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[sydsyrious]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

I usually don't mind when people kill whatever I'm aiming for except when I'm in the middle of a heavy melee, and they kill them first; this happens a lot with batarian classes. I'm putting myself in danger by standing out in the open, so I at least deserve to add a kill towards my X Kills and X Melee kills badge counts. I don't really mind if someone kills my target when I've just started my attack because it's very easy to miss that when you pull the trigger, but when I'm clearly in the middle of attacking, you've had enough time to disengage.

You are assuming people are paying attention to you.  Maybe someone thought they were helping you and did not understand the implications of you missing out on a Melee Kill Badge.  If I am attempting to melee anything, I am hoping someone will come along and kill it before I lose that melee battle.  I am in it for the credits and trying desperately not to die so someone might attempt to revive me.

[InstaShark]

Surprised nobody's said this yet.






It's not kill stealing, it's kill helping.

[Scam_poo]

It's just a bit silly if I bring down a banshee to one bar armor, then some Vanguard comes charging it and I get +225 assist for that. WTF?? I should get 1000+! That system is either buggy or just plain unfair. I mean, it takes zero skill to use Biotic Charge... though other (skilled) people may steal kills, too.

[afmn]

i will shoot at anything through my scope. ( except warped of sabatoged target)

rage all you want...

[capn233]

There's no such thing as kill stealing.

Use a better weapon next time. Or be lame and use a **** rapid fire weapon and shoot every target last if that will make you feel better.

[paincanbefun]

InstaShark wrote...

Surprised nobody's said this yet.






It's not kill stealing, it's kill helping.

oh, that's been said.  but it's no less true for repitition.

[SGhost]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

I usually don't mind when people kill whatever I'm aiming for except when I'm in the middle of a heavy melee, and they kill them first; this happens a lot with batarian classes. I'm putting myself in danger by standing out in the open, so I at least deserve to add a kill towards my X Kills and X Melee kills badge counts. I don't really mind if someone kills my target when I've just started my attack because it's very easy to miss that when you pull the trigger, but when I'm clearly in the middle of attacking, you've had enough time to disengage.

Yet how many times are you charging into melee that a sniper is picking off? 

I've lost track of the number of howling krogans that have charged in front of me to get the kills.  So a lot of times, they're stealing my kills.  There I am, lining up my X number of head shot kills and BAM, you melee types charge in and steal my kill...

In other words, no, you don't 'deserve' to add a kill just because you opt to melee any more than I 'deserve' to add a kill because I choose to snipe.  Meleers especially love to charge into a knot of targets and we're supposed to what, sit back and let you have them all?

Ain't happenin'.

If I see it, I shoot it.  You don't like it, go find some place else on the map where the sniper isn't lined up to fire.

[paincanbefun]

Scam_poo wrote...

It's just a bit silly if I bring down a banshee to one bar armor, then some Vanguard comes charging it and I get +225 assist for that. WTF?? I should get 1000+! That system is either buggy or just plain unfair. I mean, it takes zero skill to use Biotic Charge... though other (skilled) people may steal kills, too.

if the vanguard had charged any earlier, he would have been a banshee-pwned idiot.  (or, potentially highly nimble and skilled, but the dead idiot is more likely).  if he was doing his job, he was cleaning up the marauders who were shooting at you, while you were whittling the banshee down.  or if there were no marauders, he was shooting at it.  when the charge will kill it, it becomes safe to charge.  that's why that happens.  that's him helping you with his highest damage ability when it won't get him killed to do so.

when i'm kiting a banshee, i'm barely paying any attention to what other players are doing, so i only notice something dramatic like a vanguard charging it.  that doesn't mean they were goofing off the whole time though.

[NeoNatica]

I can say what I find annoying about kill stealing really comes down to me in the middle of a heavy melee that I did on purpose to kill this unit, and someone come by and killing it instead. I have been using the Batarian classes lately, so it is a slow melee, but it's a guaranteed kill. So for whatever reason someone would shoot the guy I'm about to kill makes no sense to me.

[NOO3TASTIC]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

I usually don't mind when people kill whatever I'm aiming for except when I'm in the middle of a heavy melee, and they kill them first; this happens a lot with batarian classes. I'm putting myself in danger by standing out in the open, so I at least deserve to add a kill towards my X Kills and X Melee kills badge counts. I don't really mind if someone kills my target when I've just started my attack because it's very easy to miss that when you pull the trigger, but when I'm clearly in the middle of attacking, you've had enough time to disengage.

I don't usually support the idea of "stealing" kills but in most (not all) krogans and batarians I do want to still their every melee kill when all they are doing is trying to be a macho man on gold and getting themselves BBQ by bunch of pyros/getting filetted by phantoms on the other corner of the map far away from their teammates.

Only impression most players get from that stupidity is that they don't teach these bad ass looking characters how to use guns on Tuchanka and Hegemony. FFS please stay with the team use your weapons, cover  a flank or two and if some units do manage to flank by all means falcon punch, headbutt them or draw aggro. We will happily revive you a thousand times per game if you do that. We don't care about the scores or badges. All that matters is that we happily walk away with 70-75k credits after a game.
 

Modifié par NOO3TASTIC, 24 avril 2012 - 09:53 .

[Tup3x]

I don't really even think about it. I'll just do as much damage as I can. It doesn't matter to me who takes the kills, as long as enemies go down I'm cool with it.

[Krantzstone]

Stenun wrote...

The problem with "kill stealing" starts when people also compare your XP scores to "see who is pulling their weight" and kick those who are perceived to be a drag. If all your kills are stolen, of course your score is going to be lower.

The problem is that most of the people who see no harm in "kill stealing" are the same people who will kick you if your score doesn't fit within a specific band of what they have arbitrarily decided is acceptable.

Yeah, I hate when they do that.  I don't claim to be great at playing, but I hate being kicked from a Gold team even after I went all out to crowd control and set up shots for them, _and_ used up all my consumables keeping the team alive or rocketing a mob of enemies that had the team surrounded.  It makes me feel like I wasted all those credits buying the Jumbo pack that I used to try and keep the team alive, especially if they're going to judge me unfit for their team.

I figure the only time clutching a wave is acceptable is if rescuing a teammate would be suicidal and/or futile.  What I hate seeing is people who clearly didn't bother to use up a health pack to go and revive someone who'd run out of theirs, and then think they'll try and complete the objectives/finish the wave solo.  It's even worse when they do that and they fail anyway, because if they'd used those health packs to keep the team alive instead of hoarding their consumables for themselves, the mission might not have failed. ;(

[kumquats]

Co-Op, there is no kill stealing. Of course I try to go all out with every class, the only thing that is annoying for me, is that 3 people all look in the same direction and I have to protect the flank most of the time alone.
That's annoying as hell.

Protect your flank people!

[Cundu_Ertur]

im in ur pantry shadow stealin ur killz

Modifié par Cundu_Ertur, 24 mai 2012 - 07:11 .

[N7 Banshee Bait]

You ever have a sniper follow you around like a shadow? You do 90% of the damage to an enemy & right as you're about to make the kill you hear a Widow or Mantis go off right behind you. Then you move to the next enemy & the same thing happens, and the next, and the next.

yeah, you could say kill stealing pisses me off. Almost as much as snipers.

[Ares Caesar]

Steelgrave wrote...

You ever have a sniper follow you around like a shadow? You do 90% of the damage to an enemy & right as you're about to make the kill you hear a Widow or Mantis go off right behind you. Then you move to the next enemy & the same thing happens, and the next, and the next.

yeah, you could say kill stealing pisses me off. Almost as much as snipers.

The best is when its a lowly husk, cannibal, or assault trooper... something that makes a cloaked widow shot totally overkill.  Even better is the dudes that will actually make sure to time the last shot on an Atlas or Prime that you've mostly dropped down just so they can get the kill.

Honestly, when it comes to Silver or Gold the only time I mind if people "kill steal" is when trying to set off biotic combos and there were other targets they could've chosen instead, beyond that so long as I get my credits at the end I dont really care... I want the money, thats what I want.

[Pantyhose Nylonlady]

If i see some guy wants to play Rambo and takes all the kills i give him such opportunity. And when he gets his ass shot i just dont revive him to teach him a lesson to play coop.

[Fade9wayz]

paincanbefun wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...

It's just a bit silly if I bring down a banshee to one bar armor, then some Vanguard comes charging it and I get +225 assist for that. WTF?? I should get 1000+! That system is either buggy or just plain unfair. I mean, it takes zero skill to use Biotic Charge... though other (skilled) people may steal kills, too.

if the vanguard had charged any earlier, he would have been a banshee-pwned idiot.  (or, potentially highly nimble and skilled, but the dead idiot is more likely).  if he was doing his job, he was cleaning up the marauders who were shooting at you, while you were whittling the banshee down.  or if there were no marauders, he was shooting at it.  when the charge will kill it, it becomes safe to charge.  that's why that happens.  that's him helping you with his highest damage ability when it won't get him killed to do so.

when i'm kiting a banshee, i'm barely paying any attention to what other players are doing, so i only notice something dramatic like a vanguard charging it.  that doesn't mean they were goofing off the whole time though.

This, I only charge a banshee when I deem it safe to do so (end of its life or triggering BE), or when she's grabbed a team mate and I try staggering her so she'll hopefully drop him/her. You'd be amazed how often I've had to do that lately... Otherwise I'm effectively cleaning out the lesser mobs (especially the ever friendly ravagers) around so that the others can concentrate on the glowy nipples all their content.

[Panther_73]

As allready said so many times b4, I don't care who has the killshot, I just go for a full extraction and try to help out, if I can.

Modifié par Panther_73, 24 mai 2012 - 07:55 .

[Canavar404]

I kill all that moves and I change targets, only when I need to support reviving or mission followers. I loose too many time for thinking about enemy labels like "must die from ... ". I realy like, when two AA & AJ are working together - great fun for me and mostly the best teamwork IMO

[TLK Spires]

it's just whiny little bastards playing the wrong game, nothing more. co-op =/= pvp.

[BouncyFrag]

Killing combos can be annoying. Most of the time, its no big deal, but some situations do make a 'bad teammate' for mindlessly killing anything that moves. For example, you are trapped in cover and you are staring down a turret, a phantom, and an engineer clumped together. I warp the engineer and am in the middle of a throw to detonate, but no, the engineer gets headshoted and a much needed BE to take out the turret and at the very least soften up/stagger that phantom won't be happening.

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 24 mai 2012 - 09:14 .

[Prawny]

The only time it annoys me is for example:

I have a Shuriken, teammate has a Widow. There is a group of enemies in front of us - a few troopers, a Phantom and an Atlas.
I'm shooting/reaving the troopers and Phantom, as SMG's are designed for shields, not armour. My teammate however, is also picking off the troopers that have a few slivers of health left, completely overkilling them with the Widow, while the Atlas marches towards us, unharmed >.>

[Ehunkel]

Did we finish the game? Have we survived until extraction? If yes to both, screw kill stealing

[PensCeltsFan]

Im usually fine with it, but sometimes i get annoyed. Had a game today playing AA with another AA. They would follow me around warping or stasis(ing?) anything i warped. At first i thought "ok they dont have throw and their just trying to help", but then i saw them using throw. They wanted me to detonate their BE's instead on detonating ones i already set up. This is what i would call "kill Stealing"
A blatent attempt to top the scoreboard instead on helping the team.