Ziggeh wrote...
Just like, the games themselves. Which is better?
Modifié par jimbo32, 07 avril 2012 - 01:26 .
sfam wrote...
*snip*
http://www.gamezone....ngs-but-closure
"When
asked why that content wasn't included in the game at launch, the dev
team stood by the release in the core product."We're very proud of it,"
they said. "It was important though, for us to listen to the community,
and community feedback obviously didn't come until the game came out.
We couldn't have included it in the game because we didn't know there
was a huge demand for it."
pfellahX wrote...
Yes, that's why they touted those exact things in the pre-launch build-up... because they didn't know people wanted it.
<_<
Cosmar wrote...
This is why they really should have playtested the final game with out-of-office testers before they shipped.
There is a reason authors have their editors read their books before publishing them, because the editor has a fresh perspective and will catch the mistakes and problems the author can't see because they're too close to their work.
Same thing with games, or anything that someone writes/creates for other people to enjoy. The writer/creator is always too close to their own work, too attached to it, to see the problems and flaws that other people unattached to it will catch right off the bat.
Modifié par phototed, 07 avril 2012 - 01:51 .
SuperVulcan wrote...
They messed up, I guess they are not willing to admit it.
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
spiros9110 wrote...
EA
It's not in the game.
Almighty_Hoogs wrote...
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
spiros9110 wrote...
EA
It's not in the game.
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Actually, they did expect it. Why do you think they came out with the lame "It's the journey that's important, not the destination." line. They knew it was crap.Marta Rio II wrote...
My guess? They probably thought: "Well, this ending isn't super great, but games have had bad endings before and people just grumbled a bit. The rest of the games' awesomness will make up for it." They didn't expect a full on fan rage with an organized campaign that got 50,000+ likes on facebook, raised $80k for charity, and led to coverage of the controversy by every major/minor gaming/geek news site for several weeks.
I mean, Casey Hudson thought we'd all love planet scanning (seriously, there's video of him saying this)...so yeah, their predictions for ran reactions seem to be hit or miss.
Their statement at PAX? Just backwards logic trying to spin the situation so they don't look completely incompetent.
I mean his games since maybe dungeon keeper have been a litany of overextension, mismanagement and poorly concieved ideas. He doesn't make games, he makes grand ideas that developement teams fail to articulate.Kilshrek wrote...
Ziggeh wrote...
Just like, the games themselves. Which is better?
How do you mean?
The games do come out buggy, par for the course in open world games. I don't know if they ever fixed that repeatable game breaking bug in Fable 3 though.
Unless you elaborate on what you meant there I really can't say anything either way.
There should be a word for that. For content that is not only bad in itself, but is actually toxic, actively detrimental to the beloved franchise to which it now belongs.Oldbones2 wrote...
Ziggeh,
I'm one of the fans who think the ending ruined the entire trilogy. I even was kinda excited for the film.
A bad game would have been self contained.
This ending is like a virus, infecting everything I loved about Mass Effect. Ruining it forever, and since BW will make more ME games it will keep getting shoved in my face.
Modifié par Ziggeh, 07 avril 2012 - 02:21 .
Modifié par Justin2k, 07 avril 2012 - 02:27 .
Haha, welcome to the BSNJustin2k wrote...
It was one line in part of a much longer speech. Please do not be so quick to jump on it or read into things that aren't there.
Justin2k wrote...
I've noticed this several times, in several different companies from the WWE to Bethesda to Blizzard to even things like Pepsi. It's happened to Bioware several times.
They will make a long annoucement. They will address issues with their product, and in that statement they will say one line that gets picked up on, taken out of context and repeated as if that is all that was said.
Remember when they said that CoD players put points into something and this suggests there is a wider audience out there? It came out in translation on the forums as "Bioware wants CoD crowd at the expense of it's current fanbase".
The truth is they never ever said that. Or even implied it. They just said they still believed they could attract more fans to their games.
Here, what was actually said was that they cut some of the ending content because they didn't realise until after the game released, that the ending would attract so much attention.
Thats what the statement is saying. Nothing more and nothing less. They are not saying they are blind to what is going on now, just that at the time before release there wasn't a huge emphasis on the ending from the fans and that they didn't expect what they did have to fail to resonate with so many people.
It was one line in part of a much longer speech. Please do not be so quick to jump on it or read into things that aren't there. This frequently happens with Jessica Merizan's twitter, whereby anything she says is interpretated into a million different ways and mis-reported on the forums.
People just need to settle and not read too much into it. Bioware are damned if they say anthing, and if they don't say anything people would be upset by that too right now.
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