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"I'm sorry, Legion" - Why you should kill the geth at Rannoch (if you picked Destroy)


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OhoniX

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I think that uplifting them gives a lot more import to the decision to potentially destroy them in the end. I definitely do hope that this is one of the things covered by the "clarification" DLC though, that if you chose the "Destroy" ending then they give more scenes of the Geth actually dying, I'd also like them to make it clear how much of a help having the Geth on your side in the Sword battle is.

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Dridengx wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Legion sure gets mad if you don't allow him to upload the reaper code, he even tries to kill you over it. interesting huh? once organics stand in their way, they would even kill their loyal friends.

Well, Wrex ultimately does the same thing if you don't help his race.


The difference is Wrex is fighting to save the extinction of his race. legion is fighting for freedom


Not true! The genophage kept the Krogan at "optimal levels". Sure, they experienced cultural death, because no Krogan saw the point in doing art or furthering science, but the same is basically true for the geth. With no individualization, there is no culture. You can't have a culture of one. It's really almost a perfect parallel.

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Good thing my favorite color is Blue

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I think the clarification DLC is going to restore a lot of the stuff cut out but still in the files. I know there is one of a geth prime discussing working with the quarians in there somewhere.

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Saving both is the best option imo, it helps the quarians even more sinse the geth help them rebuild their homeworld and all that. And Legion is cute how could i have turned on him? It's just... I can't even... "No data available"

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It sucks the Geth have to die in the destroy ending. I always go for peace, but if the geth didn't die and I HAD to choose I'll always save the Geth over the Quarians.

Modifié par LunaticLMD, 07 avril 2012 - 03:52 .


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Bone3ater

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Huh. Good point's OP. Might have to play ME3 again to get that part "right".

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From what evidence do you conclude that the destroy ending is most preferable? I think killing both the Geth and EDI is enough to give most people pause.

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The Divine Avenger

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LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue


lol but blue violates Shepards basic character as does Green see my rant here

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11090932

there is no excuse all 3 endings are broken period we don't need them "clarified" we need them "rectified"

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Mr. Big Pimpin

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tractrpl wrote...

From what evidence do you conclude that the destroy ending is most preferable? I think killing both the Geth and EDI is enough to give most people pause.

That's a different debate for a different thread; suffice it so say that I find all three absolutely awful, but red somewhat less so.

Anyway, the polls show that Destroy is by far the most popular, so this thread thus applies to the majority of people.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 07 avril 2012 - 02:49 .


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Sparatus wrote...

I was more annoyed at Legion's jarring character change

Shepard-Commander, we reject the old machine's gifts. We will make our own future

Mass Effect 3

Shepard-Commander, WE WANT TO USE REAPER CODE! NOW!


More than likely this has a lot to do with the reaper code itself, and Legion being a full AI. When he was exposed to the reaper code, this likely gave him a better understanding on how he could use it to not only help Shepard, but also turn the Geth into a true AI.

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The Divine Avenger

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LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue


lol but Blue go's against Shepards basic character as does Green see my rant here

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11090932/1

The ending is broken period we don't need them "clarified" we need them "rectified"

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Dridengx wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Legion sure gets mad if you don't allow him to upload the reaper code, he even tries to kill you over it. interesting huh? once organics stand in their way, they would even kill their loyal friends.

Well, Wrex ultimately does the same thing if you don't help his race.


The difference is Wrex is fighting to save the extinction of his race. legion is fighting for freedom


Yeah cause, you know, they're not sitting ducks about to die from Quarian fire without the upgrade or anything.
Selective memory much?

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LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue

So you were indoctrinated then? LOL

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The Divine Avenger wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue


lol but blue violates Shepards basic character as does Green see my rant here

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11090932

there is no excuse all 3 endings are broken period we don't need them "clarified" we need them "rectified"


I didn't say I liked the ending. I believe my Shepard made the right choice by choosing the blue magical explosion though, if anything red would of destroyed his character. Genocide just isn't in him, destroying so many Batarian lives was one thing. Whiping out the Geth is a whole 'nother thing.

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Anderson will slap the **** out of you if you don't kill the Reapers. Like, he will literally rise from the dead and beat the **** out of Shepard.

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The Divine Avenger wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue


lol but blue violates Shepards basic character as does Green see my rant here

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11090932

there is no excuse all 3 endings are broken period we don't need them "clarified" we need them "rectified"


Maybe to your Shepard's basic character, but not mine.  I overwrote the geth too.  In all society, we sacrifice some freedom in order for the organization as a whole to function.  Assuming Shepard doesn't become a crazed reaper dictator, him forbidding the reapers from entering the Milky Way seems a reasonable restriction.  

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Blue goes against Shepard's basic character? Shepard for me was almost always paragon, I only went purely renegade to see the whole story. I saved the Rachni, made peace between the Geth and the Quarians, etc. I find it difficult to believe that most people have no issues summarily killing the Geth they worked so hard to make peace with, not to mention killing EDI. Killing EDI is like killing Wrex in ME1, or choosing Udina over Anderson. It's just...unbelievable.

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If it turns out that killing the Reapers somehow doesn't kill EDI and the Geth, then I can understand. Maybe we could say Shepard saw through the deception, I don't know. The ending is very unclear.

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LegendaryBlade

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MrNose wrote...

The Divine Avenger wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Good thing my favorite color is Blue


lol but blue violates Shepards basic character as does Green see my rant here

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11090932

there is no excuse all 3 endings are broken period we don't need them "clarified" we need them "rectified"


Maybe to your Shepard's basic character, but not mine.  I overwrote the geth too.  In all society, we sacrifice some freedom in order for the organization as a whole to function.  Assuming Shepard doesn't become a crazed reaper dictator, him forbidding the reapers from entering the Milky Way seems a reasonable restriction.  


I figure my Shepard probably just had the reapers fix the relays then run themselves in to a sun. The one in Haestrom is sort of ****ed anyway, might as well use it to destroy the entire reaper fleet.

For the record, I blew the base to kill the heretic geth. I knew they would be a problem in the future, and it was nice to find out that even as a Paragon Shep, I had made the right decision come ME3. Whiping out an antagonist army and comitting genocide on an entire species that are currently on your side though? Different things. No, I could never do that. That's a horrible, terrible thing to even consider. Some sacrifices are just too large.

Modifié par LegendaryBlade, 07 avril 2012 - 03:05 .


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or that legion and the geth will die anyways if you pick the red ending, or hell prolly even the blue somehow, something stupid

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Mr. Big Pimpin

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Oh dear, this is becoming a blue vs. red debate; exactly what I didn't want this thread to be.

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why?! why the **** do we have to kill them though?!
it pisses me off to no end that i have to put up with this technophobic rail roading of an ending and they have the balls to call it art!

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The entire Quarian/Geth Conflict defies all that the Starchild says,either way.(Killed or not)
I am talking about the entire 300 year conflict,not solely what happens on Rannoch.

Modifié par Rip504, 07 avril 2012 - 03:05 .