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Personally, I think it's Canada's fault.

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jreezy wrote...

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:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.


True if you were still viewing Mass Effect as a RPG. Since ME2, I have viewed the ME series as more in the vein of games like Uncharted rather than The Witcher 2 or KOTOR. This is probably why I was extrememly satisified with 99% of Mass Effect as while the C&C (which some people focused on) didn't deliver while I found the emotional story payoff to be great until the end. 

Just my opinion... 

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Atakuma wrote...

Personally, I think it's Canada's fault.

Indeed.

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jreezy wrote...

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:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that

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Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



- Broken import system
- Flawed introduction
- Flawed journal system
- Trivialization of choices in previous games

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It matters not to me whose fault it is.
Forum-ers:"I don't know how you do it."

... Steak, fellow members.
I just think of when there's so much steak.

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jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



- Broken import system
- Flawed introduction
- Flawed journal system
- Trivialization of choices in previous games


the import system imo isnt that big of a deal

same with journal system

trivialization also

story wise is what i meant 

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I just think of when there's so much steak.

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Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that




-Linear corridor shooter

-Only 2 guns are needed for the whole game,  salarian pistol and sniper rifle,  everything else is useless in comparison.

-Phoned in level system that doesn't create a single hard choice,  it's all "Do you want to play offensively or defensively?" and just pick that path.

-Weapon mod system that's as phoned in as the level system.  Mod for damage,  there's no reason to mod for anything else.  Not that there's really any other option but modding for damage in the first place.

-fetch quests.

-Timed fetch quests.  Not only are they timed,  but they're intentionally designed to make you fail (See Barla Vonn and Tchunka) to force you into Multiplayer.

-Forced multiplayer if you want the best ending,  for no reason other than to force Online Pass sales.

-Zooming around the solar systems making white circles,  more representative of 90's era arcade games than anything else.

-The same plot point is used 3 times (Legion,  Mordin,  Thane)

-Overuse of "Stand here and shoot all of the waves until they're finished".  usually with ultra-heroic music when you're not really doing anything all that ultra-heroic.

-The few side-quests that aren't fetch quests are almost all "Kill waves,  move,  push button,  rinse,  repeat".

-Autodialogue everywhere.

-Decisions are ignored,  sometimes outright ignored,  and other times just putting a different character in to do the exact same thing.

-You trip over a thermal clip every 2ft.  The only way you can run out of ammo is if you literally try to run out of ammo.

I can keep going if you want?

Modifié par Gatt9, 07 mai 2012 - 02:05 .


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Pretty much but it was about the same throughout the series but ME2 seemed to do better though much of the same stuff in this list was in ME2.

Modifié par C4L3N, 07 mai 2012 - 04:37 .


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To OP, this is news how? Everyone knows that EA sh*** on studios all the time and could care less about good reputation and/or quality.

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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Even if as much as 90% of this is EA's fault and not BioWare's, their apathy and towing the line does just as much damage.

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No it's Activision fault. Stop this heresy. /thread

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jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



- Broken import system
- Flawed introduction
- Flawed journal system
- Trivialization of choices in previous games


Auto-dialogue, what they did to Jacob.  Did I say Auto-dialogue? 
More bugs than ME1 (MASS EFFECT 1!!!!!!!!!). 

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spiros9110 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



- Broken import system
- Flawed introduction
- Flawed journal system
- Trivialization of choices in previous games


Auto-dialogue, what they did to Jacob.  Did I say Auto-dialogue? 
More bugs than ME1 (MASS EFFECT 1!!!!!!!!!). 

Don't forget about that auto-dialogue.

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To OP, this is news how? Everyone knows that EA sh*** on studios all the time and could care less about good reputation and/or quality.


how does ea have anything to do with what both mac and casey did by greenlighting the ending?


lets be honest if the ending isnt what it was this backlash wouldnt even happen and you know it

2 guys on the bioware team made the call and ran with it

being dissapointed is one thing but conspriacey theories and lies make things alot worse

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By Sithis, are the forums still ablaze?!

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Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

By Sithis, are the forums still ablaze?!



apparently so but not as horrible as it was

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Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



There are 31 side quests. All of them fetch quests.

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The Milky Waver wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



There are 31 side quests. All of them fetch quests.


what were you expecting? land on worlds during a ww2 style reaper invasion?

i admit the fetch missions are kind of a sad waste but what else could they really do ?

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Tazzmission wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



There are 31 side quests. All of them fetch quests.


what were you expecting? land on worlds during a ww2 style reaper invasion?

i admit the fetch missions are kind of a sad waste but what else could they really do ?


A smaller amount of quests similar in length to Grissom Academy. Your choices during these missions would result in a substantial amount of TMS/EMS depending on your choices. 

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EA didn't write that ending.


True:

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I seriously hope the ending was because of time constraints.

This really tickles my testes. 

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Tazzmission wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



There are 31 side quests. All of them fetch quests.


what were you expecting? land on worlds during a ww2 style reaper invasion?

i admit the fetch missions are kind of a sad waste but what else could they really do ?

*See Mass Effect: Assignments*

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Tazzmission wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

To OP, this is news how? Everyone knows that EA sh*** on studios all the time and could care less about good reputation and/or quality.


how does ea have anything to do with what both mac and casey did by greenlighting the ending?


lets be honest if the ending isnt what it was this backlash wouldnt even happen and you know it

2 guys on the bioware team made the call and ran with it

being dissapointed is one thing but conspriacey theories and lies make things alot worse


How do you know that BioWare wasn't forced to put those endings only to leave the universe open? Besides its perfectly convenient, Hudson and Walters put the endings out, everyone gets mad at them, EA gets away with it and Hudson and Walters get the blame. Isn't this what happened? I know people can make mistakes but I doubt that this was a simple mistake, both guys have worked on all three games, there is no way that they couldn't have foreseen that this would have happened. 

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-Skorpious- wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: 99% of the game is great...

Very debatable.



how so? give me one example that isnt ending realted that makes you think that



There are 31 side quests. All of them fetch quests.


what were you expecting? land on worlds during a ww2 style reaper invasion?

i admit the fetch missions are kind of a sad waste but what else could they really do ?


A smaller amount of quests similar in length to Grissom Academy. Your choices during these missions would result in a substantial amount of TMS/EMS depending on your choices. 


now this i can get behind and agree with