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[iorveth1271]

Tanis1983 wrote...

MintyCool wrote...


Patriotism is for fools.

Spoken like someone who's never done anything important with their life. Bravo.

Or like someone who either doesn't like his country for their own reasons or like someone who doesn't like the fact we have countries in general. You know, people who see human beings as human beings and do not divide them in Americans, Canadians, French and Italians or whatever.

Generalizations and prejudices are great...

[Joel2211]

RHINOK 9 wrote...

Marine Corps 2007-2011. A lot of things in this game bug the shiv out of me.
The fact that cerberus troops(indoctrinated civilians) hold their smgs properly and shepard doesn't. The saluting alternating from the right hand to the left hand. YOU NEVER SALUTE WITH YOUR LEFT. This makes me want to ffffffffffffuuuuuuuu. Femshep also salutes with her thumb tucked in her palm, another no-no. Combat rolls? *tactical facepalm*

I'll have to play through again to nitpick more but, yeah more stuff irks you after you've served.....

lol I noticed many would salute without covers, and the guy walking around the Normandy that salutes you every time while indoors...yeah not real lol. Game is great but as a memeber of the military you tend to always nitpick games when it involves the military lol. It is kind of fun at times. 

[finalcabbage]

Former U.S. Air Force here. There is absolutely nothing unusual about Vega giving, or trying to give, Shepard a nickname. You have the option of shutting him down and keeping it formal or letting him keep calling you loco. Real life military is exactly like that. All service members get to know their superiors and boundaries are established for behavior. Some officers and NCOs do not truck with informality to the point of making you wish you were never born if you slip up. Others will tell you to call them by their first name. It depends on the person.

[Keltikone]

Retired from naval service 2 years ago, after 16 fun filled years, Despite serving as a medical officer and ultimately as acting Cmmdr, I think I usually referred to my Co's as "Sir". In fairness, most of the med staff that worked for me called me "ma'am" except in private.
It probably depends on the service and nationality of the people involved, as I noticed the SBS and to a slightly lesser extent, marines I've met were far less formal.

[Joel2211]

finalcabbage wrote...

Former U.S. Air Force here. There is absolutely nothing unusual about Vega giving, or trying to give, Shepard a nickname. You have the option of shutting him down and keeping it formal or letting him keep calling you loco. Real life military is exactly like that. All service members get to know their superiors and boundaries are established for behavior. Some officers and NCOs do not truck with informality to the point of making you wish you were never born if you slip up. Others will tell you to call them by their first name. It depends on the person.

Yeeeaahh I maybe see that happening in the Air Force but I know for a fact that doesnt fly in the NAVY with COs, I never in my going on 8 years in the NAVY have heard one of my COs or others introduce themselves and say "call me Jim (or whatever) lol" that must be an Air Force thing. Junior officers are usually more chill than LT Commanders and up in my experience but still not on first name bases but our pilots and WSOs have call signs so you can call them those. 

[Pairikas]

Swiss Army. And no, I never call a guy above me "Loko", but get a bit "out of Order" in Talking with them, and how I Call them. Not in the First Month, but after a while it gets more off the Informality.

But to be honest, we were the most Time not really serious Solders. Swiss Army Communication Company, we just hang around and don't really have done serious thing ^^

[Iwillbeback]

I don't care about nicknames but Loco and Lola sound crap much like the ending, they don't fit and they make no sense.

[finalcabbage]

Joel2211 wrote...

finalcabbage wrote...

Former U.S. Air Force here. There is absolutely nothing unusual about Vega giving, or trying to give, Shepard a nickname. You have the option of shutting him down and keeping it formal or letting him keep calling you loco. Real life military is exactly like that. All service members get to know their superiors and boundaries are established for behavior. Some officers and NCOs do not truck with informality to the point of making you wish you were never born if you slip up. Others will tell you to call them by their first name. It depends on the person.

Yeeeaahh I maybe see that happening in the Air Force but I know for a fact that doesnt fly in the NAVY with COs, I never in my going on 8 years in the NAVY have heard one of my COs or others introduce themselves and say "call me Jim (or whatever) lol" that must be an Air Force thing. Junior officers are usually more chill than LT Commanders and up in my experience but still not on first name bases but our pilots and WSOs have call signs so you can call them those. 

Air Force is a bit special.  Speaking of which, special forces have a mentality all their own.  Isn't Vega special forces too?  That would also explain his behavior.

[spiriticon]

Full Lieutenant in infantry here. And no, not in usual practice. But if I were going on a suicide mission with my superior, I doubt we'd give a crap what we call each other.

[Laurencio]

sky99cap wrote...

Would you have called your CO "Loco" or "Lola"? 

To their face?


added:
Are there better nicknames for Shepard?

Shepard does have the oppertunity to react in a military like fashion by slamming him for it. No push ups, running laps or washing the latrines though... 

[Tsuker]

Was in Israeli army, called my CO by his last name. Also its like that in most companies here, and the CO is almoest never reffred to as "Sir" or anything of simmiler meaning.

And from reading some of the replies your army's sound alot more formal

[Vhalkyrie]

Not when on duty and in uniform. But since Vega was hanging down in the engine room out of uniform, I treated it like off duty casual and let it hang. Just like when having a drink with the marines at Purgatory.

[Joel2211]

finalcabbage wrote...

Joel2211 wrote...

finalcabbage wrote...

Former U.S. Air Force here. There is absolutely nothing unusual about Vega giving, or trying to give, Shepard a nickname. You have the option of shutting him down and keeping it formal or letting him keep calling you loco. Real life military is exactly like that. All service members get to know their superiors and boundaries are established for behavior. Some officers and NCOs do not truck with informality to the point of making you wish you were never born if you slip up. Others will tell you to call them by their first name. It depends on the person.

Yeeeaahh I maybe see that happening in the Air Force but I know for a fact that doesnt fly in the NAVY with COs, I never in my going on 8 years in the NAVY have heard one of my COs or others introduce themselves and say "call me Jim (or whatever) lol" that must be an Air Force thing. Junior officers are usually more chill than LT Commanders and up in my experience but still not on first name bases but our pilots and WSOs have call signs so you can call them those. 

Air Force is a bit special.  Speaking of which, special forces have a mentality all their own.  Isn't Vega special forces too?  That would also explain his behavior.

lol that they are, yeah he was asked to be a part of the N7 program sometime in the game and talks to shepard about it. Its a video game so I know they wont get that detailed with everything and its supposed to be the players choice anyway as far as letting them talk to shepard with or without military bearing, 

[colateral]

I try to avoid talking to my CO at most costs, I call my platoon sergeant Drill and thats about as chummy as I'll dare get.

[finalcabbage]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Hell, by the 5th week of boot camp I was calling the Staff Sergeant by a nickname I came up with. His name is Mirabeau, pronounced meer-uh-bow, but everyone, including other instructors and superior officers always pronounced it mare-uh-boo. I eventually started calling him Malibu and because we were cool he let me. No one else was allowed to though.

Wait a minute... You gave a Drill Sergeant a nickname and he didn't turn you into a fine paste?  Was this bizarro boot camp?

[KelaSaar]

At least in the US Air Force, no one I know goes by their actual name, they all go by call signs. I mean my dad is a Lt. Colonel, and everyone calls him "Cutter." Plus, I think there's a slightly different mentality with special forces, which is what Shepard would be. I've had the opportunity to meet a couple Navy SEALs, and they've all been super chill guys.

[Dodgeman]

When it got formal, i called my commanding officers by rank and surname, otherwise it was just by rank.

-Army 

Modifié par Dodgeman, 09 avril 2012 - 06:15 .

[Thanagherion00]

Oh god, not only no, but hell no... I payed hard for a wise ass comment, so learned my lesson there!

[PhoenixDove1]

Joel2211 wrote...

RHINOK 9 wrote...

Marine Corps 2007-2011. A lot of things in this game bug the shiv out of me.
The fact that cerberus troops(indoctrinated civilians) hold their smgs properly and shepard doesn't. The saluting alternating from the right hand to the left hand. YOU NEVER SALUTE WITH YOUR LEFT. This makes me want to ffffffffffffuuuuuuuu. Femshep also salutes with her thumb tucked in her palm, another no-no. Combat rolls? *tactical facepalm*

I'll have to play through again to nitpick more but, yeah more stuff irks you after you've served.....

lol I noticed many would salute without covers, and the guy walking around the Normandy that salutes you every time while indoors...yeah not real lol. Game is great but as a memeber of the military you tend to always nitpick games when it involves the military lol. It is kind of fun at times. 

Same here.  One thing that drives me crazy is whenever someone would salute, like Shepard to the higher ranking officer, Shep would never wait for the higher ranking officer to drop the salute, she'd just salute and drop it, sometimes before the other person even saluted.  Must be a special rule and when you use your left hand

[HantaVirus34a]

If one of my NCO's gave me a nickname and i didnt know about it. i have a nice chat.

If the NCO used the nickname in a public setting, it be his ass later that night.

If NCO used a nickname in a private setting... prob would not care.

BTW same would applied to a CO as well.

Nicknames always happens, its how you use them and when.

[Marta Rio II]

sky99cap wrote...

Would you have called your CO "Loco" or "Lola"? 

To their face?


added:
Are there better nicknames for Shepard?

I'm not, nor have I ever been, in the military.  But I am 100% grateful tha we got to tell James to knock it off with the whole Lola thing.

Mainly because of that Kinks song....

[gudman]

Russian military, armored division, stock staff sgt. By rank when it was formal approach, otherwise by name-middle name.

I highly doubt that anywhere in the military it's okay to call a commanding officer by nickname. Maybe in spec ops, I guess.

Modifié par gudman, 09 avril 2012 - 06:24 .

[Vhalkyrie]

KelaSaar wrote...

At least in the US Air Force, no one I know goes by their actual name, they all go by call signs. I mean my dad is a Lt. Colonel, and everyone calls him "Cutter." Plus, I think there's a slightly different mentality with special forces, which is what Shepard would be. I've had the opportunity to meet a couple Navy SEALs, and they've all been super chill guys.

Maybe it is an Air Force thing.  My dad and his buddies all called each other by nicknames or last names.  No idea if they did while in uniform, but they certainly did off duty.  I didn't even know one of my dad's friend's first name until I was in high school - lol.

Everyone called my dad "Skipper".  Never heard anyone say otherwise.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 09 avril 2012 - 06:32 .

[Legendaryred]

I'm pretty sure Lola comes from his cousin, Vega says Shepard reminds him of. his cousin lola.