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#26
AllThatJazz

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yahtzo wrote...

Where was squad reunion specifically denied?


I'd also like an answer to this. 

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Vexia2070 wrote...

Snout wrote...

Hypocrisy troll is trolling.


you would certainly know about that.


Indeed, I stick to posting about things i know, unlike your good self.

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use the brain, use it, they already partially answered about squadmate thing, by reading other stuff, you can see the answer yourselves.

If you're waiting a direct answer, you wont get it. It's agaisnt 'advertisements and seller facts'

They wont say the direct answer because they need to sell the game, especially people who gave their games back. Why do you think it's free ?

LOL

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There is still quite an ammount of conjecture on what youre saying OP...... its like a talk about speculations right now >_>

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revo76 wrote...

use the brain, use it, they already partially answered about squadmate thing, by reading other stuff, you can see the answer yourselves.


No they didn't. In fact, the closest thing to an answer to the squad thing was Jessica Merizan, who stated that we could reunite.

Don't read between lines that don't exist.

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pharsti wrote...

There is still quite an ammount of conjecture on what youre saying OP...... its like a talk about speculations right now >_>


And you're correct, because they're stalling the the retake movement. 

It's not hard to see or understand that there's a difference between what they said before PAX and what they said at PAX. 

If there are people who wants to trust the company who advertised 'Take Earth Back' but with one London mission, or your choices mattered but with 3 rainbow colors, be my guest.

I'm looking answers of them, merging to one and everything is clear. A little knowledge about FTL system in ME franchise, and understanding words they used helps to get 'our' clarify on 'Epilogue DLC' 

stuffingam ,

And how's that possible, care to explain please ? 

-I already said in my previous message.

FTL take months or years to unite Normandy crew. 
Starvation for Tali and Garrus is possible

But of course you can connect them with more plotholes, such as they landed old Quarian or Turian world, and Alliance magically found a way to improve FTL speeds. 

Almost forget, they teleported to Normandy. 

The ending we'll have is the cutted scened of ME3. Joker's 'vengeance announce' for Cortez, Anderson's speech, Garrus and Liara die in beam run, etc. etc.

Modifié par revo76, 07 avril 2012 - 10:26 .


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revo76 wrote...

pharsti wrote...

There is still quite an ammount of conjecture on what youre saying OP...... its like a talk about speculations right now >_>


And you're correct, because they're stalling the the retake movement. 

It's not hard to see or understand that there's a difference between what they said before PAX and what they said at PAX. 

If there are people who wants to trust the company who advertised 'Take Earth Back' but with one London mission, or your choices mattered but with 3 rainbow colors, be my guest.

I'm looking answers of them, merging to one and everything is clear. A little knowledge about FTL system in ME franchise, and understanding words they used helps to get 'our' clarify on 'Epilogue DLC' 

stuffingam ,

And how's that possible, care to explain please ? 

-I already said in my previous message.

FTL take months or years to unite Normandy crew. 
Starvation for Tali and Garrus is possible

But of course you can connect them with more plotholes, such as they landed old Quarian or Turian world, and Alliance magically found a way to improve FTL speeds. 

Almost forget, they teleported to Normandy. 

The ending we'll have is the cutted scened of ME3. Joker's 'vengeance announce' for Cortez, Anderson's speech, Garrus and Liara die in beam run, etc. etc.







Again, all youre doing is interpreting what you read as you want, and calling it fact, its not, its just wild conjecture.
And thats fine, after all, the information is so scarce, everyone is bound to reach their own conclusions, for example, mine diverge from yours quite a lot, the difference here is im not putting what i think down as a fact, and you are.

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revo76 wrote...
Before PAX, Ms. Merizan's Response over Twitter:

Question: 0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive. 

Response: yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible :) 

In PAX:

Denied. There's no squad unite, only missing cutscenes with Anderson and your smates who were dying during Beam Run.

Official:

"Will Extended Cut provide new endings?" no no new endings, but closure

Checked the transcript. No, it has not been denied that there might be a reunion. Nothing about this has been said at all on the panel or in any official accouncement. And since a reunion can easily be done with cinematics alone, I wouldn't rule it out. If there will be a reunion, It will be restricted to the end ending, and it might be no more than a hint that it's possible rather than actually shown. But it seems possible there will be one.

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Mate, seriously, you are making lots of assumptions in your OP. Just edit that to original quotes or some people are going to flip. No reason for that.

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After reading this thread i smell upcoming crap in the air ... So i from that they probably salvage old cinematics from developer´s bench and give US CLOSURE which means fanbase will be pissed off

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revo76 wrote...
Shepard dies in 2 color endings, in 1 he's alive (whereabouts are unknown, since BW said Citadel wasn't destroyed completely)

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?)

Since Shepard himself is not aboard the Normandy (destroy ending), re-unite is not possible. 

2- Unless:

a) We have Reaper FTL device (space magic !)
B) Developed new FTL (space magic !)
c) Garrus-Tali find something to eat until extraction (plot hole - space magic !)


WTF are you smoking, there are many other ships with FTL avaliable, there is no need to "space magic". Destroy ending does not destroy all FTL technology...

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tobito113 wrote...

revo76 wrote...
Shepard dies in 2 color endings, in 1 he's alive (whereabouts are unknown, since BW said Citadel wasn't destroyed completely)

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?)

Since Shepard himself is not aboard the Normandy (destroy ending), re-unite is not possible. 

2- Unless:

a) We have Reaper FTL device (space magic !)
B) Developed new FTL (space magic !)
c) Garrus-Tali find something to eat until extraction (plot hole - space magic !)


WTF are you smoking, there are many other ships with FTL avaliable, there is no need to "space magic". Destroy ending does not destroy all FTL technology...


In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

you need glasses mate ?

Modifié par revo76, 07 avril 2012 - 11:23 .


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revo76 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

revo76 wrote...
Shepard dies in 2 color endings, in 1 he's alive (whereabouts are unknown, since BW said Citadel wasn't destroyed completely)

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?)

Since Shepard himself is not aboard the Normandy (destroy ending), re-unite is not possible. 

2- Unless:

a) We have Reaper FTL device (space magic !)
B) Developed new FTL (space magic !)
c) Garrus-Tali find something to eat until extraction (plot hole - space magic !)


WTF are you smoking, there are many other ships with FTL avaliable, there is no need to "space magic". Destroy ending does not destroy all FTL technology...


In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

you need glasses mate ?



You are right. There is logic behind this. Still, you present your own interpretation of speculations based on what Bioware said. And you present that as facts and direct quotes from Bioware. Mark all this appropriately or else you are doing it wrong.

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revo76 wrote...
In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

In this case, with FTL tech, rescuing crew will take time (months, years ?) 

you need glasses mate ?


Therefore, there is no need to think that Shep cant be reunited to with the crew. Your argument is that they "denied" the claim that shep might find the squadmates one day. That was not denied at all, and they dont even need "space magic" to make it happen...

And dont forget this is Bioware's story, they can even ignore the Garrus/Tali not being able to eat thing and just claim omnitools can convert types of food for extreme situations (or claim that they can harvest the supplies left on he ship on their own)

Modifié par tobito113, 07 avril 2012 - 11:36 .


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Aweus wrote...


You are right. There is logic behind this. Still, you present your own interpretation of speculations based on what Bioware said. And you present that as facts and direct quotes from Bioware. Mark all this appropriately or else you are doing it wrong.


everything i put the first post is direct quotes from BW. No personal stuff is there (except the entry)

These are twitter responses,i also put a link from kotaku already....




Sure, one day they'll be re-united, with current FTL tech this will be 5 or 6 years. If Garrus or Tali wont die from starvation. 

Good point. 

Modifié par revo76, 07 avril 2012 - 11:35 .


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revo76 wrote...

Aweus wrote...


You are right. There is logic behind this. Still, you present your own interpretation of speculations based on what Bioware said. And you present that as facts and direct quotes from Bioware. Mark all this appropriately or else you are doing it wrong.


everything i put the first post is direct quotes from BW. No personal stuff is there (except the entry)

These are twitter responses,i also put a link from kotaku already....



Sure, one day they'll be re-united, with current FTL tech this will be 5 or 6 years. If Garrus or Tali wont die from starvation. 

Good point. 

OK, now I see thay you edited the original post 25 minutes ago. Fair enough.

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revo76 wrote...

Aweus wrote...


You are right. There is logic behind this. Still, you present your own interpretation of speculations based on what Bioware said. And you present that as facts and direct quotes from Bioware. Mark all this appropriately or else you are doing it wrong.


everything i put the first post is direct quotes from BW. No personal stuff is there (except the entry)

These are twitter responses,i also put a link from kotaku already....

Sure, one day they'll be re-united, with current FTL tech this will be 5 or 6 years. If Garrus or Tali wont die from starvation. 

Good point. 


And dont forget this is Bioware's story, they can even ignore the Garrus/Tali not being able to eat thing and just claim omnitools can convert types of food for extreme situations or claim that they can harvest the supplies left on he ship on their own. Or claim the food resourcess left could last for months/years, or put tali and garrus under cryo-sleep...

Modifié par tobito113, 07 avril 2012 - 11:38 .


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Or even claim the planet has naturaly both types of food, or claim that the planet is already colonized and has both suplies, or simply retcon their nonhability to eat our type of food like they did with the relays destruction in arrival ...

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Did everyone for get about the QEC? That's how you'll get to see your squad again. As longas the Normandy still has power.

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MissNet wrote...

revo76 wrote...
Before PAX:

0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive. 
yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible :) [


In PAX:

Denied. There's no squad unite, only missing cutscenes with Anderson and your smates who were dying during Beam Run

source?

Here are images of the Twitter replies:

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What was denied was the PROMISE an extra "golden" ending. She didnt deny the possibility of squadmates reuniting...

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@Sundance31us, thx.
Actually i want to see the source of this part:
In PAX:
"Denied. There's no squad unite, only missing cutscenes with Anderson and your smates who were dying during Beam Run"
I mean... they aren't suiciders to state this on PAX, are they?

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According to the codex an exploding mass relay will destroy intelligent life in its stellar system. And because we see a chain reaction of exploding mass relays, chances are that all galactic civilizations will be exterminated. There is no way to evacuate billions from planets in time. Where should they go? Nobody is warned in advance. It will come as a complete surprise. So, if BW keeps the ending as it is, they have to use space magic to explain that.

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So people, none of you had quads to go there and ask, sorry, demand a better ending you deserve?

And again it was their fault?

Pretty weak really.

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These guys should be politicians, the way they beat around the bush and dodge questions amazes me.