Mods and anyone who has access to the BioWare staff,
How about you run this idea past your higher-ups:
Take one day you're not particularly swamped with work, fly some people who are dissatisfied with the ending; people with complaints other than "I WANT MY BLUE BABIES WAH WAH!". You know. The eloquent folks, the ones who have pointed out plotholes, discrepancies, innacuracies and overall just plain wrong decisions, like introducing the organics vs. synthetics conflict in the last part of the third game rather than right after the first one, for instance that have their panties in a bunch (MrBTongue comes to mind), along with some people who think the ending does work and can tell you exactly why they think it works with arguments other than "stfu it's genius and ur just an idiot for not understanding" (I've seen some!), grab some of the Mass Effect devs and maybe some PR people, lock them up in a room and try to reach an agreement? I'm thinking more than six people per side will probably turn the conference room into a war zone, so you might want to keep it under that number? Jus' sayin'.
If you can't lock them up in a room, maybe a private chatroom conference or Skype conference or SOMETHING would probably work just as well.
What I'm getting at is maybe this will make it easier for you to figure out what we're happy with and what we're unhappy with, considering sifting through over 9000 threads of complaints, praise and trolling that keep updating at every milisecond is extremely taxing work.
Or maybe this is just some stupid idea. It probably is; I'll just leave it here, regardless. Make of it what you will.
Here's an idea
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 04:33
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not a bad idea but here's the problem. Their mouths would start to hurt after having to say "artistic integrity" 50,000 times in the course of one interview.
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 04:34
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I thought this was going to be a Patrick meme. I'm sad. ANYWAY, I have no idea how this would work correctly.
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Posté 07 avril 2012 - 04:47
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Come on, man! Be nice. Yeah, I don't see the "artistic integrity" on replacing "system" with "Reapers" on their endings script, but we're trying to broker peace here, man! I love BioWare games, and we have proof they can do MUCH better than this. It'd just be a pity to see them go down like this, so I'm stubbornly refusing to let them shoot themselves in the foot again.Bantz wrote...
not a bad idea but here's the problem. Their mouths would start to hurt after having to say "artistic integrity" 50,000 times in the course of one interview.
I figured that was why we needed the smart guys who can keep it civil. Yanno, people who aren't me.nhcre8tv1 wrote...
I thought this was going to be a Patrick meme. I'm sad. ANYWAY, I have no idea how this would work correctly.
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Posté 09 avril 2012 - 02:43
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This is exactly what Bioware will not do. No, I honestly don't mean to be the party-pooper StillO, but given how they have handled the situation thus far, from a distance that is, actually having to commit to a conferencing with fans, would also carry with it, the intention of actually listening to them and reaching some sort of compromise with the fans....Bioware, I fear, is not willing to do this, solely because of PR and Resources. firstly PR.
If they do have a conference, and they listen to the fans and w/e. they would have to give some sort of feedback to the fans, as to what ideas they liked, and what not. then, that puts them in a position to stay true to what was agreed upon, or what was said in the conference. and if they release a new DLC, which does not include was what agreed upon or such in the conference with the fans, then it'll be the original bad endings, all over again. this would have an even worse effect on them than the original endings.
secondly, Bioware is not willing to use more resources than they have at hand, on a DLC to close a game, or re-close a game, rather. a game which already had a schedule, and a budget, and which would now set back further products, meaning delayed sales, meaning delayed money for EA. If you saw MrBTongue's 3rd video on the relationship between Bioware and EA, you'd have seen that he stated that EA was not making money; like he said, EA is not rly flatlining, but they're not turning over a substantial amount of profit either. (to say the least) they are floating.
I know what I told you StillO - shout out our lungs - and I actually thought about this idea as well, but i just don't see it happening. Bioware clearly is just steamrolling through this debacle. one reason for that is because, they are afraid to admit that they made a mistake. admitting that they made a mistake would hurt their reputation as a seller and developer of games. even if they say, well, okay, we made a mistake, but we're gonna fix it now, and even if they give us everything we want in a huge DLC for free, the question of the original release would still be there: Can Bioware be trusted to make games that won't disappoint people. of course this question has already been raised to an extent by what is currently going on. But by shouldering the heat with their determined view that the endings were intending and were "the best choice" they stave off critics who would look to point at weakness/es, had Bioware admitted to making a mistake before releasing the game. these critics still do exist, but without the added amunition that Bioware publicly stated, "We made a mistake."
Conferencing with fans, may well give them this image as well. at the very least, it would show that they did not listen the first time.
I thought about the idea as well. I like it. But I don't think it will happen, Bioware is just steam-rolling us, on to the next "commander Shepard"
If they do have a conference, and they listen to the fans and w/e. they would have to give some sort of feedback to the fans, as to what ideas they liked, and what not. then, that puts them in a position to stay true to what was agreed upon, or what was said in the conference. and if they release a new DLC, which does not include was what agreed upon or such in the conference with the fans, then it'll be the original bad endings, all over again. this would have an even worse effect on them than the original endings.
secondly, Bioware is not willing to use more resources than they have at hand, on a DLC to close a game, or re-close a game, rather. a game which already had a schedule, and a budget, and which would now set back further products, meaning delayed sales, meaning delayed money for EA. If you saw MrBTongue's 3rd video on the relationship between Bioware and EA, you'd have seen that he stated that EA was not making money; like he said, EA is not rly flatlining, but they're not turning over a substantial amount of profit either. (to say the least) they are floating.
I know what I told you StillO - shout out our lungs - and I actually thought about this idea as well, but i just don't see it happening. Bioware clearly is just steamrolling through this debacle. one reason for that is because, they are afraid to admit that they made a mistake. admitting that they made a mistake would hurt their reputation as a seller and developer of games. even if they say, well, okay, we made a mistake, but we're gonna fix it now, and even if they give us everything we want in a huge DLC for free, the question of the original release would still be there: Can Bioware be trusted to make games that won't disappoint people. of course this question has already been raised to an extent by what is currently going on. But by shouldering the heat with their determined view that the endings were intending and were "the best choice" they stave off critics who would look to point at weakness/es, had Bioware admitted to making a mistake before releasing the game. these critics still do exist, but without the added amunition that Bioware publicly stated, "We made a mistake."
Conferencing with fans, may well give them this image as well. at the very least, it would show that they did not listen the first time.
I thought about the idea as well. I like it. But I don't think it will happen, Bioware is just steam-rolling us, on to the next "commander Shepard"
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Posté 09 avril 2012 - 02:47
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I agree with Kalikilic to a degree, it is really unlikely, but I wouldn't be bad either.
