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Read this...Its EA's fault not JUST Bioware's


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furryrage59

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I have always found it strange that after the merger and the 'huge amount of resources at their disposal', the games are being more rushed and of a poor quality.

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furryrage59 wrote...

I have always found it strange that after the merger and the 'huge amount of resources at their disposal', the games are being more rushed and of a poor quality.

That's EA for you. Maximizing profit>Quality products

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

To OP, this is news how? Everyone knows that EA sh*** on studios all the time and could care less about good reputation and/or quality.


how does ea have anything to do with what both mac and casey did by greenlighting the ending?


lets be honest if the ending isnt what it was this backlash wouldnt even happen and you know it

2 guys on the bioware team made the call and ran with it

being dissapointed is one thing but conspriacey theories and lies make things alot worse


How do you know that BioWare wasn't forced to put those endings only to leave the universe open? Besides its perfectly convenient, Hudson and Walters put the endings out, everyone gets mad at them, EA gets away with it and Hudson and Walters get the blame. Isn't this what happened? I know people can make mistakes but I doubt that this was a simple mistake, both guys have worked on all three games, there is no way that they couldn't have foreseen that this would have happened. 


Yeah, pretty much this.

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jreezy wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

I have always found it strange that after the merger and the 'huge amount of resources at their disposal', the games are being more rushed and of a poor quality.

That's EA for you. Maximizing profit>Quality products


It won't exactly be maximizing profit when future BioWare titles won't sell. Considering the amount of not only uphappy, former fans there are but the amount of people who have gone from "will buy day 1 'cause it's BioWare" to "do not want!" due to Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 and other factors (Origin, Day 1 DLC, lies, general treatment of the fanbase, etc.) it's not looking good for BioWare's future products.

This is assuming people really are going to stop buying their games and aren't just bluffing to get attention and try and influence BioWare of course. And also assuming that BioWare's new target audience (i.e. casual and mainstream) don't actually jump aboard (though with their half-assed, cake-and-eat-it-too approach to games, they aren't gaining too many of them either).

I used to want BioWare to turn things around, but after all the nonsense and lies surrounding ME3's release and the attitide of some of the higher-ups at the company, quite frankly I want them to crash and burn now. BioWare don't deserve to exist in their current state with their current attitudes... this is pretty clear given what just happened with ME3, what happened with DA2 over a year ago and where the company is taking DA3 (i.e. illustrating their stubborn arrogance and just not learning as they push out yet another story-driven, cinematic console action game and try to claim it's an RPG).

At this point, it just seems BioWare are irredeemable. They don't want to correct their mistakes, they just want to plunge on in towards their future of mass pandering, genericism and stagnation.

Modifié par Terror_K, 07 mai 2012 - 08:48 .


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Those poor deluded Bioware guys... they really thought that EA would let them retain their independence in terms of creative control...

Ray Muzyka: "Well, to be blunt, I don't really see ourselves as not being independent anymore."

John Riccitiello: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."

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You say that as if it weren't already blatantly obvious. EA is a leech that kills any company it manages to get it's slimy hands on, no wonder it was voted worst company in America.

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EA is on my list already, they didn't have to do themselves any favors. But I thought better of Bioware before I came across the ending of Mass Effect 3. So I am no longer going to just buy up all Bioware puts out like I have done before, I am going to wait and watch it then maybe find it used somewhere when its cheaper.

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Zambayoshi wrote...

Those poor deluded Bioware guys... they really thought that EA would let them retain their independence in terms of creative control...

Ray Muzyka: "Well, to be blunt, I don't really see ourselves as not being independent anymore."

John Riccitiello: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."


"WE ARE YOUR SALVATION THROUGH DESTRUCTION."
"THIS HURTS YOU."

Yes, yes it does, EA.

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Note how Mass effect 2 had 3-4 years in development and ME3 had 1. I have a feeling that even the extension from November to March was one reluctantly given.

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Note how Mass effect 2 had 3-4 years in development and ME3 had 1. I have a feeling that even the extension from November to March was one reluctantly given.

Since we're obviously going by the previous game's release date when calculating time in development...Mass Effect 3 had two years of development, not one.

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furryrage59 wrote...

I have always found it strange that after the merger and the 'huge amount of resources at their disposal', the games are being more rushed and of a poor quality.


Yeah I remember being sucked in during the acquistion by all the speak about how they're retaining the best parts of BioWare and how it won't affect them and how they'll just have more resources etc available.

Even got into some heated arguments defending EA and the acquisition on these forums when they were first opened up.

Now I feel like a fool with a truck load of egg on my face.

EA has come out and said BioWare is just going to be one of their labels, not one of their premier game producters, but just one of their labels to slap on and milk the good name of BioWare which has already had a thrashing the last couple of years.

Dark days for gaming ahead.

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KevShep wrote...

http://www.gamespot....-buyout-6180866

Its EA's fault why ME3 is as bad as it is.


EA... The purchaser in question is the world's biggest third-party publisher, and has been rightly or wrongly perceived as preferring to hit corporate deadlines over supporting creative vision.


(I hate quoting the OP)

This is what I've been saying for almost 2 months. Can't understand how people can't understand this. EA are sh*t and destroys game studios because they'd rather have a little money now than a lot of money later.

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In the bottom of the ME3 website is clearly stated in a very visable way:
Bioware
© 2012 EA International(Studio and Publishing) Ltd. All Rights Reserved.

Bioware is now a division of EA, there isn't anymore an isolated entity called "Bioware", they belong to EA now.
Is like iD Software, there isn't anymore an "Id Software Company", they belong to Zenimax now.

So yes, if you want to blame someone blame EA, Bioware is no more since 2007.

And if EA tell Bioware to do a The Sims - Mass Effect game they have no choice in the matter, they have to do it!

Modifié par brfritos, 09 mai 2012 - 06:01 .