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[nicethugbert]

Krogans are portrayed as melee monsters.  But, melee at any difficulty other than Bronze is suicide because health and shields melt in the face of bullets and the controls are wacky.  Cover is the only reliable defense in this game.  But you can't melee from cover except to do a grab.  The melee button dosn't even work if you are in cover and they are right in front of you.  Right. In. Front. Of. You.  And you can't melee them without first breaking out of cover.  Really?  This somehow makes sense????  Breaking out of cover leaves you facing in who knows what direction and with your actions delayed.  Aiming in melee is awful because the movement and mouse controls are entirely wacky.  Krogans can't roll so they get shot by everything within sight.

Um, if this is not broken, I don't know what is.  Oh, but it gets worse.

All Krogans have a shield.  If you have it on, it gives you some DR.   But you will still get shreaded before you can melee a second mook.  It slows down your power recharge.  And your powers were lame enough already.  The shield evolutions make you trade off offense for defense but they all fall short anyway.

If you discharge the shield to use it's supposed benefit then you are now even more defenseless while everything in sight shoots at you and the benefit is lame anyway.

None of the Krogan's powers have synergy.  You can carry heavier weapons but so what?  Your powers are lame and the shield makes it worse.

The Krogans do not add up to anything that works.  They are a mess.  And, their fat humps take up half the screen so you don't know where anything is!

Krogans need to have better aim and movement in melee, more defense, and a zoomed out camera.

Look at what makes the Vanguard work:  short cool down on charge, charge renews shields, nova knocks back enemies, you can roll.  Defense and offense work together.  You don't trade off defense for offense, especially when surrounded.

[Tangster]

Dear nicethugbert,

Krogan Vanguard.

Thanks for your feedback.
-Bioware.

[Drummernate]

Dear QQ posts that I see too many of.

Stop happening!!!

-Thanks

[SinerAthin]

The problem with Krogan is that they were made to be tanks.

... except that they're not tanks past Bronze.

Their health/shields don't scale with difficulty, rendering their role obsolete.
They are very easily staggered, in which case their extra shield and HP doesn't matter at all.
They are insta-killed just as easily as a Salarian, rendering them just as weak in melee.

I am fine with krogans not being able to roll, but at least give them something to compensate for that.

There's a reason why they're so very rarely seen on gold!

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Play Krogan Sentinel with damage reduction maxed in tech armor, equip the Geth Shotgun and the Vindicator or Mattock or Phalanx. Max rage's damage reduction too.

Now you have a gun platform with insane HP and 40 pct dmg reduction who goes to around 70 pct dmg reduction if he kills things in melee.

This works extraordinarily well for me on Gold. Though if Krogan need any kind of buff, it's vs Geth so every damn thing doesn't stagger them.

[GodlessPaladin]

Tangster wrote...

Dear nicethugbert,

Krogan Vanguard.

Thanks for your feedback.
-Bioware.

Here's hoping that the Krogan Vanguard is a better class than the other two krogans...

[Fake-XM]

Many people do just fine with Krogan Melee Sentinels on Silver. Sure, it's not Gold, but many things don't work for everyone on Gold.

Modifié par Fake-XM, 08 avril 2012 - 12:15 .

[Niran]

it annoys more getting shot by rockets , snipers , turrets , guardians , slashed by phantoms several times until 1/2 half HP and surviving them all just to get beaten by a stupid stormtroop at the end because they do rapid fire and not a single high damage hit which you are unable to die of in one piece , meaning as long as you have atlast more than 1/2 HP you can survive virtually ANY heavy attack , may it be Phantom swordslash , Atlas Rocket ,Geth Prime Plasma shot , Sniper Headshot ... it simply doesnt matter , you always survive , but get hit one stupid single time after and you are dead , and whats that crapy thing hitting you afterwards? right....a ****y trooper you would nearly instant deathcharge even on gold...

Modifié par Niran, 08 avril 2012 - 12:16 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Krogan are fine on silver too except against the geth maybe.

It's gold that's the problem. I just hope the battlemaster is>the other two Krogan.

[cronshaw]

 Krogans don't suck either

Modifié par modok8, 08 avril 2012 - 12:20 .

[Makatak]

Tangster wrote...

Dear nicethugbert,

Krogan Vanguard.

Thanks for your feedback.
-Bioware.

So now only will they be non-taking classes past Bronze, they'll bug out when they're not hosting the match and render themselves entirely useless.

Thanks, Bioware.

[Tangster]

Makatak wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Dear nicethugbert,

Krogan Vanguard.

Thanks for your feedback.
-Bioware.

So now only will they be non-taking classes past Bronze, they'll bug out when they're not hosting the match and render themselves entirely useless.

Thanks, Bioware.

Krogans are fine as is.
http://social.biowar.../index/11013649 

[vasht]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Krogan are fine on silver too except against the geth maybe.

It's gold that's the problem. I just hope the battlemaster is>the other two Krogan.

silver is always hit or miss. you really gotta be on the ball to survive as a melee tank.

imo its one of the most challenging classes to play on silver (would not reccomend for gold.) but when it does work the rewards are staggering. go full melee, shotty with blade.... you one hit own most things not minibosses.

Centurions
Marauder Shields
Nemisis
phantoms
hunters
RT troopers
engineers

you get on a flank of a miniboss and you can do some major hurt too. shotgun blast, carnage, then start pounding away. if you grab its attention your teammates will be happy too.

the worst part is if you go to fast and or too wild you are gonna get pwnt. you miss a heavy melee and you are in the middle of some hurt and might as well be staggered. you get in this situation too often you are just gonna annoy your teammates that have to keep reving you.

i think the class works best on reapers. but you can do well with geth or cerberus.

Modifié par vasht, 08 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

vasht wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Krogan are fine on silver too except against the geth maybe.

It's gold that's the problem. I just hope the battlemaster is>the other two Krogan.

silver is always hit or miss. you really gotta be on the ball to survive as a melee tank.

imo its one of the most challenging classes to play on silver (would not reccomend for gold.) but when it does work the rewards are staggering. go full melee, shotty with blade.... you one hit own most things not minibosses.

Centurions
Marauder Shields
Nemisis
phantoms
hunters
RT troopers

you get on a flank of a miniboss and you can do some major hurt too. shotgun blast, carnage, then start pounding away. if you grab its attention your teammates will be happy too.

the worst part is if you go to fast and or too wild you are gonna get pwnt. you miss a heavy melee and you are in the middle of some hurt and might as well be staggered. you get in this situation too often you are just gonna annoy your teammates that have to keep reving you.

i think the class works best on reapers. but you can do well with geth or cerberus.

Tech armor detonation helps a lot.
If you miss simply detonate it and run away works most of the time. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Tangster wrote...

Makatak wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Dear nicethugbert,

Krogan Vanguard.

Thanks for your feedback.
-Bioware.

So now only will they be non-taking classes past Bronze, they'll bug out when they're not hosting the match and render themselves entirely useless.

Thanks, Bioware.

Krogans are fine as is.
http://social.biowar.../index/11013649 

Please stop using this as evidence i'm pretty sure i've said this before to you but the Author of that video said something along the lines of "any class combination would have been easier" 
Krogan can complete gold but are under par when compared to just about every other class when compared on that difficulty. 

[Elecbender]

I suggest a Falcon with a melee Krogan build. Its guaranteed stagger is a godsend.

[Tangster]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
Please stop using this as evidence i'm pretty sure i've said this before to you but the Author of that video said something along the lines of "any class combination would have been easier" 
Krogan can complete gold but are under par when compared to just about every other class when compared on that difficulty. 

Since that's the first time I've mentioned that krogan run in any thread...I don't think you were talking to me that time.

[Star fury]

Krogans don't suck as Mysterious Stranger 0.0 mentioned, but they definitely need a boost. You have to be more skilled to play krogan on gold, than i.e. SI or AA. You can beat gold with two lvl 1 krogans as my buddies did. But most of the players can't.
Immunity from ME1 and regeneration spring to mind.

[Choc]

Rage should be activated from weapon kills as well. >

[lolpunch]

Host the game.

Bring a Falcon with barrel + magazine and an armor piercing backup weapon.

Spec for maximum melee damage.

Do whatever you want on Silver, long as you don't try to rush Primes head on.

YMMV on non-PC platforms, due to not being able to 180 in 0.5 seconds.

[RiflemanUK]

Dear BSN, It's Krogan, not Krogans.

[Clive Howlitzer]

I have a Krogan Sentinel and he was such an absolute monster on bronze, once I moved up to silver, I found he was still a beast. I had to be a lot more careful and I had a hard time with Geth but my very high damage resistence really helped my team survive. Since I could take a lot of hits to res people, and you could still lay out insane melee damage.
On Gold though, forget about it. I feel pretty useless on gold, at least trying to melee. I basically have to change my entire playstyle because trying to melee becomes impossible. It is crazy how fast your high defenses go down on gold.

[vasht]

RiflemanUK wrote...

Dear BSN, It's Krogan, not Krogans.

according to my spellchecker, its Brogan.

[sheltomlee]

I wish people who didn't play Krogans would stop commenting on them. Either make them able to move or make them tuffer.

I melee frequently in all difficulties but some people are right you gotta pick your melee target carefully and time it right, usually after a stun. There are some situations that are just unfair to the Krogan class though.