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[The Almighty Ali]

Served the mandatory year of military training here in Norway, got a CO who seemed to think the Rambo movies were training videos.
Called him a "F....ng Psycho" to his face when he wanted us to do an All-day march, in just our boots, in the middle of a blizzard with temperature way below zero because he claimed it would make us immune to the cold.

He was correct that we got immune to cold, Ended up with several of us getting hypotermia and being rushed back to base.
The next day we had a new CO.

[harvestboygoobus]

I think one important thing that most people miss is that both Shepard and Vega are officers. Officers are often much more relaxed around each other, calling each other by first names, even using nicknames. I'm not an officer myself yet, but I am about to commission as one in a month, and am around several officers all the time.

Now, Loco and Lola are a little extreme, but you definitely get the sense that Vega is someone who doesn't care much about protocol. And considering that a week prior, he was Shepard's personal watchdog, it's not that unrealistic. Odd, but conceivable! I think some rules probably change, too, when you're talking to someone you regularly go into combat with. That's a bond not easily broken, regardless of rank.

[billida]

did my "sevice militaire" un france in the late 80's and never would i have called my officers like that, only their grades.

[billida]

lol i wrote "sevice" instead of "service" which means something very different...

[sky99cap]

harvestboygoobus wrote...

I think one important thing that most people miss is that both Shepard and Vega are officers. Officers are often much more relaxed around each other, calling each other by first names, even using nicknames. I'm not an officer myself yet, but I am about to commission as one in a month, and am around several officers all the time.

Now, Loco and Lola are a little extreme, but you definitely get the sense that Vega is someone who doesn't care much about protocol. And considering that a week prior, he was Shepard's personal watchdog, it's not that unrealistic. Odd, but conceivable! I think some rules probably change, too, when you're talking to someone you regularly go into combat with. That's a bond not easily broken, regardless of rank.

I agree with you, among officers of the same rank, things are more relaxed;  you joke and kid with each other, hit the beach together, work and play together.

But when it comes to your Seniors - let me tell you, after 20 yrs in the Navy as an officer, don't ever try it with them.

As Ferris Bueller said, "You don't want that kind of heat."

[MintyCool]

Patriotism is for fools.

Modifié par MintyCool, 08 avril 2012 - 01:45 .

[Thaa_solon]

Ah yes, in the swedish airforce our CO's blaimed us for all the rumors going around so we had to live up to their expectations and forged a special taskforce for such "Centre of Rumors and Administrative Propaganda" in short C.R.A.P

The mission: since we didn't start any rumors until our CO's said we did, then we started to talk crap about everyone

We had optional callsigs for all of our CO's during radio transmissions of daily C.R.A.P talk

True story


PS. Also I liked the tuchanka mission it was a blast

[Warrior Craess]

RenownedRyan wrote...

Serious question: Everyone here could come up with a better nickname than loco, right?

umm not really, shepard and the things he does fits "loco" pretty freaking well.

"Man you stood up to a reaper with just a laser pointer, Thats Crazy"

"You shot Mordin? Crazy man Crazy"

"You cured the Genophage? letting the Krogan breed uncontrolably? How Crazy is that?"


Etc Etc...

Shepard does alot of crazy stuff.

[sky99cap]

Ok, for Loco ... but Lola??

[Legion is Skynet]

MintyCool wrote...


Patriotism is for fools.

Oh come now. This is a relaxed thread, let's not draw politics into it. Don't make this something it obviously isn't.

[Lyrandori]

In the intro of ME3, right after Shepard looks at the kid playing with the Normandy toy from the Alliance building's room (at the window), Vega enters the room, Shepard turns around and if I'm not mistaken Vega calls Shepard "Commander", then Shepard replies "You know you don't need to call me that James". It implies that they've been friends for some time, probably since a few months, considering that Shepard has been "detained" for six months at the Alliance HQ (or, at least on Earth if not just in the building).

[AnuzaGray]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Served the mandatory year of military training here in Norway, got a CO who seemed to think the Rambo movies were training videos.
Called him a "F....ng Psycho" to his face when he wanted us to do an All-day march, in just our boots, in the middle of a blizzard with temperature way below zero because he claimed it would make us immune to the cold.

He was correct that we got immune to cold, Ended up with several of us getting hypotermia and being rushed back to base.
The next day we had a new CO.

You could get a handful of those everywhere.

A few USMC recruits died a while back because of a hardass DI.

[Kileyan]

It didn't bother me really.

I've read quite a bit about the Navy Seals and other similar units over the years. N7 and Sheps crew seem similar to those. These guys are not weekend warriors who need a regimented chain of command to keep them from losing it during combat. These guys are professional soldiers, and if like the SEALS, they are all officers and more or less consider those standing next to them equals who have earned their right to be there, been vetted.

Everything I have read seems to reflect Vega, Shep and Garrus's friendly ribbing and rivalry. In the non fiction I have read, these teams seem to treat each other like a close knit bunch of football players or something, complete with nicknames, ribbing and pranks.

Sure if Shep was leading a battalion full of new recruits, that would be bad news. But Shep is leading a group of people with skills that compliment his, and who are his equals in their field, or at least as equal as you can be when standing next to a video game hero.

Now of course you wouldn't rib, prank or call a pencil pusher CO pet names, but a guy that fights next to you is a little different.

[xenu101]

If they made a video game about what really happens in say: the infantry, no one would play it because it would be too random and mostly boring.

Like walking or driving around in a humvee waiting to get blown up by an IED... not very fun from my own experience.

Or having random bullets come flying at you and your buddies... still not much fun... shooting back, yes; getting shot at, no.

But if you're friends with the LT and NCOs in your platoon, ya you can get away with calling them nicknames. Sometimes.

Modifié par xenu101, 08 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[xenu101]

TheSchwarz wrote...

xenu101 wrote...

Uh, this game is nothing like how the military works... so what is the point of this thread?

If they made a video game about what really happens in say the infantry, no one would play it because it would be too random and mostly boring.

Like walking or driving around in a humvee waiting to get blown up by an IED... not very fun from my own experience.

Or having random bullets come flying at you and your buddies... still not much fun... shooting back, yes; getting shot at, no.

But if you're friends with the LT and NCOs in your platoon, ya you can get away with calling them nicknames.

Or waiting in lines.......police calls......etc

True. And just generally having your hopes and dreams crushed on a daily basis... sigh. As soon as my time was up, I was gone, it was the happiest day of my life. I missed my friends though, but I sure as hell didn't miss the Army or Fort Drum.

Modifié par xenu101, 08 avril 2012 - 02:56 .

[delldo]

TheSchwarz wrote...

xenu101 wrote...

Uh, this game is nothing like how the military works... so what is the point of this thread?

If they made a video game about what really happens in say the infantry, no one would play it because it would be too random and mostly boring.

Like walking or driving around in a humvee waiting to get blown up by an IED... not very fun from my own experience.

Or having random bullets come flying at you and your buddies... still not much fun... shooting back, yes; getting shot at, no.

But if you're friends with the LT and NCOs in your platoon, ya you can get away with calling them nicknames.

Or waiting in lines.......police calls......etc

Oh god the lines... Hurry up and wait... Range qualifying... PMCS'ing... Yea it can be very lame and boring.

Modifié par delldo, 08 avril 2012 - 02:57 .

[tractrpl]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Served the mandatory year of military training here in Norway, got a CO who seemed to think the Rambo movies were training videos.
Called him a "F....ng Psycho" to his face when he wanted us to do an All-day march, in just our boots, in the middle of a blizzard with temperature way below zero because he claimed it would make us immune to the cold.

He was correct that we got immune to cold, Ended up with several of us getting hypotermia and being rushed back to base.
The next day we had a new CO.

He thought you might see Valhalla! 

[Tanis1983]

MintyCool wrote...


Patriotism is for fools.

Spoken like someone who's never done anything important with their life. Bravo.

[Tanis1983]

delldo wrote...

TheSchwarz wrote...

xenu101 wrote...

Uh, this game is nothing like how the military works... so what is the point of this thread?

If they made a video game about what really happens in say the infantry, no one would play it because it would be too random and mostly boring.

Like walking or driving around in a humvee waiting to get blown up by an IED... not very fun from my own experience.

Or having random bullets come flying at you and your buddies... still not much fun... shooting back, yes; getting shot at, no.

But if you're friends with the LT and NCOs in your platoon, ya you can get away with calling them nicknames.

Or waiting in lines.......police calls......etc

Oh god the lines... Hurry up and wait... Range qualifying... PMCS'ing... Yea it can be very lame and boring.

ETS'ing isn't any better. Couple that with being stop-lossed for nearly a year ... man was i glad to be done.

[Lady Niltiak]

My Commander was Ma'am. My First Sergeant (also female) was First Sergeant. That is what we called them. They had nicknames for us though.... of course most are blocked by the BSN rules.

[Davnort]

Mandalore313 wrote...

No.

But then again I'm the equivalent of a turian regarding these things (stick up my ass etc)

im like jacob.
minus the cheating, black, prize stuff.

[Nyx2k]

I did some time as a Medic in the German Bundeswehr. Was kinda fun most of the time. At first we kept to ranks, but after some time everyone was just called by nicknames. Even our CO had one. He preferred it instead of "Ober-Leutnant". But to others, it was a strict ranks and names policy. But I guess our group was special somehow. I never heard anyone else beeing called by a nickname.

I wouldnt mind if my unit would call me something. If you have a good team which understands itsself blindly and is more a family than a squad, I dont see a problem.

About that Loco/Lola thing Vega has going on, he explained somewhere in the game why he called Femshep Lola. Something about his sister/friend which was named Lola and didn´t take a beating from anyone, just like Shep does.

[Joel2211]

locsphere wrote...

I was in the service, Served OEF, Spent a lot of time off base. There are nicknames among the Enlisted. My nickname was Shaft, along with bags, and teeth, were a few of my friends. Usually among the lower enlisted. We would not call any Officer by a nickname, because you just didn't do it. Don't know why, but you didn't.

In the Squadron we too had our nicknames, mines was Roach because my last name is Arocho. That was a name that our pilots and WSOs would call me by when I used to launch and recover them, even the CO and XO but you wouldnt catch me calling them anything else but sir or skipper for the CO lol.