Okay, yes everyone should shoot at the banshees and brutes that are swarming at us and disregard whoever gets the kill, but do you really need to shoot the lone marauder or even phantom or something with your widow from across the map, when it has less than a full health box left and im shooting at it? Is that really necessary?
"kill stealing"?
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#77
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:15
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Yes. Your tears, they're delicious.OGWS wrote...
Okay, yes everyone should shoot at the banshees and brutes that are swarming at us and disregard whoever gets the kill, but do you really need to shoot the lone marauder or even phantom or something with your widow from across the map, when it has less than a full health box left and im shooting at it? Is that really necessary?
#78
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:16
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I wasn't crying?Influ wrote...
Yes. Your tears, they're delicious.OGWS wrote...
Okay, yes everyone should shoot at the banshees and brutes that are swarming at us and disregard whoever gets the kill, but do you really need to shoot the lone marauder or even phantom or something with your widow from across the map, when it has less than a full health box left and im shooting at it? Is that really necessary?
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:19
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And I wasn't even remotely serious. Though if someone really cares about "kill stealing" I will enjoy feeding on their misery. And then never play with them again, because they have a completely wrong mindset for a team based game.OGWS wrote...
I wasn't crying?
#80
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:22
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Like I said, its only annoying on the "being a douche on purpose" kills. Otherwise, dont stop shooting
#81
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:28
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Here's my question.
How the heck am I supposed to know in that split second that I round the corner that you've got that Banshee under control?
Yeah, it may be low on health, but you might be out of bullets, you might be on a power cool down and that Banshee may be one little *bamf* away from skewering you.
Do I stop, wait for you to die and then fire?
Seriously?
I don't 'kill steal' on purpose. I shoot what's in front of me.
Now as a sniper, the vanguards and biotics really ****** me off. Nothing I hate more than lining up a shot only to have a vanguard teleport on top of it or have a biotic run up next to me and fire off a power that literally knocks my gun off target.
But that's the game. I'm not going to yell at someone for killing the bad guys. I might not stick around for another round with you, but I'm sure not going to tell you 'no, don't shoot at the geth that pop up in my sights.'
I see it. I try to kill it. Considering that as a sniper, I don't have the luxury to spend a lot of time moving around to find new things to shoot at, I'm not about to *not* shoot at something in my line of sight because you're hitting it.
Sorry.
How the heck am I supposed to know in that split second that I round the corner that you've got that Banshee under control?
Yeah, it may be low on health, but you might be out of bullets, you might be on a power cool down and that Banshee may be one little *bamf* away from skewering you.
Do I stop, wait for you to die and then fire?
Seriously?
I don't 'kill steal' on purpose. I shoot what's in front of me.
Now as a sniper, the vanguards and biotics really ****** me off. Nothing I hate more than lining up a shot only to have a vanguard teleport on top of it or have a biotic run up next to me and fire off a power that literally knocks my gun off target.
But that's the game. I'm not going to yell at someone for killing the bad guys. I might not stick around for another round with you, but I'm sure not going to tell you 'no, don't shoot at the geth that pop up in my sights.'
I see it. I try to kill it. Considering that as a sniper, I don't have the luxury to spend a lot of time moving around to find new things to shoot at, I'm not about to *not* shoot at something in my line of sight because you're hitting it.
Sorry.
#82
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:29
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Yana Montana wrote...
Teamwork is a key in MP, especially on Silver and even more on Gold. In order to succeed you need people you can rely on in your team - your friends or smart people with a simple device called microphone to coordinate attacks.
I love playing Adept (Drell) + Adept (Asari)/Sentinel (Human/Turian) + Vanguard + Infiltrator/Engineer. It's pure biotic explosions galore as all 3 work together, setting up and finishing combos (Banshee and alike die in mere seconds without a chance to deal any sort damage to any player even on Gold). Whilst Infiltartor/Engineer concentrates on objectives and reviving/covering biotic arses from afar.
It's fun, it's effective and it does not make you all grumpy when peeps start bragging about who "got more XP" and how you "suck, because you kill less than everyone else".
Know that, random player with ego size of Manhattan, if not for biotic Stasis on Gold which prevents a handful of Phantoms to get close to your Geth Infiltrator with Black Widow which you then successfully headshoot, you will be dead in no-time. I don't care about the kills, I care about my team getting through without falling down even once and get as much team bonuces as possible.
Sometimes I love you.
#83
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:35
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several people have mentioned annoyance at teammates joining in when the boss is nearly dead.
one totally legitimate reason for that is that they might have been cleaning up the mooks while you were shooting the boss. this is especially important with banshees.
while you were running around, kiting the banshee- thank you, by the way- i was killing the ravagers that would have been pounding you with rockets. then i was killing the brute who wanted to chase you too. then i killed the marauders and cannibals and the husks that would have stun-locked you in the banshee's path. by the time everything was cleaned up, you had taken the banshee down to 10% armor. good job and thank you again. the banshee was then my primary target, so i shot it.
there are certainly ways that people are inconsiderate while playing, but i think that trying to make someone else not register kills is not really (or almost never) one of them. and even for that rare person- who cares? you still get payed at the end.
worrying about this is like playing soccer and not passing forward, because your teammate would "goal steal" your shot.
one totally legitimate reason for that is that they might have been cleaning up the mooks while you were shooting the boss. this is especially important with banshees.
while you were running around, kiting the banshee- thank you, by the way- i was killing the ravagers that would have been pounding you with rockets. then i was killing the brute who wanted to chase you too. then i killed the marauders and cannibals and the husks that would have stun-locked you in the banshee's path. by the time everything was cleaned up, you had taken the banshee down to 10% armor. good job and thank you again. the banshee was then my primary target, so i shot it.
there are certainly ways that people are inconsiderate while playing, but i think that trying to make someone else not register kills is not really (or almost never) one of them. and even for that rare person- who cares? you still get payed at the end.
worrying about this is like playing soccer and not passing forward, because your teammate would "goal steal" your shot.
#84
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:46
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SGhost wrote...
Here's my question.
How the heck am I supposed to know in that split second that I round the corner that you've got that Banshee under control?
Yeah, it may be low on health, but you might be out of bullets, you might be on a power cool down and that Banshee may be one little *bamf* away from skewering you.
Do I stop, wait for you to die and then fire?
Seriously?
How? Communication. Which is, I think, what's really the problem here. If they haven't said anything, then you go in blazing and kill, they have no excuse, and no reason to hate you. Don't be sorry, don't let it faze you.
In my games, I have the most fun playing my support classes the most, because all the people I seem to meet don't communicate. If I go in with a vangaurd I'll use my abilities to support him. Same if I see an asari in the group. I'll help with combos, sit/rep, and covering fire.
When I go out as those DD classes, I don't get that same team work, even when they have mics. Only with a rare few, or with my group. Maybe this is just my experience, since I only play PUG's in silver, not gold. I really think it's just a lack of coordination and communication, in a game that's built for it.
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 04:55
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I usually play a turian sentinel tank with Avenger X which allows me to spam overload forever, so I can stroll around the map making things easier for others. I can say that when I have overloaded an enemy someone else was shooting at and that enemy has died, I've felt bad. I only wanted to stun, instead I've robbed my teammate of the satisfaction. Particularly if they wanted to melee the target (or even worse, to grab it) and they die from overload instead, that's really not good.
This doesn't apply to life/death situations like hacking on wave 10 where we're in serious danger and we all must do our best to kill as many as quickly as possible. Steal or die, I pick steal. Otherwise, I try to remember that a great deal of the fun of this game comes from killing people, and there are 3 more people playing there.
This doesn't apply to life/death situations like hacking on wave 10 where we're in serious danger and we all must do our best to kill as many as quickly as possible. Steal or die, I pick steal. Otherwise, I try to remember that a great deal of the fun of this game comes from killing people, and there are 3 more people playing there.
#86
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:06
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Said this is Halo and I'll say it again, it's only kill stealing in Free For All, it's teamwork. While it is annoying when you're solo'ing something and then someone comes over to finish your work, it's not kill stealing and it's just your ego going "hey I didn't need help on that". If you don't want you kills "stolen" play by yourself.
#87
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:10
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Here's my take: if I'm about to finish off a guy and someone else quickly shoots him, I'm fine with that.
However, when there's that d-bag who'll use biotic charge into a huge group of enemies and block my gunfire and proceed to kill everything. At that point, I have nothing to kill and it's boring. That's annoying as hell.
However, when there's that d-bag who'll use biotic charge into a huge group of enemies and block my gunfire and proceed to kill everything. At that point, I have nothing to kill and it's boring. That's annoying as hell.
#88
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:12
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My friends and I joke about it (taking the kill when they're about to heavy melee or something), but typically I don't care.
#89
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:12
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i don't mind people stealing my kills
but when i do 90% of the damn enemie's health and im gonna give the final shot only to have the kill stolen from me and me getting an assist that only gives me 200 is kind of annoying
but when i do 90% of the damn enemie's health and im gonna give the final shot only to have the kill stolen from me and me getting an assist that only gives me 200 is kind of annoying
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Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:15
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ADLegend21 wrote...
Said this is Halo and I'll say it again, it's only kill stealing in Free For All, it's teamwork. While it is annoying when you're solo'ing something and then someone comes over to finish your work, it's not kill stealing and it's just your ego going "hey I didn't need help on that". If you don't want you kills "stolen" play by yourself.
Oh yeah? Well, Jacob sucks.
#91
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:26
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I do not care about who kills what and when. Everyone gets the same xp/credits in the end.
But I do find it very annoying when trying to set up biotic combos alone. The blue glowing enemy always gets picked off first...
But I do find it very annoying when trying to set up biotic combos alone. The blue glowing enemy always gets picked off first...
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#92
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 05:56
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i dont want to hear that cooperative game crap
if I warp someone....and you clearly see he is glowing blue (or stasis and see him standing stil) that does not mean that you can snipe him...
i hate it when my throw is about to reach its target to set off a biotic explosion (probably going to kill two more enemies) but nooooooo, you had to snipe him so now throw hit no one...and we have to take a few more seconds to finish the wave *sigh*
if I warp someone....and you clearly see he is glowing blue (or stasis and see him standing stil) that does not mean that you can snipe him...
i hate it when my throw is about to reach its target to set off a biotic explosion (probably going to kill two more enemies) but nooooooo, you had to snipe him so now throw hit no one...and we have to take a few more seconds to finish the wave *sigh*
#93
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 06:02
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marshalleck wrote...
My batarian sentinel has been keeping his lane locked down tight, nothing's getting through. I catch a marauder in my net, run out to falcon punch it. Wind up, and...infiltrator headshots it from 20 yards behind.
That's kind of an **** move, to be honest.
But it's cool. That infiltrator becomes my new best friend since he went out of his way to protect me from the marauder. So I repay the favor by following him around spamming shockwave at anything and everything in sight. Even if it's out of range.
Well played!
As a general rule, killing other peoples' targets is a kill secured, but if you know somebody's up to something, like setting up a Power Combo, or wants their Martial Artist/Weapon Synergy buff in the Batarian's case, then bloody well let them do it!
PROTIP: A marauder in a net with a dubstep fist aimed at its head is no threat to the team. Do not waste ammo on it.
#94
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 06:04
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Two days ago I was in a random silver game: three other guys with sniper, and me AA with stasis bubble.
1) I proceed to stasi anything that moves
2) each of the other pop heads from across the maps
3) any minions dead in seconds....
I did not care for the kill, was totally amusing that even without mic (I have, the other did not) after about half wave one we find a mopping strategy that totally works...
Why not?
Only time I got annoyed was to a DBag that was yelling in the mike how good and powerful he was... bronze with some max out 20lvl char and a X rate weapon... Sure, you where amazing!!!!! (not)
1) I proceed to stasi anything that moves
2) each of the other pop heads from across the maps
3) any minions dead in seconds....
I did not care for the kill, was totally amusing that even without mic (I have, the other did not) after about half wave one we find a mopping strategy that totally works...
Why not?
Only time I got annoyed was to a DBag that was yelling in the mike how good and powerful he was... bronze with some max out 20lvl char and a X rate weapon... Sure, you where amazing!!!!! (not)
#95
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 06:05
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I don't see the point in people getting angry with kill steals. You still get exp and if you do the most damage to that particular enemy you will get the majority of those points.
#96
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 07:11
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When I am playing as an asari adept I want my sniper teammates to kill steal phantoms esp when they are caught in stasis bubble and are at a medium-longer range where headshotting them with a pishtol isn't easy. Works well every time and it feels good to finish Gold Cerberus in less than 23 minutes without spending lots of rockets/med gels/ops spec packs...
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#97
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 07:12
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Since it is shared XP, kill stealing doesn't matter.
#98
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 07:57
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When I play a AA, I prefer people shoot my stasis bubble enemies. That leaves me more time to W&T shielded/armored targets. I have been amazed that people just pass that bubble by not wanting to....."kill steal?" For the love of Shepard.......shoot the damn thing.
#99
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:08
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I usually don't mind when people kill whatever I'm aiming for except when I'm in the middle of a heavy melee, and they kill them first; this happens a lot with batarian classes. I'm putting myself in danger by standing out in the open, so I at least deserve to add a kill towards my X Kills and X Melee kills badge counts. I don't really mind if someone kills my target when I've just started my attack because it's very easy to miss that when you pull the trigger, but when I'm clearly in the middle of attacking, you've had enough time to disengage.
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#100
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 08:12
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Also the game uses a certain auto aim when quick scoping.
I noticed many times I look at the the full health enemy on the left, but then when I zoom into him I go to the enemy with only one health bar on the right.
When I shoot I then realise I didnt kill my intentional target but the target my sniper rifle decided to zoom into. But when you quick scope you dont think about the health, and focus on the headshot, so unintensionaly "killstealing".
I noticed many times I look at the the full health enemy on the left, but then when I zoom into him I go to the enemy with only one health bar on the right.
When I shoot I then realise I didnt kill my intentional target but the target my sniper rifle decided to zoom into. But when you quick scope you dont think about the health, and focus on the headshot, so unintensionaly "killstealing".
