[quote]otis0310 wrote...
Dragon Age 2, and Mass Effect 3, a double dealing of death from their EA overlords. Could this be the end for Bioware?[/quote]
Because EA exists to destroy profitable IPs.
[quote]As we all know DA2 was heavily modified per EAs instructions.[/quote]
Proof? We all know it was rushed, but you have no basis to suggest EA meddled with it.
[quote]First it was "dumbed down to appeal to a broader fanbas" then it was pushed out the door for an "Easy Paycheck" (both quotes are from me, they are just quoted to add emphasis).[/quote]
You don't use quote marks for emphasis, you use quote marks to quote someone. And you can't quote yourself because your opinion has no basis in fact.
[quote]The combat was nothing more than button mashing, lacking any of the strategic combat of its predecssor. The plot was nonsensical, each chapter played as a seperate story, only at the end did the underlying plot finally emerge and then it pushed to a hasty conclusion. There was also a complete lack of memorable characters, no one can compare a companion in DA2 to either Alistair or Morrigan successfully.[/quote]
This is all subjective, and most of it I would disagree with.
[quote]Finally there is the lack of any real choice at all in the story, combined with an absurd rehashing of the same maps. DA2 is a very poor game, the rapidly diminishing sales told us this, regardless of the review scores.[/quote]
Sales do not conclusively determine the quality of a game. Dragon Age 2 is far from perfect, but it's still a perfectly enjoyable game that actually moves away from the horrific cliche's of DA:O. The story is more nuanced, the characters are far more interesting, and the writing is miles ahead of any other Bioware game.
[quote]Now we have ME3. The game that has gamers livid about two things, Talis face, and the horrible ending which is so bad it makes us forget about Tali's face. The hate for this ending has spread like wildfire and must be effecting sales of the game tremoundously. (Although they probably already made a fortune on pre orders already).[/quote]
The ending isn't fantastic, but most gamers don't care about Tali's face. I understand that you're trapped in the BSN bubble, but most other people place less stock in these issues.
[quote]Once again we are forced to ask ourselves "Did EA play a part" the most obvious answer is yes, they wanted an open ending that would allow for sequels and expansions, ruining Biowares intended ending. The starcchild idea does not seem to come from the team that made ME1 or ME2, which were both good games plotwise. (Although ME2 was marred by the loyalty missions, the general plot made sense). So it could have been forced on them by EA.[/quote]
The three endings are so wildly divergent (in potential impact, if not the way they play out - which, admittedly, is insanely lazy) that it will be next to impossible to make a sequel that takes into account each option. So what are you getting at here? If EA wanted to continue Mass Effect and was able to override Bioware, they would have forced them to keep Shepard alive and extend the plot to a Mass Effect 4. They would have separated the multiplayer from the main game and forced Bioware to make the squad based shooter they were originally planning for multiplayer. They didn't do these things. Stop exaggerating the issue.
[quote]Although we can not know for sure that DA2 was wrecked by EA, I am certain everyone is convinced this was the case regardless of the fact we don't have a "signed confession".[/quote]
Again with the needless quotation marks.
[quote]Again we do not know for certain that EA is behind the ending of ME3, but the ending does not seem to fit what we expect from a Bioware game, which makes us think that maybe they were behind it.[/quote]
See above.
[quote]AND LET US NOT FORGET THAT EA WON THE "GOLDEN POO" AWARD FOR WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA.
Congratulations EA.
Which of course supports the theory that it was EA meddling behind it.[/quote]
How the hell does this support the theory that EA meddled with anything? It just means that the people who dislike EA are probably more likely to read the Consumerist than the people whose houses were illegally foreclosed by the Bank of America.
[quote]Now we have the Extended DLC for ME3 coming out. The indoctrination theory is the only "out" they had.[/quote]
Just stop.
[quote]IF the indoctrination theory is proven false, and the press release seems to confirm it is, then we are left with the sad alternative.[/quote]
They don't say anything either for or against the Indoctrination Theory.
[quote]Neeldes to say, this will only exasperate the problem, regardless of what explanation they give, it will still be bad. As many here have said "if you polish a terd, it is still a terd".[/quote]
Needless to say, this will only
exacerbate the problem
Regardless of
the explanation they give, it will still be bad. As many here have said
, "if you polish a
turd, it is still a
turd."
Well, at least you used the quotation marks properly this time. In any case, you haven't seen what they'll be doing to the ending, so you can't say for certain whether it will be a
turd.
[quote]In this case, if our theory about EA interference is true.[/quote]
Your theory.
[quote]Then A: They have successfully destroyed the Dragon Age franchise, and B: They have now succefully destroyed the Mass Effect franchise. The two biggest franchises Bioware has. (For those who are interested in history their interference ruined the long running, award winning Ultima franchise by Origin, which was in a lot of ways, Bioware's spiritual precessor when it comes to large, epic RPGs. This ultimately led to that company's closure.)[/quote]
And why, exactly, would they want to do that? I'm not going to argue that Bioware hasn't had to cut corners, but that probably has as much to do with the scope they want in their games as it does with any deadline imposed by EA.
[quote]This basically leaves SWTOR as Bioware's only succesful game. Most of that game was undoubtedly dictated by EA.[/quote]
Undoubtedly? I very much doubt it, unless you have some evidence to the contrary.
[quote]The main question is, with a double whammy like this, will Bioware be able to regain its artistic integrity, and by extension, its loyal fanbase. Or has EAs interference ruined Bioware's artistic integrity to the point that we, the fans, are no longer willing to buy their products. In short, is this the end of Bioware?
[/quote]
Now you see, if you'd taken the time to actually think about your argument and construct it properly, I'd probably be paying more attention right now. Unfortunately it mostly consists of supposition and hyperbole. And you don't back up a word of it.
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