree with joe. I usually do, but he's not showing his usual impartial criticism that he usually shows.

He's basically just jumped on the pessimistic band wagon that I've become sick and tired of. No one can dismiss what the dlc will do, because they don't know jack didly about what the new content actually is. We can't celebrate this as a complete victory yet but at least wait until some actual evidence come out before you crucify them.

We go by what BioWare tells us, and by what they TELL US it will only be an extension and "clarification" of this ending.
You can clarify garbage all you want, it's still just garbage.

Don't tout the "wait and see" spiel. If BioWare intended something truly different where would be the harm in telling us?
No, they've flat out said they consider their "artistic integrity" more important than us, and neither Joe or the rest of us have any reason to sit there and accept it.

You are wrong, I have seen horrible movies turn into great movies with the simple addition of scenes that help to "clarify" what exactly happened. Waterworld comes to mind, nearly all the problems that film had vanaished with the inclusion of the deleted scenes, at least the plot and execution related problems, Kevin Costner is still a big problem.

Sorry, even with the extended scenes, that movie was still horrible.  Costner or no.

[TransientNomad]

xsdob wrote...

TransientNomad wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Holoe4 wrote...

saw it, he speaks for the community... that's one thing I like about him.

He speaks for the lunatic fringe of the community who wants to bury this DLC before we really know anything substantial about it.

We DO know they gave us one of the most non-sensical reviled endings of the decade.  We DO know they blatantly lied to us at least a dozen times on the material of this game. 

And you would presume to say that the "lunatic fringe" is wrong to question or be cynical?  Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  Guess what your doing.

Two years in and your already calling it for worst ending of the decade. You must have some strong pessimistic faith in bioware failing.

Of the last ten years.   2002 to present.  I thought it was obvious.

[Bone3ater]

Well, EA, I think the title of worst company is well deserved. Congratulations! You suck!

You can take your "damage control DLC" and stuff it up your ass.

Modifié par Bone3ater, 07 avril 2012 - 02:02 .

[pistolols]

lmao all i can do is stare at this guy's big gay mustache and laugh i can't even concentrate on his cry baby antics and utterly insane expectations of a video game development company.

[yoshibb]

Maybe Bioware should clarify info on their clarification DLC?

[lunaruaria]

man i hope that this is just a smoke and mirrors tactic to some how buy bioware enough time to actually fix then ending but we will wait and see.

[jspiess]

Can we at least wait until we play it before we pass judgement?