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[warlock22]

Creepter wrote...

I like to imagine that the Geth were willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
Is it an excuse? No. But I don't believe that Shepard deserve death just for choosing that option.

Yes there is no reason for Sheperd to die because of that. Yes it was a hard choice to make but that happens in war. Casey Husdon said that if Sheperd didnt die it would be a insalt to all the hard choices he/she made along the way, and I dont get that at all! What they did was a insalt! Not letting Sheperd see what he/she and the galaxy accomplished was just aful. Let Sheperd live and let the mass relays stay intacted, so that what you did matterd and was worth it. Not a stab in the back and screwing over the entire galaxy into a very slow death.

[Iakus]

Bill Casey wrote...

So genocide is actually the least ****ty option the game gives you...
And it turns out Shepard and EDI at least are fine in the Destroy ending, so the Bratalyst is a liar...

Odd because in my destroy ending, EDI was nowhere to be seen, though Shepard did take a breath

[RollaWarden]

The argument that "war is full of hard choices" is accurate but overly simplistic. Yes--of course war is full of hard choices. But several fine posters on this forum have reasonably explained that the "hard choice" at the Crucible is a false choice--that's its singular difficulty. It's somewhere to the deep, roving right field of stupifying that game developers/writers who had for seven-plus years painstakingly crafted the organic vs. synthetic primary (though by no means only) theme of ME, also allowed an ending to devolve into three false choices, bereft of the explanations, debate, arguments, and dialogue choices we had been given with EVERY OTHER major decision.

And this choice was supposed, I can only guess, to shoehorn the player into the biggest one of them all.  Doing this to your players is simply insulting.

This choice smacked of corporate micromanagement, 11th-hour "backs against the deadline" rushing, and cynical "let's keep 'em drooling for the next game in the series" plot-merchandizing. Each choice, in its own way, grossly violated thematic canons of the trilogy. Many of us have been so vocal, and the ending criticism so widespread, because writing this good with an ending this bad is almost unprecedented.

Yes, there are other great games. Yes, there are other bad endings. But to construct such an unholy golem of "one of the greatest game series" and "one of the worst-written endings imaginable," you get, well...what we've witnessed and have been part of this last month or so.

In sum, the red choice is as indefensible thematically as are the other two choices.

Modifié par RollaWarden, 11 avril 2012 - 09:34 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Better Red than dead?

[shodiswe]

Shallyah wrote...

M0keys wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

M0keys wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

A race exterminated so that every other race in existence can be free. I'd call that a fair sacrifice.

What if the Starchild said the red ending would genocide mankind instead? Is that still okay?

Yes. The nature of the race was never the point here- it's a case of saving as many lives as possible.

Synthesis violates every single living being in the galaxy. Control operates under the assumption Shepard is qualified to rule over a race of omnipotent space-demons. As far as I'm concerned, the only way to solve the Reaper question is to remove them entirely- they're far too dangerous to remain in existence. If that means exterminating a race to do so, be they Geth, human or whatever, then so be it.

But then you're agreeing with the Reapers, that annihilating intelligent life to save the rest is actually the way to go. It's just on a slightly smaller scale.

Stupidest point I've seen in a long time.

Then you're agreeing that killing Bin Laden to save millions of people is agreeing with the Reapers too, just on slightly smaller scale. /facepalm

This last statement didn't make any sense to me... No idea what you're trying to say or how it's related.. Are you comparing the geth to Bin Laden? I realy don't get it. Or are you saying Shepard or the catalyst is becomming bin Laden? None of it seems to fit. Did someonr blow up a skyscraper in ME3 while I wasn't watching? that was packed with millions of people?

Modifié par shodiswe, 11 avril 2012 - 09:36 .

[M0keys]

ftl bump

ftl = faster than lettuce

[MongoNYC]

M0keys wrote...

Just wondering how Bioware thinks the player avatar commiting total genocide of an entire race of sentient, friendly beings is supposed to give us, as they said at PAX, satisfaction?

Who do they think their player base is? Genocide isn't cool

Dude, you're trying to make sense of a senseless creation.  There's no answers for you there.

[M0keys]

nothing wrong with asking though :

[Zix13]

Short version: Shep gets rewarded for picking the least idiotic of the the options. However, we don't know what actually happened in destroy.. I mean starbaby said that Shep would die, but that didn't happen.